Pack Your Bags I’m Taking You to Pakistan…
Salaam
It’s been years since I heard my dad say this….but when I was a teenager I used to hear this a lot…
Usually it was when I kept on speaking in English and dad was speaking to me in Urdu…..this used to tick him off but now even he’s given up on trying to teach us Urdu…
Whenever any of us used to go into a strop or acted like a moody, stroppy teenager….we used to hear “That’s it- go upstairs and pack your bags, you’re all going Pakistan”…
Even as a 15year old I never understood this threat…I loved going Pakistan and dad knew this.
Have your parents ever threatened you like this? Or do they use other threats….and have your parents ever actually carried out their threats?
And what exactly is it about Pakistan and discipline? I knew this rebel girl- she was out of control and even used to bring weapons to school…her mum took her to Pakistan and she came back a reformed teenager?!
And another thing, would it be correct to say that the kids back home are a LOT more respectful with their parents then the kids from here are?....I think they are….obviously I cant speak on behalf of every child there however, based on personal experience I’ve been surprised at the high level of blind obedience parents back home receive…why is this?
And what IS the best way to discipline a child? Beating him/her with sticks or giving him/her a light slap now and again only as a last resort?
In my family girls are never physically harmed- regardless of how naughty they are. However, as a last resort dads often may smack their sons….is this fair? (I think it is)
OR are you totally against raising your hands to children? Is shouting at them more then enough? Or do you believe that even shouting is wrong?
What is effective discipline?
Share your thoughts…
Wasalaam
271 comments
yuit Thu, 23 Feb 2006 - 23:36
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Nah, i have a nice flag of the shahadah instead. :? But to be honest bro, can't tell if u being sarky or not.
Anonymous (not verified) Thu, 23 Feb 2006 - 23:39
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Only a little sarcastic :roll:
You Thu, 23 Feb 2006 - 23:53
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erm... why was my question ignored?
wass786 Thu, 23 Feb 2006 - 23:59
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yes pakistan has not got better freedom than here but overall you wouldnt disrespect ur parents or family or any 1 compared to here.
when you die are you gona take your land with you? where u grew up? or rather ur heart..
Anonymous (not verified) Fri, 24 Feb 2006 - 00:08
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And the Bihari soldiers aligned themselves with Pakistan- divine an conquer – show me your document .
Pakistan betrayed them too
You Fri, 24 Feb 2006 - 00:20
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Its not from a document.
I was talking to someone knowledgeable about Kashmir.
That was an offhand remark he made.
I did not ask him about Bangladesh.
I am asking you.
I share no guilt over what happened .I share no responsibility over it.
Nor does anyone on here.
But you are passionate, so I asked you about the grouping of the soldiers. I would assume you have looked into it.
Weere they punjabs, Balochi's sindhi's sarhadi's or bengli's?
I know that Sarhadi's (and Balochi's) helped out in kashmir in 1947.
And people from east pakistan were discriminated against in getting into the armed forces, because there was a minimum height restriction.
So I am asking who was involved.
Anonymous (not verified) Fri, 24 Feb 2006 - 11:15
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I’m not asking for sympathy, nor hold you responsible or any other British born Pakistani responsible for your countries crimes- however for Muslim to seek justice all must come to together and vocally express these war criminals are brought to Justice- this includes the God fearing Pakistani with a conscience.
Already a well documented historic fact many or if not the majority of the soldier’s station in Bangladesh where of Punjabi ethnic origin and Bihari (Urdu speaking Bengali) – once Pakistan was defeated the Bihari became refugee’s, effectively Pakistan cut of all ties with them and did not give them asylum in Pakistan. And Indira Gandhi, expressed full support of her government to the Bangladeshi struggle for freedom
It wasn’t just discrimination into the military you forgot to mention the economic exploitation of east Bangladesh, a systematic campaign to make the Bangladesh subserviently to it’s colonial masters. Mass arrests of dissidents began, and attempts were made to disarm East Pakistani soldiers and police, many of Bangladesh top academics and intellects where assassinated.
RuBz Fri, 24 Feb 2006 - 11:21
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I dont mean to be rude Shazan but like what you chattin bout, like with the bengalis and all the other stuff you sed ma brain dont get ya sorry lol
yashmaki Fri, 24 Feb 2006 - 11:39
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Omrow that was way out of line. You need to learn when to quit fooling around this isn't the appropriate time for your so called humour :!:
Anonymous (not verified) Fri, 24 Feb 2006 - 12:00
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We are discussing genocide- I’ am being rude, either go back to sleep or read up on history
yuit Fri, 24 Feb 2006 - 12:24
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Anonymous (not verified) Fri, 24 Feb 2006 - 12:33
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Yuti, if this is the best polemic that you can muster, then I suggest you join a Sufi sect and start in the group dancing, you are not cut out to be a Salafist.
*DUST* Fri, 24 Feb 2006 - 13:15
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guys - thats enough. cut it out.
RuBz Mon, 27 Feb 2006 - 09:44
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Erm n people wonder y Muslims cant unite these days u duffus!
Seraphim Mon, 27 Feb 2006 - 14:47
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Common flaw among young muslims... too sure of themselves they are.
Unwilling to look past their differences to see their similarities.
United we can stand divided we shall...
