Pastor Terry Jones dead?

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Why do people send texts about these things?

How does that help anyone at all? Or increase any knowledge.

I think people should send texts to remind you that need to put the washing out or something instead.

 

s.b.f wrote:
Why do people send texts about these things?

How does that help anyone at all? Or increase any knowledge.

I think people should send texts to remind you that need to put the washing out or something instead.

Uh-huh, i agree!
It's like what am I going to do? Bring the flutes and drums out, or get my mourning outfit out? Seriously!(Not in a heartless-way, in a 'seriously-what-do-you-want-me-to-do?' way....)

But, just out or curiousity, is he dead or not?

Love is a serious mental disease.

Everybody dies.

But no, he didn't - some bored person decided to fire off a lie in a text message and some how every single Muslim in the UK recvieved it.

If there is a copnspiracy, it is how did so many people get this text message?

Besides, he didn't burn the Qur'an either (and even if he had, God has promised to protect the qur'an. so its not our job to get all angry about it.)

"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.

Ok, so he isn't dead.
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Thanks for clearing my ...misunderstanding.

Love is a serious mental disease.

You wrote:

Besides, he didn't burn the Qur'an either

He didn't?

#Before you look at the thorns of the rose , look at it's beauty. Before you complain about the heat of the sun , enjoy it's light. Before you complain about the blackness of the night, think of it's peace and quiet... #

You wrote:

Besides, he didn't burn the Qur'an either

He didn't?

#Before you look at the thorns of the rose , look at it's beauty. Before you complain about the heat of the sun , enjoy it's light. Before you complain about the blackness of the night, think of it's peace and quiet... #

I don't know wheather or not you are a muslim but when you talk about religion you must have knowledge of it, allah said he will protect quran by him self through some source, it could be any source, and remember a good muslims are the soldiers of allah, and allah can use them to protect it, allah will not come by himself to fight against his creation face to face, and if he does, then... I don't need to tell you more.. I hope!!!

Abdul-Alim wrote:
I don't know wheather or not you are a muslim but when you talk about religion you must have knowledge of it, allah said he will protect quran by him self through some source, it could be any source, and remember a good muslims are the soldiers of allah, and allah can use them to protect it, allah will not come by himself to fight against his creation face to face, and if he does, then... I don't need to tell you more.. I hope!!!

Ok, but that may not be the point here. I'm not sure...

Love is a serious mental disease.

Isha Al-Maghribi wrote:
Abdul-Alim wrote:
I don't know wheather or not you are a muslim but when you talk about religion you must have knowledge of it, allah said he will protect quran by him self through some source, it could be any source, and remember a good muslims are the soldiers of allah, and allah can use them to protect it, allah will not come by himself to fight against his creation face to face, and if he does, then... I don't need to tell you more.. I hope!!!

Ok, but that may not be the point here. I'm not sure...

ok, but that may not be the point here. I'm not sure...what he stated is right,
Allah said he will protect quran by him self through some source,it could be any source,and
remember a good mulims are the soldiers of allah,and allah can use them to protect it, allah will not come by himself to fight against his creation face to face that's very true,and if he does, then... (I don't need to tell you more...) do you know what this statement means in the bracket...allah action is not fit on we...if you do good or bad we will all face the same penalty,so in this case is better we fight for allah if you don't know. A good muslims never says a word against allah neither quran..please if you don't know i feel for you...if you are not a muslim stay away from muslim problem please.

Ousman wrote:
Isha Al-Maghribi wrote:
Abdul-Alim wrote:
I don't know wheather or not you are a muslim but when you talk about religion you must have knowledge of it, allah said he will protect quran by him self through some source, it could be any source, and remember a good muslims are the soldiers of allah, and allah can use them to protect it, allah will not come by himself to fight against his creation face to face, and if he does, then... I don't need to tell you more.. I hope!!!

Ok, but that may not be the point here. I'm not sure...

ok, but that may not be the point here. I'm not sure...what he stated is right,
Allah said he will protect quran by him self through some source,it could be any source,and
remember a good mulims are the soldiers of allah,and allah can use them to protect it, allah will not come by himself to fight against his creation face to face that's very true,and if he does, then... (I don't need to tell you more...) do you know what this statement means in the bracket...allah action is not fit on we...if you do good or bad we will all face the same penalty,so in this case is better we fight for allah if you don't know. A good muslims never says a word against allah neither quran..please if you don't know i feel for you...if you are not a muslim stay away from muslim problem please.

Excuse me.....????
I am truly and fully Muslim!"$%%*)_!!"?@:
And, what do you mean "If you don't know, I feel for you" ?!?"$?£&?
I meant it's not the point here, because the question was "is pastor Jones dead?"
I did not ask for any lectures on Allah swt, Al-Muqi'it, Ar-Raqeeb.Yes, I know Allah swt will protect the Ko'ran/Qur'an.I did not argue against this point.
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The point of this is to find out if Jones' is dead, not anything else.
Sheesh!

