Adoption

Salaam ppl

Some of us have a child/children. Most us want to have children one day. Some of us will have already decided how many we want. Some of us will have already decided on names and careers for them. But has it ever occurred to us well what if it not in our kismat (destiny) to be blessed with children then what? Guys would you marry again in hope that your handaan (family) name will carry on? Or would you stay with your wife and accept your fate? (that you’re infertile and no matter how many times you marry there will be no kid)
Women would you allow your husband to remarry if you were the infertile one?

My grand father’s brother and his wife could not have kids. He never remarried nor adopted instead and had a lot of animals who he considered his kids. Another guy and his wife from my village back in Pakistan couldn’t have kids either. Again the guy never remarried and instead had a lot of cats. There is a guy that my dad knows and he has married 6 times in hope of a child but still no child.

None of them wanted adopt for one reason…. That the child will never be your own, when they go astray it hurts more.

There use to a girl (Muslim) that went to my primary school. Social services took her bro away when he were 2 or 3 after their mum took the kid to the doctors with a broken leg!

He was adopted by a childless couple here in the UK. He is now at university. He could have left his adopted parents when he turned 16 but he never did. He knows where his parents and brothers and sisters live but he doesn’t visit them. His brothers on the other hand spent 5 years in college before getting chucked. Their parents took them to Pakistan and got them married off. They have a couple of kids now but can’t get their wives or kids into the country because they don’t work. They mess around with other girls and sell drugs for a living.

They say a house is not blessed by Allah (swt) if there are no children.

It is said that if you adopt a child you will walk hand in hand with that child into Jannah.

Our beloved Prophet Muhammad (P.B.U.H.) was an orphan.

So why is it that childless Muslim couples do not adopt?

Jazakallah x

if someone's reason for not adopting is cos the child will never feel like 'there own', and don't see having pets would compensate in any way.

Winter is the Springtime of the Muslim. Because Allah (swt) has made the nights long for worship, and the days short for fasting!

Naz wrote:
Guys would you marry again in hope that your handaan (family) name will carry on? Or would you stay with your wife and accept your fate? (that you’re infertile and no matter how many times you marry there will be no kid)

depends who my wife was really. if it was a love marriage then ad stay with her and accept my fate. bt if it was sum mangator 4rm pakistan then i would defo get married agen lol

Naz wrote:
why is it that childless Muslim couples do not adopt?

probably beacuse the feeling that no matter what happenz, the child is not biologically thiers. imagine telling you child when he turnz 14 that "puthar, we got somehing to tel u, we are not ur real parentz, you were adopted....."
not a very nice thing to say izit?

"ThiS WoRlD Iz A PrIsOn 4 A BeLiVeR AnD PaRaDiSe 4 A NoN-BeLiVeR.........."

M4k4v3l1 wrote:
probably beacuse the feeling that no matter what happenz, the child is not biologically thiers. imagine telling you child when he turnz 14 that "puthar, we got somehing to tel u, we are not ur real parentz, you were adapted....."
not a very nice thing to say izit?

I don't think we are allowed to put that off "til they turn 14".

Islamically one must know who their parents are. Only "exception" is that a married woman's child's "father" is always her husband.

The enemy of my enemy is my... enemy.

oh comeon... thats bs and you know it.

People of the "pakistani" disposition dont wanna adopt kids bcoz theyre too busy with their heads up their a$$e$ thinking they all that! and the thought of adopting a kid who parents you dont even know creeps them out. Like they're soo clean and the kids are something filthy.

That kinda mentality really pisses me off. These people dont see an innocent child with no home, they see somebody elses problem and adopting that kid would make it their problem.

I can handle clouds, but cant fight with an eclipse.

Adopting a child is a noble act. But its not a piece of cake either.

If the adopted child is a guy his mother will have to do pardah (cover) from him when he reaches puberty.

If the adopted child is a girl, she'll have to do pardah in front of her dad when she reaches puberty.

And adopted siblings will need to do it in front of each other too, when they grow up.

M4k4v3l1 wrote:
"puthar, we got somehing to tel u, we are not ur real parentz, you were adapted....."

'adapted' lol! 'we made you out of spare thing we had lying around...
'

Winter is the Springtime of the Muslim. Because Allah (swt) has made the nights long for worship, and the days short for fasting!

Are there any UK Muslim Adoption agencies? (quick Google search returned nothing...)

The enemy of my enemy is my... enemy.

Seraphim wrote:
That kinda mentality really pisses me off.

Noone is stopping you from going out and adopting a horde of kids... (or would that be agauinst the law?)

Point being it is easy to criticise others.

The enemy of my enemy is my... enemy.

What if a couple tried and tried for a kid and then decided to adopt and then had a kid of there own, would they love the adopted kid (adapted in makaveli's case) less?

People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid.

You wrote:
Seraphim wrote:
That kinda mentality really pisses me off.

Noone is stopping you from going out and adopting a horde of kids... (or would that be agauinst the law?)

Point being it is easy to criticise others.

Yeah, but wheres the fun in that?

IF and when I cant have kids... i reserve the right to adopt.

And no freako is gonna stop me.

I can handle clouds, but cant fight with an eclipse.

What if that freako is the guy who makes the decision in whether your allowed to adopt?

People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid.

Irfan.khan wrote:
What if that freako is the guy who makes the decision in whether your allowed to adopt?

I'll cross that bridge and blow it up with C4 when i get to it.

Bad Grin

I can handle clouds, but cant fight with an eclipse.

