Seraphim wrote:

Does anyone other than me actually use the 'Recent Posts' button at the top of the page?

Yep, i always use it. actually i ONLY use that button to get to the forums!

wednesday wrote:

no not really, just tiny writing (i'm good at patterns, well nearly)

Ppl who are good at art can always do nice henna patterns. I got big sis to do mine shes very good at art. Me on the other hand i cant even draw stick men lol.

I clearly remember back in high school in year 9 we had to copy a picture from a book but change it. I think they call it abstract. Anyway they hung everyones up and im the only one that noticed mine was upside down . it was bad, really bad lol.

You wrote:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_EQc_hLHXONE/SNkBaN3UN0I/AAAAAAAACSs/Ld6ke1eBOH...

Sickeningly ironic.

Naz wrote:

wednesday wrote:

no not really, just tiny writing (i'm good at patterns, well nearly)

Ppl who are good at art can always do nice henna patterns. I got big sis to do mine shes very good at art. Me on the other hand i cant even draw stick men lol.

I clearly remember back in high school in year 9 we had to copy a picture from a book but change it. I think they call it abstract. Anyway they hung everyones up and im the only one that noticed mine was upside down . it was bad, really bad lol.

Henna art isnt all that difficult. They are all symmetrical, reiterative patterns. I undertook a make-up/hair/henna course recently (sad to admit, but true), and discovered that the end results look impressive, but are a piece of cake to create. :shock:

i got my mehndi done, never getting it done again. the design and colour came out disgusting, probably the ugliest thing i've ever seen in my life, it's bright orange! could have done a better pattern myself. been washing my hands constantly ever since, volunteered to do the washing up till it comes off. wore gloves to college and planning to keep them on till it comes off!

Amal wrote:

Naz wrote:

wednesday wrote:

no not really, just tiny writing (i'm good at patterns, well nearly)

Ppl who are good at art can always do nice henna patterns. I got big sis to do mine shes very good at art. Me on the other hand i cant even draw stick men lol.

I clearly remember back in high school in year 9 we had to copy a picture from a book but change it. I think they call it abstract. Anyway they hung everyones up and im the only one that noticed mine was upside down . it was bad, really bad lol.

Henna art isnt all that difficult. They are all symmetrical, reiterative patterns. I undertook a make-up/hair/henna course recently (sad to admit, but true), and discovered that the end results look impressive, but are a piece of cake to create. :shock:

Nowt wrong with that. I wanted to do it but its really expensive. Theres one place that does it in Manchester and they charge like £100/£200 quid just to learn how to do the hair. Make and hair is something like £300. But the good thing is think of all the money you save now that you know how to do it.

Naz wrote:

Nowt wrong with that. I wanted to do it but its really expensive. Theres one place that does it in Manchester and they charge like £100/£200 quid just to learn how to do the hair. Make and hair is something like £300. But the good thing is think of all the money you save now that you know how to do it.

To be honest, I hardly gained or learnt anything significant, and really didnt feel that I got value for money. Apart from learning how to give facials, basic make-up routines, sari draping, bit of henna art, the rest of it I could have learnt from Youtube (they have some very useful tutorials on applying make-up!)

One course I WOULD recommend, though, is haute couture (or the less swanky-sounding, clothes-making!) Ive also recently completed a year-long accredited sewing course, and can now measure, draft and sew a whole variety of clothes (mashaAllah and alhmadulilahi rabbil alameen) I learnt so much, and am very glad that I undertook it (gosh, if I didnt come across as being a saddo before, I must do now lol)

Amal wrote:

Naz wrote:

Nowt wrong with that. I wanted to do it but its really expensive. Theres one place that does it in Manchester and they charge like £100/£200 quid just to learn how to do the hair. Make and hair is something like £300. But the good thing is think of all the money you save now that you know how to do it.

To be honest, I hardly gained or learnt anything significant, and really didnt feel that I got value for money. Apart from learning how to give facials, basic make-up routines, sari draping, bit of henna art, the rest of it I could have learnt from Youtube (they have some very useful tutorials on applying make-up!)

One course I WOULD recommend, though, is haute couture (or the less swanky-sounding, clothes-making!) Ive also recently completed a year-long accredited sewing course, and can now measure, draft and sew a whole variety of clothes (mashaAllah and alhmadulilahi rabbil alameen) I learnt so much, and am very glad that I undertook it (gosh, if I didnt come across as being a saddo before, I must do now lol)

Lol thats another thing i want to do. I can sew clothes but they are very basic and sometimes the salwaar goes a bit dodgy lol.

So much to do and so little time.

