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why do u guys even bother with him :roll:
and Aasiya speaking of confidence-in the forum I act as if I have the most confidence
but I'm the one who freezes when my sister leaves the room sumtimes and I have 20 teenage girls all staring back at me
and presentations in Uni are just hell
the point still stands, it aint banned
What you put in the hearts of others; is what goes back into your own heart…
Aasiyah, how did the presentation go then?
thanx for asking, i was just going to post here about it... i was gonna say:
YIPPEE!! its over and it went really well Alhamdulillah!
and i wanted to thank all of u for ur advice, help and encouragement, i honestly dunno how i wudv been able to do it without u lot. coz usually i wudv discussed things with my parents but they werent at home, my mom luckily got back from abroad 2 hours before my presentation was due so she came with me.
she said i was really good!! i was quite surprised with myself aswell actually - even tho on the inside i was shaking with nervousness i managed to pull it off alhumdulillah and the Chair told me afterwards that i appeared really confident! so hayder u were right - i ges once i started, i was ok. (at the beginning i cudv sworn my voice was shaking a little but mom sed it wasnt, mayb she was just being nice!) :oops:
i didnt hav time to prepare notes, in hindsight i think tht was probably a good thing coz i wudv looked down at my notes too much then and less at the audience - this way i literally did things off the top of my head, and alhumdulillah i had a lot to say as this is a common (and vast) topic.
they had loads of Qs, which was great, and according to mom i answered them fairly well... i will post a lil' later bout some of the Qs asked, in a rush at the mo.
but MAJOR ACHIEVEMENT for me was that i actually got my audience to laugh!!
i managed to b fairly informal.
once again, thanx to all of u for ur help and support.
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What did they ask and what did you tell them?
good for u girl
more details pls
thanx lilsis, wot kinda details do u wanna no...
with regards to the Qs, as i sed they were loads! so practicly every common question was asked e.g. polygamy, inheritance, hijab, socialising without alcohol, britishness, teenage pregnancies, mixed-faith marriages etc etc. but as they were from the fire service/NHS etc, there were some interesting questions based on their jobs.
for e.g. i was asked about the Islamic stance on Disability. this lady was working in the NHS with disabled children and she sed many of the kids came from asian Muslim families and basically the mother is taking care of the chid 24/7 and would love some help offered by the NHS, but the husbands say no, that it's enough for the mother to take care of the child. this lady sed that the children were missing out on activities and 'playtime' which could stretch their abilities, something to that effect.
this caught me off guard a little as i have never been asked it before... i sed that sadly there is a cultural taboo associated to disability in the asian subcontinent and that many ppl are in denial of their child's disability, this is y they are often unwilling to accept help. i sed there is no premise for this attitude in Islam, that Muslims have a duty to care for and help such children. i sed it is understandable that some parents may be in denial, but the NHS needs to understand this and help them overcome it, i suggested that she should get in touch with an Imam and get more info from him and see if he can talk to these parents about the Islamic stance on disability, as they are likely to listen to the Imam.
another funny (edit: 'funny' was the wrong word to use here, i meant 'unusual') question i got was about polygamy but it was agen by someone from the NHS which meant the Q was more complex than the average polygamy question.
this man asked 'does a man who have more than one wife have to inform one wife about the other/s. especially considering that there could be a sexual health risk to any of the partners if one is promiscuous and has HIV (we had talked about men marrying non-muslims previously so he was referring to one of the wives being (non-religious) christian for e.g. and wot if she was promiscuous).
it was a pretty complex Qs, had to ask him to repeat it... i sed that in normal cases it is not binding on the husband to tell his each wife about the other but this is common manners and usually Adab reigns in successful relationships. but in the case that there is such a major health risk to any of them, i sed i was not sure but that i'd expect scholars to see this as an exception to the rule and make it binding on him to tell the wives. but i sed above all the husband should speak to a scholar about the situation.
and also went into the strict guidelines behind having more than one wife - that its permissable but in no way recommended and ONLY if the guy thinks he can b completely equal to all.
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Well done Aasiyah!
Sounds like you have the makings of a great public speaker to do so well off the cuff like that - and with confidence!
lol I hope you weren't afraid to admit when you didn't know the answer
Did anyone approach you after the presentation and questioning with more questions?
lol thanx. i think it was my mom's magic at work.
and u know how i am about stuff i dont know - i'd rather go check a million times than give a wrong answer. so yeh, i did start off with 'i'm not completely sure...' when this was the case, and mom sed it was good tht i didnt waffle on these Qs tht i was unsure about - i gave the ansers to the best of my knowledge but sed i wud check and get back to them (passed my email address to everyone).
yes, ppl did come up to me afterwards to further discuss things/ask more Qs etc. some gave me their card as they wanted to keep in touch (for e.g. the lady who worked with disabled children in the NHS and another lady who had asked me about teenage pregnancies).
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Sounded great Aasiyah well done
IMO polygamy is a disgusting practice. Some Muslims claim that polygamy is ONLY acceptable if it is in the best interest of the orphan. B’coz men are the breadwinners and they could provide for the widow & da orphan. In those cases IMO it is acceptable but people just abuse the whole thing.