Seraphim wrote:
IF and when I cant have kids... i reserve the right to adopt.

no comment.

The enemy of my enemy is my... enemy.

Seraphim wrote:
Irfan.khan wrote:
What if that freako is the guy who makes the decision in whether your allowed to adopt?

I'll cross that bridge and blow it up with C4 when i get to it.

Bad Grin

im sure you wont

People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid.

Ya'qub wrote:
M4k4v3l1 wrote:
"puthar, we got somehing to tel u, we are not ur real parentz, you were adapted....."

'adapted' lol! 'we made you out of spare thing we had lying around...
'

Laughing accident

"ThiS WoRlD Iz A PrIsOn 4 A BeLiVeR AnD PaRaDiSe 4 A NoN-BeLiVeR.........."

M4k4v3l1 wrote:
Naz wrote:
Guys would you marry again in hope that your handaan (family) name will carry on? Or would you stay with your wife and accept your fate? (that you’re infertile and no matter how many times you marry there will be no kid)

depends who my wife was really. if it was a love marriage then ad stay with her and accept my fate. bt if it was sum mangator 4rm pakistan then i would defo get married agen lol

Firstly you nasty so and so have a heart.

Secondly why would you marry someone who you are not remotely attracted to nor do you have anything in common with?

Thirdly what makes you think a "mangator" from Pakistan would want to marry you! They do have standards.

I dont think there are any Muslim adoption agencies in this country but most ppl if they do adopt tend to adopt from abroad (ie Pakistan). Its really complicated adopting from abroad and time consuming.

But when do you tell a kid that you are not their real parents? What if you decide never to tell them and then they hear the kids whispering in school what then?

I remember back in college when we were filling out our UCAS forms for uni there was a question which asked to state any pervious surnames you had. My tutor was peering over while i was filling it in and started to tell me that she had a student last year who was filling out her UCAS form and she came to this question and decided to have a look at her birth certificate. There was a different name on it so she confronted her parents who told her that she was adopted. Apparently she was absolutely devastated.

No not the gum drop buttons! – Gingy

Firstly you nasty so and so have a heart.
firstly i do have a heart, bt i dont use it often lol

Secondly why would you marry someone who you are not remotely attracted to nor do you have anything in common with?
secondly dats just the way it is. marry someone who u never met and spend your life with them, only reason av not got a problem with it is to keep my parents happy

Thirdly what makes you think a "mangator" from Pakistan would want to marry you! They do have standards.
thirdly al go with a british passport round my neck. we'l c hu says no them lol

"ThiS WoRlD Iz A PrIsOn 4 A BeLiVeR AnD PaRaDiSe 4 A NoN-BeLiVeR.........."

M4k4v3l1 wrote:

Secondly why would you marry someone who you are not remotely attracted to nor do you have anything in common with?
secondly dats just the way it is. marry someone who u never met and spend your life with them, only reason av not got a problem with it is to keep my parents happy

No thats not the way it is. The word chicken and mouse comes into mind lol.

M4k4v3l1 wrote:
Thirdly what makes you think a "mangator" from Pakistan would want to marry you! They do have standards.
thirdly al go with a british passport round my neck. we'l c hu says no them lol

Laughing true

No not the gum drop buttons! – Gingy

MuslimSister wrote:
Adopting a child is a noble act. But its not a piece of cake either.

If the adopted child is a guy his mother will have to do pardah (cover) from him when he reaches puberty.

If the adopted child is a girl, she'll have to do pardah in front of her dad when she reaches puberty.

And adopted siblings will need to do it in front of each other too, when they grow up.

If the woman suckles the child then she doesn't have to do pardah in front of him (if its a boy) and likewise if it's a girl. The father becomes her mehram. Not sure about the siblings but if the girl doesn't have to do pardah in front of the dad, then im guessing it's the same for the siblings.

Can anyone back me up on that, i'm certain i've heard this somewhere.

And the child must be told that he's adopted but at what age, i don't know. Probably when he/she becomes baligh.

Naz wrote:
thirdly what makes you think a "mangator" from Pakistan would want to marry you! They do have standards.

standards Confused are you mad?

People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid.

What are you trying to say about people from Pakistan?

That they will do almost anything to get to this country.
The ones which come from the shanty towns that is.

People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid.

Irfan.khan wrote:
That they will do almost anything to get to this country.

Some yes but not all. My dad is dying to go back but none is willing to go back with him.

Go back where?

People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid.

PAKISTAN. Come on Funzo, this is not like you.

Sorry, i was just clarifying yeah most people who come to england from pakistan realise that this isnt the utopia they were hoping for and then long to go back.

People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid.

I have heard that Ethiopia is a beautiful country...

The enemy of my enemy is my... enemy.

Irfan.khan wrote:
Naz wrote:
thirdly what makes you think a "mangator" from Pakistan would want to marry you! They do have standards.

standards Confused are you mad?

Must be.
All ppl have standards just the ppl from Pakistan might have to lower their standards if the person they are about to marry just happens to have a British passport.

But come on if you lived in Pakistan you would do the same (i know i would). Anything has got to better then living down there.

No not the gum drop buttons! – Gingy

You wrote:
I have heard that Ethiopia is a beautiful country...

i mean utopia

People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid.

M4k4v3l1 wrote:
Thirdly what makes you think a "mangator" from Pakistan would want to marry you! They do have standards.
thirdly al go with a british passport round my neck. we'l c hu says no them lol

Dont bet on it.

Apparently some have standards (ive just heard this... as shocking as it might be).

I can handle clouds, but cant fight with an eclipse.