how long were you waiting for an opportunity too lay it down like that.
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Gentleness and kindness were never a part of anything except that it made it beautiful, and harshness was never a part of anything except that it made it ugly.
Through cheating, stealing, and lying, one may get required results but finally one becomes
how long were you waiting for an opportunity too lay it down like that.
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I was waiting until I got access to a computer
But she does ignore my PM's and I wasnt given access to her email account by the Admin of this forum even though I thought that was his job.
Speaking of "etiquettes alone" why do you consider yourself too good to respond to my PM's?
Lol-since you decided to address this issue in public I’ll reply to you in public.
I do not ignore your PM’s.
I just do not feel comfortable disclosing personal details and views on personal issues to someone I do not know. I have already told you that via PM.
Back to the topic…
Sheikh Abdul Qadir Jillani has said described pious people “as being the perfume of Allah (swt) upon this world, however only the true, sincere believers have noses to smell them. They smell that beautiful perfume; they follow that smell. That perfume creates a yearning in their hearts for their Lord, and as a result the sincere believers increase their pace, efforts and devotions”.
In other words, pious people increase our Iman and Taqwa and inclination to do good…however, only the sincere people are given the ability to recognise, acknowledge and give the respect that is due to such blessed people.
And we can NOT become better Muslims until we attach ourselves with such pious individuals…Adab (good manners), Sabr, tolerance, love of Allah (swt) and His Rasool can only be learnt by sitting in their company. One couldn’t pick up a book and expect it to teach them about the Love of God, how can a book teach one about love? One needs to be in the company of the Lovers of God in order to learn how to be a true Lover.
And good company can really turn ones life around for the better…Before Rumi met Shams Tabriz he was just a scholar who leactured his students about law and theology…but after he met Shams Tabriz he become the lover of God.
After marriage Hadrat Ali (ra) told the Holy Prophet that Hadrat Fatima (ra) had increased Iman/Taqwa and had increased his level of worship.
So…we should always pray that Allah (swt) keeps us in the company of such blessed people.
The Sufi teachings go straight to ones heart, they stir up emotion, bring tears to the eye (or joy depending on what is being studied)....but are VERY, very hard to implement.
The Sufi teachings go straight to ones heart, they stir up emotion, bring tears to the eye (or joy depending on what is being studied)....but are VERY, very hard to implement.
In Robin Hood, Morgan Freeman play a Muslim and says:
"We have a saying...There are no perfect actions, only perfect intentions."
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Gentleness and kindness were never a part of anything except that it made it beautiful, and harshness was never a part of anything except that it made it ugly.
Through cheating, stealing, and lying, one may get required results but finally one becomes
A scholar was delivering a discourse on Sabr (patience) and during his speech a scorpion stung him on his foot 16times, however he didn’t stop his lecture because he didn’t want his actions to contradict his words.
Are our words and actions always the same?
Sometimes…when your elders drive you up the wall, is it easy manifest Sabr and tolerance?
When things don’t seem to be going in your favour…is it easy to manifest patience and accept the decree of God?
Is it easy to be amongst people and work on earth, but to always keep ones hearts with Allah (swt) at all times?
If you find all this a piece of cake…then you must be a bigger Sufi than I thought.
Abu Yazid al Bistami said “Paradise is of no worth to the Lovers”.
Rabia Basri was asked “Who do you not ask God for Paradise” and she replied “the Neighbour before the house”…this is similar to the story of the wife of Pharaoh, Hadrat Aasiyah (ra) who often said “O Lord build for me a house with You in Paradise”.
And regarding true Love…one must love everything that is linked/associated with his/her beloved. It was because of the extreme love and respect that Imam Malik held for the Holy Prophet that he never ever wore shoes in the city of Medina, never rode on an animal and nor did he ever relieve himself in Medina….
Majnu was once seen kissing a dirty, black dog….simple and only because this dog lived in the same street that his Beloved (Layla) lived…
So, in order to manifest true Love to Allah (swt) we must love whom He loves, such as the Holy Prophet and His Awliya’s.
...the fact that this thread was five pages back shows how hard it is to keep ones spiritual side satisfied as well being active in all of dunya work.
It so easy to get caught up in the rat race and neglect the condition of our souls. It is in our nature to always be inclined towards the extreme in everything...its difficult to strike a balence.
The true Sufi's are those who are able to strike a blance....it is possible for one to be a member of a family, a student/worker...one should not discharge all of their ordinary duties, but we should work as in the presence of Allah (swt), and in all matters and at all times retain the sense of Allah's nearness.