Ousman wrote:

if you are not a muslim stay away from muslim problem please.

I am Muslim; therefore i have the right.
'Muslim problems'?
Since when was this a problem. Just a mere question.

I hate the way people come to me thinking I'm an ignorant and lecture me about Islam !
Islam is the purpose of Life (for a Muslim), and I've been studying it for life!
Honestly!

Love is a serious mental disease.

I am shocked that you think, "Love is a serious mental disease" according to your mentality if love is mental disease, that means you do not love allah,and If you mean love between male & female, then of course it is haram, we should not even make slogun for ourself, beside you are telling others by your action you are an ignorant, because no one knows you personally to discrive what you are? the less we talk, more chances are to stay out of fithnah, or exposing our self,

May Allah Give us Tawfikh to only serve him, keep us from fithnah,to control our tounge, Aameen, Wa akhirdda'wana anilhamduli rabbil aalameen.

"Life is like a Bus/Train, we (creation of allah) are the musafir, if we choose to have our journey peacefull, we need to have tolorance/understanding/unity/love, or else our journey will ends up where would never wish to to go/live, I am sure you can guess where...???

Abdul-Alim wrote:
I am shocked that you think, "Love is a serious mental disease" according to your mentality if love is mental disease, that means you do not love allah,and If you mean love between male & female, then of course it is haram, we should not even make slogun for ourself, beside you are telling others by your action you are an ignorant, because no one knows you personally to discrive what you are? the less we talk, more chances are to stay out of fithnah, or exposing our self,

May Allah Give us Tawfikh to only serve him, keep us from fithnah,to control our tounge, Aameen, Wa akhirdda'wana anilhamduli rabbil aalameen.

"Life is like a Bus/Train, we (creation of allah) are the musafir, if we choose to have our journey peacefull, we need to have tolorance/understanding/unity/love, or else our journey will ends up where would never wish to to go/live, I am sure you can guess where...???

Omg, you are just seriously straying from the bloody point now!¬
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, I'm sure.
I've just heard this saying a lot.....wha....excuse me, why on earth am i justifying myself to the likes of you?

I respect you, and i respect the fact that you love my God, also. But, my love for God does not lack. I love Allah equally. What ever i do is for my deen, my way of life...

Also, you analyse things from a fair, but odd angle. Interesting.

Love is a serious mental disease.

Isha...conversations with anonymous posters shouldnt be taken seriously, just calm down...

Is it true? Is it kind? Is it necessary?

Lilly wrote:
Isha...conversations with anonymous posters shouldnt be taken seriously, just calm down...

Yeah Isha, calm down, this guy is probably in love. Besides I back you on the love stuff.

Never have I dealt with anything more difficult than my own soul, which sometimes helps me and sometimes opposes me.
-Imam Al-Ghazali

TO LILLY:

yes, you are right, I am in love with allah and his deen, and what's wrong in being anonymous? an anonymous far better then fake one, we are only making coments so that we could learn from each others & correct our mistakes for the sake of our deen, truth is bitter that's why many find it hard to digest,

We all should make coment to learn from each other, but when ever we face truth, we get scared, and try to make our own point to divert the truth, towards evil act. and some shows it by their expression/agression/ by many forms, like adding rude/evil/scary pictures or coments.

Abdul alim brutha uve got problems. Limme tel sumting. Allah has also said there gna no more prophets or miracles after prophet mohammed pbuh. So wat if terry jone went ahead with idiotic action? Remember no more miracles and no more prophets so its up to all the

Muslims.

Anyways is he dead or alive?

Wassalam

wa alaikum assalam, I searched internet but no where i found he is dead. that's all I can tell you.

Brother I do not have no problem, what people was asking him is wheather this person was dead or alive, but he was telling about quran will be protected by allah himself so we need not worry about it, if you read all my comments, you will find your answer.

Jazakallah,

zdc wrote:
Lilly wrote:
Isha...conversations with anonymous posters shouldnt be taken seriously, just calm down...

Yeah Isha, calm down, this guy is probably in love. Besides I back you on the love stuff.

Ok, fine.
Whatever floats B. Abdul's boat.
But, i just hate the demeaning way people think that I'm ignorant of Islam!
Just because i don't go on about it 24/7 does not exactly mean that i lack in information.
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Ok, calm. Nice meeting you.

Love is a serious mental disease.

Boy! This is turning out to be a mountain out of a molehill...like someone above pointed out, the thread was to enquire about pastor Terry Jones' life and we have people getting all worked up about the meaning of Islam and all...