Dave Mon, 27 Feb 2006 - 17:13
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Fall?
lol Muslim Unity is such a buzz word.
Every group uses it to justify their existence or their actions - in fact as a very general rule it seems like the groups that shout it the loudest are usually the most fringe.
Have you guys ever been unified? It seems like the only person to accomplish that was your prophet.
Because immediately following that you started having disputes about who should lead, doctrinal differences and you never really came back together.
Even the "Caliphate" seems a bit of an illusion - it ignores the shifting dynasties doctrinal differences held in check by threat of force and the eventual severing of the empire into two portions - Spain and the rest. Followed by massive revolts from within and invasions from without, by other muslims like the Turks.
It doesn't even seem like you can decide why to unify or to unify around what. Most people say "Islam" but honestly - is bin Laden offering you Islam when he asks for muslim unity? Are Wahhabis offering you Islam when they ask for muslim unity? - Is MPAC offering you Islam?
It's always issue driven "drive out the kaffir from muslim lands" "end oppression against muslims" "destroy dangerous heresies trying to destroy Islam."
Those are temporary states - problems that face the entire muslim world, and while it certainly can be helped through islamic "unity" how is political unity or a Caliphate really going to make a difference. And once those problems are solved... then what? All of a sudden you have this thing of unity built around addressing temporary problems and you don't know what to do with it when they are gone.
For unity of any kind to be meaningful and last it must be built on an honest lasting foundation.
So it seems to me that the temporary togetherness you are essentially buying from the Bengalis by asking them to set it aside and let it go for the sake of "unity" so that it will be easier to facilitate dealing with Islam's temporary problems is building on false foundations - which will collapse when these problems go away.
But actual reconciliation that derives from Pakistan accepting what it did and making positive steps to prevent it in the future - thereby regaining the trust and sense of common direction from Bengalis - creates a better foundation for lasting unity built around the idea of mutual trust and common direction in Islam, which are long term reasons for unity - not answers for short term problems.
So that makes me think that both Shazan and Yuit are talking about the same thing - unity. But I think Shazan's is more in the long term lasting direction kind of way.
Neither of you are using unity as an excuse or misdirection for hidden desires to see nationalist agendas put forward. So it's not right to accuse each another of not caring about preserving brotherhood.
You're just looking at the same thing from two very different angles.
Anonymous (not verified) Mon, 27 Feb 2006 - 17:18
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What ever has befallen my people, my Ummah has befallen before me
yuit Mon, 27 Feb 2006 - 20:14
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yashmaki Mon, 27 Feb 2006 - 20:47
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although i don't agree entirely with some of brother Yuits views on the subject one thing i agree with is manners. Who wants to give time to someone who can't give you some basic respect? No matter what the argument maybe if you can't command some common curtesy to the person you're addressing, it's best you keep silent altogether, coz it will fall to deaf ears.
I doubt brother Shazan would take kindly to anyone speaking disrespectfully to his own brother or sister, so maybe he should think twice about speaking with such contempt towards members on this forum, simply because they lack knowledge on the subject. Yes we lack knowledge we have admitted that, but rubbing it in our face won't make you a better person or further your cause.
I'm sure there are subjects out there on which you lack knowledge how would you feel if someone spoke to you rudely simply because of that?
Anonymous (not verified) Wed, 1 Mar 2006 - 00:18
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Blah Blah Blah…………. Await a full response from me. 😉
TPOS Fri, 23 Jan 2009 - 16:35
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LOL i have never been threatened with this and don't think i ever will. i dont think thats because im a goody-two-shoes because my brother has never been threatened by this either. but i have heard of people who have been sent away when they are really bad or whatever.
Last time i went to pakistan was when i was 8/9 and it was great, i loved it there! 🙂
proud_hijabi Fri, 23 Jan 2009 - 16:59
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my mom always goes to me shes sending me to yemen to learn everything the hard way
but its an empty threat because she knows i would like it there 🙂 but not the education system from what ive heard
my bro was gonna get sent to somala for getting excluded aswell but he begged my mum not to coz its hell over there
Seraphim Fri, 23 Jan 2009 - 18:17
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Its been used once or twice in our house.
But its an empty threat. Parents lov us too much.
You Wed, 4 Feb 2009 - 20:27
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Just had to quote this.
TPOS Wed, 4 Feb 2009 - 22:06
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😂 i very much doubt it is! Dawud is soooo funny lol
You Wed, 4 Feb 2009 - 22:13
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This is a different Dave from Dawud. Bother are witty though, so maybe there is somehting with that name... Ya'qub - do you have a middle name of "Dave"?
Ya'qub Wed, 4 Feb 2009 - 22:16
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My middle name does indeed begin with 'D'.
But Danger is my middle name.
TPOS Wed, 4 Feb 2009 - 22:20
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LOL i realised it was Dawud and Dave but i thought Dawud wrote the last bit!
O well, yes they both are funny! 😛
Beast Sat, 14 Feb 2009 - 19:55
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I've been reading through the thread again. So funny. Brings back memories. Whatever happened to Dave, Sirus and MuslimSisLilSis?
Update: I'm engaged and due to go to Pakistan at the end of the year to get married.
Noor Sat, 14 Feb 2009 - 19:56
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congrats dude!
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