In this way our work may be on earth, but our heart would always be with our Lord....but thats easier said then done. :?
Sheikh Abdul Qadir Jillani has said described pious people “as being the perfume of Allah (swt) upon this world, however only the true, sincere believers have noses to smell them. They smell that beautiful perfume; they follow that smell. That perfume creates a yearning in their hearts for their Lord, and as a result the sincere believers increase their pace, efforts and devotions”.
In other words, pious people increase our Iman and Taqwa and inclination to do good…however, only the sincere people are given the ability to recognise, acknowledge and give the respect that is due to such blessed people.
And we can NOT become better Muslims until we attach ourselves with such pious individuals…Adab (good manners), Sabr, tolerance, love of Allah (swt) and His Rasool can only be learnt by sitting in their company. One couldn’t pick up a book and expect it to teach them about the Love of God, how can a book teach one about love? One needs to be in the company of the Lovers of God in order to learn how to be a true Lover.
And good company can really turn ones life around for the better…Before Rumi met Shams Tabriz he was just a scholar who leactured his students about law and theology…but after he met Shams Tabriz he become the lover of God.
After marriage Hadrat Ali (ra) told the Holy Prophet that Hadrat Fatima (ra) had increased Iman/Taqwa and had increased his level of worship.
So…we should always pray that Allah (swt) keeps us in the company of such blessed people.
Wasalaam
ameen i like this post and the last in their truth, it is so hard to keep ones mind focused on Allah whilst interacting with family - life
but yet i find that at the end of days when i am questioned by the Angels i will have to say that i still had a choice and did not act upon it
i t becomes ever more clearer to me that we have clear choices and still i choose to do nothing
what do i wait for inspiration, good company, will power?
Shaykh Humza Yusuf mentioned in one of his lectures that if we look down at those who we may think are misguided Allah (swt) may take away their faults and give them to us….he also mentioned that obedience is a gift from Allah (swt), none of us are good due to our own accord and if He (swt) wishes He (swt) can take this gift away from us.
It is also said that a believer’s heart is between the two fingers of the Almighty…it is up to Him, which way He chooses to turn it…
According to Imam Ghazali the people of knowledge are in more danger of being victims of the superiority complex.
IMO no trait is more hateful and dangerous then arrogance and self righteousness….
Peace of heart comes from a heart free of anxiety. Anxiety is caused by the weight of all that is material.
The weight of possessions, love of family, children, this world etc.
These all weigh the heart down and prevent it from soaring. The way to purify and free it is to remember Allah (swt).
Remembering Allah (swt) internally/secretly by making inward supplications is one of the principle qualities of identifying the true believer. W/salaam
so true a humble person will always seem more happy than a wealthy person. Wealth makes you greedy, iggnorant and arrogant if you cannot handle it and most people cannot.
All you really need is enought to feed your family and have a comfortable life anything else is excess and should be shared with charities.
Giving to charities helps ones heart.
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Islam is the Key to paradise but without practice it won't open the gates.
Imam Ali used to say to Allah (swt) “I do not adore You out of fear of your fire, nor do I yearn for your Paradise. I worship and adore you because You are deserving of adoration and praise”.
Interestingly, according to the Sufi’s Iblis is depicted as the devoted lover whose jealousy forbids him to pay homage to a rival (Adam)….all envy arises from love, for fear lest another becomes the companion of the beloved…
Imam Ali used to say to Allah (swt) “I do not adore You out of fear of your fire, nor do I yearn for your Paradise. I worship and adore you because You are deserving of adoration and praise”.
who was Imam Ali? - not Ali (r.a) i assume...?
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Imam Ali used to say to Allah (swt) “I do not adore You out of fear of your fire, nor do I yearn for your Paradise. I worship and adore you because You are deserving of adoration and praise”.
who was Imam Ali? - not Ali (r.a) i assume...?
MS is refering to Hazrat Ali (ra), he (ra) is referred to as Imam as well.... :?
Imam Ali used to say to Allah (swt) “I do not adore You out of fear of your fire, nor do I yearn for your Paradise. I worship and adore you because You are deserving of adoration and praise”.
who was Imam Ali? - not Ali (r.a) i assume...?
MS is refering to Hazrat Ali (ra), he (ra) is referred to as Imam as well.... :?
oh. don't shi'as give him (r.a.) the title of 'Imam'? MS do you have a reference by any chance?