It's surprising how quickly word spreads...I live in India and my mom [!!] got the same sms this morning...with the expected emotional blackmailey "fwd it to as many people if you're a true muslim...show the infidels" etc...[reminds me of the ruckus over the Apple store in downtown manhattan that some email said was a replica of the Mecca mosque...gawd!!]...i feel every responsible muslim should make the effort to verify such facts before fwd-ing the msg...and again, fwd it if you will for purely informative reasons, rather than giving it a vengeful angle...as this religious speaker i was listening to the other day said - "a big problem is the unnecessary attitude of arrogance flouted by many muslims these days...Islam doesn't condone this...in the time of the Prophet [pbuh] Islam attracted people and spread like wildfire because of humility and respect, epitomised by the Prophet himself"

[ok, i know i'm not helping by furthering the cause of sticking to the point myself, but...] It hurts me as a muslim when my non-muslim friends praise my humility, manners and general conduct but say "you are not like most muslims we know, you are different and we like you...most muslims are aggressive"...food for thought my fellow muslim brothers and sisters...your general conduct is being watched closely, you are an ambassador of your religion...so mind yourself...avoid unnecessary confrontation...we know all know in our heart of hearts that we're nowhere near the ideal muslim Islam expects us to be...so lets work on that part...peace!

bystander wrote:
Boy! This is turning out to be a mountain out of a molehill...like someone above pointed out, the thread was to enquire about pastor Terry Jones' life and we have people getting all worked up about the meaning of Islam and all...

I rest my case.

Love is a serious mental disease.

Let's not forget that the Q'ran (Koran) is a palgarised version of the Holy Bible as Mohammed started this cultural movement 600 years after the advent of Christianity.
No mention of Mohammed was made in the Holy Scriptures but this Q'ran is full of the mention of Isa (Christ) and if you believe Isa to be your prophet then you must listen to the words of your prophets as not doing so is anti your professed faith; isn't it?

(We are to love all regardless of who they are as that is what Chritianity teaches. It is this same love we extend to all and sundry. Do I therefore want the pulling down of mosques and the stoning and beheading of Christians as most Sharia-law based muslim countries do to churches and Chritians in these countries? Absolutely NOT!!! But we must love them into the Kingdom of God by always turning the other cheek and God willing they will be convicted by their folly).

Now the same Jesus Christ said, ''I am the way, the truth and the life; no one cometh unto the Father except by me'' and also went on to say ...''if you have seen me, you have seen the Father''

What more do you need to be convinced? However no matter how you reject Him, His word and His mercies endureth forever and His love for mankind who can fathom? Repent therefore and believe that you might be saved!

For those of you who still are in doubt and want to know more, please check out SKY channel 587 every thurday night at 11.30pm. This is a programme by ex muslims (The LORD bless them) for muslims and non-muslims alike as it gives me great encouragement, and it is titled ''The Muslim journey to Hope''. God is love and does want all to be saved and escape the impending doom that will befall mankind at the second coming of The LORD Jesus Christ our Saviour. Make hay therefore while the sun still shines. God bless you all in His precious name.....Amen.

I read a txt saying this pastor other than the Terry guy, who apparently HAD burned the koran or suin died....

"Verily, in the remembrance of Allah, do hearts find rest"

The text was a lie.

"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.

he will still die..koran...you taking it for granted...try it and see...your leaders know what will happen to the country...hahaa...be carefull christians...just know what your are doing...ask yourself who is jesus...was jesus crucify...should you worship what you mould with your hands...the day of judgement is at nay.

So will everyone else ... die.

I don't think the proof in actions - or non actions as he did pull out of his event - is always in wether a person lives or dies.

The people spreading this rumour are coming at it all from an incredibly naive angle.

Let's give an opposite angle here - God is merciful and wants to give people a chance to turn to him, surely he could give sinners a longer life in order to give them more chances to repent? So the person may live longer.

"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.

huzaif abdulrauf wrote:
he will still die..koran...you taking it for granted...try it and see...your leaders know what will happen to the country...hahaa...be carefull christians...just know what your are doing...ask yourself who is jesus...was jesus crucify...should you worship what you mould with your hands...the day of judgement is at nay.

wow, i cant totally imagine u saying this Mr Burns style

kinda creepy.... (no offense)

"Verily, in the remembrance of Allah, do hearts find rest"

I agree. God judges those that speak out wrongly. He will be judged fairly and karma will get him. Hes an evil cunt that doesnt deserve a voice and im worried for any one that follows his views. Im not gonna go on an waste any of my breath on him. I hope he is dead, definitely went to hell with adolph hitler , bet their roommates

P.s he gives americans a bad name, why dont you (americans) wipe him from memory? Is he even worth a thought?

He is dead?

Just a thought. Chuck him on the shite heap with tony blair and bush junior

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