What you put in the hearts of others; is what goes back into your own heart…
this 'disgusting practice' is something done by the Prophet (s.a.w). we cannot condemn something he (s.a.w) did, nor can we make something halaal haraam.
the way i see it, most men nowadays find it difficult to b just to one wife, let alone four and it is clear in the Quran that one should only have more than one wife if they can b just to them all. so ur right Judda, most men nowadays ignore these strict guidelines and abuse the practice.
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Having a billion wives is disgusting and ridiculous, just coz Muhammad did it does not make it right! I feel really strongly about this perverted practice, its far more trouble then its worth.
What you put in the hearts of others; is what goes back into your own heart…
most of Muhammad (s.a.w)'s wives were older than him - they were former widows with children, and former prisoners of war who accepted Islam. isnt this the very reason u gave for polygamy in ur last post?
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I dunno much about his wives coz I don’t have the time to study them, well actually there’s too many of them.
What you put in the hearts of others; is what goes back into your own heart…
and so this goes back to my first post on this page - u need to study Islam. all of us need to, do u know its a duty of every Muslim to be striving for knowledge from the cradle to the grave. there's no end to how much we can/should know.
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Yes I know. But some of the laws are flat out ridiculous.
What you put in the hearts of others; is what goes back into your own heart…
well u dont know that for sure till uv actually looked into them properly innit.
seriously, go and satisfy ur curiosity and get the answers u want by studying Islamic Studies.
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Nah not my thing.
You appear to know a lot about Islam so answer me this question, its been bugging me for a while…
[49:12][i][b] O you who believe, you shall avoid any suspicion, for even a little bit of suspicion is sinful. You shall not spy on one another[/b], nor shall you backbite one another; this is as abominable as eating the flesh of your dead brother. You certainly abhor this. You shall observe GOD. GOD is Redeemer, Most Merciful.[/i]
But what if u had reasons to be suspicious about that person?
yea and y cant women go on hajj without a mehram?
What you put in the hearts of others; is what goes back into your own heart…
Yeah I second that, you seem a natural at it. Plus you also got the jisp of talking to non muslims, blame everything on culture, it never fail me.
"A true Muslim is thankful to Allah in prosperity, and resigned to His will in adversity."
[url=http//www.guidancemedia.com/videostream.php?id=Burda.mov]Quran[/url]
y do u always quote stuff from submission.org, i thought u sed u dont agree with them?
theyv changed the translation of that verse! :roll:
here's the mainstream translation by Yusuf Ali:
49:12 O ye who believe! Avoid suspicion as much (as possible): for suspicion [b]in some cases [/b]is a sin: And spy not on each other behind their backs. Would any of you like to eat the flesh of his dead brother? Nay, ye would abhor it...But fear Allah. For Allah is Oft-Returning, Most Merciful.
and by Pickthall:
49:12 O ye who believe! Shun [b]much[/b] suspicion; for lo! [b]some suspicion [/b]is a crime. And spy not, neither backbite one another. Would one of you love to eat the flesh of his dead brother? Ye abhor that (so abhor the other)! And keep your duty (to Allah). Lo! Allah is Relenting, Merciful.
here's the arabic transliteration of the part of the ayah ur referring to:
ijtanibu [b]katheeran[/b] min aZanni inna [b]ba'ad[/b] aZanni ithmun
as u know arabic, u wud c the difference between that^ and wot submission.org translated it as.
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if it isnt ur 'thing' then wot makes u come on this website? its natural to b interested in and question one's religion, esp. wen ur born into it. to get the best info its good to hav a teacher who is well-educated and can answer all ur questions.
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asssia i got it from mi bro's disc, i read it and screamed coz they reject ahadith, theres a story behind that but i'll think i'll jus' keep dat 2 my self :twisted:
What you put in the hearts of others; is what goes back into your own heart…
lol i'm not THAT good u guys, i can think of some things i forgot to touch on and stuff. but i am used to chatting to non-muslims bout islam so yeh alhumdulillah most Qs werent tht bad.
ur right, its so easy to blame everything on culture, sometimes i wonder if i'm right in doing so. but u no wot, its not our fault this IS the case.
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if u know ur bro is from an organisation u disagree with, y take stuff from his disk? that doesnt make any sense.
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If the Prophet
approved of something, he was allowed to approve i first.
Judda think before you post.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
he is in america, his m8s comp is buggered up, i is e-mailing da docs 4 him, i is havin a look the docs :twisted:
admin i am entitled 2 my own opinion
What you put in the hearts of others; is what goes back into your own heart…
but if u dont agree with submission and their 'docs' then y help him b one of them, y not discourage him, and agen, y [b]quote[/b] those u disagree with??
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maybe he agrees with dome of what they say or thinks they brought up a question worth consideration
Ever notice people have a preoccupation with titles?
Nobody can be a little of column a and a little of column b anymore
i am basing my posts on wot he sed in a previous thread as well on this one - that they reject ahadith and that he does not agree with them. (wil see if i can find the other thread... or he cud jus make life easier by answering the question...)
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