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As angel and sirus pointed out there are many titles given to well known respectable personalities…Imam being one of them.
I’m not sure what the reference is as I usually just write down profound sayings/hadiths from wherever I find them…the above is most likely to be from a book on Sufism in a chapter arguing why love of Allah (swt) is more praiseworthy then fear of Him…
Yesterday I was in a school which consisted of year 8 kids all permanently excluded from their own school cos of various reasons,
We had an RE lesson in which we were trying to explain the teachings of Buddhism to them… a lot of the teachings of Buddhism are similar to Sufism, such as…
1-the Right View. wisdom and compassion.
2. Right Thought. We are what we think. Clear and kind thoughts build good, strong characters.
3. Right Speech. By speaking kind and helpful words, we are respected and trusted by everyone.
4. Right Conduct. No matter what we say, others know us from the way we behave. Before we criticize others, we should first see what we do ourselves.
5. Right Livelihood. This means choosing a job that does not hurt others. The Buddha said, "Do not earn your living by harming others. Do not seek happiness by making others unhappy."
6. Right Effort. A worthwhile life means doing our best at all times and having good will toward others. This also means not wasting effort on things that harm ourselves and others.
7. Right Mindfulness. This means being aware of our thoughts, words, and deeds.
8. Right Concentration. Focus on one thought or object at a time. By doing this, we can be quiet and attain true peace of mind.
Buddhism is also big on eating/sleeping less and self denial and forgiveness.
Unsurprisingly the lesson did not go down well at all with the excluded kids….
Id like2 recomend a book2u broz n sis Title: the inteligent heart, the pure heart. Author: dr gohar mushtaq. Publishers: ta ha. Its thee best book iv ever read..btw idnt think we shud kp promoting and fighting for the word "sufism" cz it bkums political n diverts ppl away..rather we shud focus n promote its actions that purify the heart..anyway thats just MY OPINION.. May Allah guide us all
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Gossip is the most destructive thing in the universe...
Lady Macbeth was being deep too, when she says all the oceans of pluto would not wash away that spot.
A Saint RA was once by a person to pray that The Lord would cast a Glorious Glance upon him.
The Saint RA asked, "What qualifications do you have that you would be worthy of A Glance from The Lord?"
The person replied "If The Lord would bestow a glance upon me, all qualifications would become manifest in me."
The Saint RA was satisfied by this reply.
Subhan Allah This is our Aqeedah, though we may be impure and weak, The Lord is surely more Merciful and Forgiving than our defects and is the True desire of all creation.
—
Gentleness and kindness were never a part of anything except that it made it beautiful, and harshness was never a part of anything except that it made it ugly.
Through cheating, stealing, and lying, one may get required results but finally one becomes
Gentleness and kindness were never a part of anything except that it made it beautiful, and harshness was never a part of anything except that it made it ugly.
Through cheating, stealing, and lying, one may get required results but finally one becomes
I was waiting until I got access to a computer
But she does ignore my PM's and I wasnt given access to her email account by the Admin of this forum even though I thought that was his job.
Lol-since you decided to address this issue in public I’ll reply to you in public.
I do not ignore your PM’s.
I just do not feel comfortable disclosing personal details and views on personal issues to someone I do not know. I have already told you that via PM.
Back to the topic…
Sheikh Abdul Qadir Jillani has said described pious people “as being the perfume of Allah (swt) upon this world, however only the true, sincere believers have noses to smell them. They smell that beautiful perfume; they follow that smell. That perfume creates a yearning in their hearts for their Lord, and as a result the sincere believers increase their pace, efforts and devotions”.
In other words, pious people increase our Iman and Taqwa and inclination to do good…however, only the sincere people are given the ability to recognise, acknowledge and give the respect that is due to such blessed people.
And we can NOT become better Muslims until we attach ourselves with such pious individuals…Adab (good manners), Sabr, tolerance, love of Allah (swt) and His Rasool
can only be learnt by sitting in their company. One couldn’t pick up a book and expect it to teach them about the Love of God, how can a book teach one about love? One needs to be in the company of the Lovers of God in order to learn how to be a true Lover.
And good company can really turn ones life around for the better…Before Rumi met Shams Tabriz he was just a scholar who leactured his students about law and theology…but after he met Shams Tabriz he become the lover of God.
After marriage Hadrat Ali (ra) told the Holy Prophet
that Hadrat Fatima (ra) had increased Iman/Taqwa and had increased his level of worship.
So…we should always pray that Allah (swt) keeps us in the company of such blessed people.
Wasalaam
The Sufi teachings go straight to ones heart, they stir up emotion, bring tears to the eye (or joy depending on what is being studied)....but are VERY, very hard to implement.
In Robin Hood, Morgan Freeman play a Muslim and says:
"We have a saying...There are no perfect actions, only perfect intentions."
Gentleness and kindness were never a part of anything except that it made it beautiful, and harshness was never a part of anything except that it made it ugly.
Through cheating, stealing, and lying, one may get required results but finally one becomes
Salam
I disagree with both; lady and the tramp.
Mystical teachings are not hard at all.
If they were, they wouldn't be so beautiful.
Also, ofcourse there are perfect actions.
Everything Prophet Muhammad did was perfect.
Morgan Freeman doesn't know what he is talking about.
Omrow
Salaam
A scholar was delivering a discourse on Sabr (patience) and during his speech a scorpion stung him on his foot 16times, however he didn’t stop his lecture because he didn’t want his actions to contradict his words.
Are our words and actions always the same?
Sometimes…when your elders drive you up the wall, is it easy manifest Sabr and tolerance?
When things don’t seem to be going in your favour…is it easy to manifest patience and accept the decree of God?
Is it easy to be amongst people and work on earth, but to always keep ones hearts with Allah (swt) at all times?
If you find all this a piece of cake…then you must be a bigger Sufi than I thought.
Wasalaam
Morgan Freeman is no Sufi. He is just an oppressed black man in America.
Salaam
Abu Yazid al Bistami said “Paradise is of no worth to the Lovers”.
Rabia Basri was asked “Who do you not ask God for Paradise” and she replied “the Neighbour before the house”…this is similar to the story of the wife of Pharaoh, Hadrat Aasiyah (ra) who often said “O Lord build for me a house with You in Paradise”.
And regarding true Love…one must love everything that is linked/associated with his/her beloved. It was because of the extreme love and respect that Imam Malik held for the Holy Prophet
that he never ever wore shoes in the city of Medina, never rode on an animal and nor did he ever relieve himself in Medina….
Majnu was once seen kissing a dirty, black dog….simple and only because this dog lived in the same street that his Beloved (Layla) lived…
So, in order to manifest true Love to Allah (swt) we must love whom He loves, such as the Holy Prophet
and His Awliya’s.
Wasalaam
Salam
How will you appreciate wine if you dont drink.
And how will you feel the pain of distance if you dont touch.
You will not know wine until you get drunk.
And you will never know seperation until you have loved.
Omrow
Have you had your heart broken?
beautiful and so true!
Salaam
...the fact that this thread was five pages back shows how hard it is to keep ones spiritual side satisfied as well being active in all of dunya work.
It so easy to get caught up in the rat race and neglect the condition of our souls. It is in our nature to always be inclined towards the extreme in everything...its difficult to strike a balence.
The true Sufi's are those who are able to strike a blance....it is possible for one to be a member of a family, a student/worker...one should not discharge all of their ordinary duties, but we should work as in the presence of Allah (swt), and in all matters and at all times retain the sense of Allah's nearness.
In this way our work may be on earth, but our heart would always be with our Lord....but thats easier said then done. :?
Wasalaam
ameen i like this post and the last in their truth, it is so hard to keep ones mind focused on Allah whilst interacting with family - life
but yet i find that at the end of days when i am questioned by the Angels i will have to say that i still had a choice and did not act upon it
i t becomes ever more clearer to me that we have clear choices and still i choose to do nothing
what do i wait for inspiration, good company, will power?
Salaam
Shaykh Humza Yusuf mentioned in one of his lectures that if we look down at those who we may think are misguided Allah (swt) may take away their faults and give them to us….he also mentioned that obedience is a gift from Allah (swt), none of us are good due to our own accord and if He (swt) wishes He (swt) can take this gift away from us.
It is also said that a believer’s heart is between the two fingers of the Almighty…it is up to Him, which way He chooses to turn it…
According to Imam Ghazali the people of knowledge are in more danger of being victims of the superiority complex.
IMO no trait is more hateful and dangerous then arrogance and self righteousness….
Wasalaam
so true a humble person will always seem more happy than a wealthy person. Wealth makes you greedy, iggnorant and arrogant if you cannot handle it and most people cannot.
All you really need is enought to feed your family and have a comfortable life anything else is excess and should be shared with charities.
Giving to charities helps ones heart.
Islam is the Key to paradise but without practice it won't open the gates.
Imam Ali used to say to Allah (swt) “I do not adore You out of fear of your fire, nor do I yearn for your Paradise. I worship and adore you because You are deserving of adoration and praise”.
Interestingly, according to the Sufi’s Iblis is depicted as the devoted lover whose jealousy forbids him to pay homage to a rival (Adam)….all envy arises from love, for fear lest another becomes the companion of the beloved…
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MS is refering to Hazrat Ali (ra), he (ra) is referred to as Imam as well.... :?
oh. don't shi'as give him (r.a.) the title of 'Imam'? MS do you have a reference by any chance?
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Generally speaking.....
the words Imam, Shaykh, Mawlana etc are all used interchangeably, and depend on what is the trend at the time
i.e. today 'Shaykh' is the popular term, whereas in the times of Abu Hanifa (ra), Imam was the term to use
The Lover is ever drunk with love;
He is free, he is mad,
He dances with ecstasy and delight.
Caught by our own thoughts,
We worry about every little thing,
But once we get drunk on that love,
Whatever will be, will be.
ɐɥɐɥ
As angel and sirus pointed out there are many titles given to well known respectable personalities…Imam being one of them.
I’m not sure what the reference is as I usually just write down profound sayings/hadiths from wherever I find them…the above is most likely to be from a book on Sufism in a chapter arguing why love of Allah (swt) is more praiseworthy then fear of Him…
Yesterday I was in a school which consisted of year 8 kids all permanently excluded from their own school cos of various reasons,
We had an RE lesson in which we were trying to explain the teachings of Buddhism to them… a lot of the teachings of Buddhism are similar to Sufism, such as…
1-the Right View. wisdom and compassion.
2. Right Thought. We are what we think. Clear and kind thoughts build good, strong characters.
3. Right Speech. By speaking kind and helpful words, we are respected and trusted by everyone.
4. Right Conduct. No matter what we say, others know us from the way we behave. Before we criticize others, we should first see what we do ourselves.
5. Right Livelihood. This means choosing a job that does not hurt others. The Buddha said, "Do not earn your living by harming others. Do not seek happiness by making others unhappy."
6. Right Effort. A worthwhile life means doing our best at all times and having good will toward others. This also means not wasting effort on things that harm ourselves and others.
7. Right Mindfulness. This means being aware of our thoughts, words, and deeds.
8. Right Concentration. Focus on one thought or object at a time. By doing this, we can be quiet and attain true peace of mind.
Buddhism is also big on eating/sleeping less and self denial and forgiveness.
Unsurprisingly the lesson did not go down well at all with the excluded kids….
Id like2 recomend a book2u broz n sis Title: the inteligent heart, the pure heart. Author: dr gohar mushtaq. Publishers: ta ha. Its thee best book iv ever read..btw idnt think we shud kp promoting and fighting for the word "sufism" cz it bkums political n diverts ppl away..rather we shud focus n promote its actions that purify the heart..anyway thats just MY OPINION.. May Allah guide us all
Gossip is the most destructive thing in the universe...
i want to wash my soul until my hands are red.
i am contaminated
i dont wish to make 2 line comments that sound like gibberish but i cant wring out any more words even by way of explanation.
u post reminds me of the shakespeare novel
the one where that lady kept on seeing blood on her hands and kept on washing them
i think it was macbeth
yup it was macbeth
The Lover is ever drunk with love;
He is free, he is mad,
He dances with ecstasy and delight.
Caught by our own thoughts,
We worry about every little thing,
But once we get drunk on that love,
Whatever will be, will be.
ɐɥɐɥ
u 2 are lovely and funny. there i was being all dramatic i needed that to bring me back to normal
macbeth
No. You were being deep. Thank you.
I agree.
Lady Macbeth was being deep too, when she says all the oceans of pluto would not wash away that spot.
A Saint RA was once by a person to pray that The Lord would cast a Glorious Glance upon him.
The Saint RA asked, "What qualifications do you have that you would be worthy of A Glance from The Lord?"
The person replied "If The Lord would bestow a glance upon me, all qualifications would become manifest in me."
The Saint RA was satisfied by this reply.
Subhan Allah This is our Aqeedah, though we may be impure and weak, The Lord is surely more Merciful and Forgiving than our defects and is the True desire of all creation.
Gentleness and kindness were never a part of anything except that it made it beautiful, and harshness was never a part of anything except that it made it ugly.
Through cheating, stealing, and lying, one may get required results but finally one becomes
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