You wrote:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_EQc_hLHXONE/SNkBaN3UN0I/AAAAAAAACSs/Ld6ke1eBOH...

Access denied. But then again most sites are denied in this country. Even Youtube and Facebook!

Im in the mood for analysing. Just a random survey, whats everyones favourite season?

Il start, mines Summer

All shall be revealed soon.

Winter

Right I was doing this psycho analysis mumbo jumbo thing (what is your favourite season) on my family. The season they picked was the season they were born in. Its sooo weird

So Im guessing that Wednesday your born in Autumn
Seraphim Winter and
You (Admin) lol erm we will go with your first choice spring

Am I right?

For those that dont know what season your born in (not that Im calling you stupid) here they are:

Spring starts from March 21st
Summer from June 21st
Autumn from September 21st
Winter from 21st

I was going to say summer.

Salaam everyone! hope you are in the best of health and iman.

just wanted to say that the last issue of the revival was fantastic! well done!

ps. thanks for lunch wednesday...it was yummy!

Not really to be honest. There's afine line between freedom of debate and freedom to grossly offend and bitch about, even if they're Turkeys of the Month or politicians. Speaking of which we never seems to do Turkeys of the Month anymore. Why is that?

I found this on article very interesting. I thought I post it here for benefit of everyone.

Although it is Jewish religious point of view, I think Muslims should read it too.

Jews consider some form of music to be forbidden by God.

Jews say it is haram (i.e. not kosher) to listen to certain type of music.

"The use of percussion accompaniment in slow, quiet music is generally ridiculous. 2/4 beats and other rock and disco beats must not be used"

Rabbis black-list non-kosher music

Rabbi Luft says modern music can corrupt young people

By Wyre Davies - BBC News, Jerusalem - Friday, 12 September 2008

Lipa Schmeltzer looks and sounds every inch the popular ultra-orthodox Jewish singer that he is.

He sings in Yiddish. He dresses in the clothes of a Haredi Jew and all of his song lyrics come from the scriptures.

Yet some say Schmeltzer's music, and that of others like him, is indecent and unfit for public consumption.

"They are leading the public astray and are causing a great negative influence on the young generation," says Rabbi Efraim Luft, head of an ultra-orthodox organisation in Israel called the Committee for Jewish Music.

Supported by leading Haredi rabbis, Rabbi Luft has drawn up a black-list of musicians and bands - music that he says that is not kosher and cannot be played at ultra-orthodox weddings or public events because of its decadent nature.

What Rabbi Luft objects to so vehemently is not just contemporary, western music - rock, rap or pop - but the use of modern instruments and beats in the tunes of orthodox singers like Lipa Schmeltzer.

"The main part of the music should be the melody. Percussion should be secondary. They should not bend notes electronically and should not use instruments like electric guitars, bass guitars or saxophones in Jewish music," he says.

Sitting in the dining room of his small flat in the orthodox town of Bnei Brak, close to Tel Aviv, Rabbi Luft explains his preference for traditional, even sombre, Jewish tunes like Kol Nidrei.

A serious, studious man the rabbi explains how he thinks modern music is disrespectful, leading young people astray and can lead to the collapse of education and the family system.

It is a broad charge, but the rabbi is convinced that in the last 25 years music has gradually eroded moral standing in society.

Saying that music is "powerful", he says the "purpose of modern music - its influences - is to distract young people and change good characters into bad".

The Rabbi says such music, even Jewish rock music, "where the dangerous beat plays more of a part than the melody, has no place in a society where people are trying to keep their moral standards high.

Concerts banned

There are approximately 500,000 ultra-orthodox Haredi Jews in Israel. They tend to live in their own communities in, or near Israel's major towns.

Their plain, modest clothing, rituals and centuries-old customs make the Haredis unmistakable and their lives revolve around their faith.

Because of the loyal relationship between orthodox Jews and their rabbis, the influence of bodies like the Committee for Jewish Music and the Guardians of Sanctity and Education is considerable.

They have already succeeded in banning virtually all public concerts by ultra-orthodox groups and singers in Israel.

Famous, successful singers like Avraham Fried - a devout, observant orthodox Jew - are not exempt.

Making up around 8% of the population of Israel, the Haredi community has real economic clout. Boycotts have been very effective.

Menahem Toker, an award-winning disc jockey, who was dismissed from a radio show under pressure from Haredi activists, warns the policy could backfire.

"In Jewish Orthodox culture there's no cinema, no theatre, no television. The only thing we have is music", says Mr Toker.

"We are the same, orthodox, people but if they don't find an alternative they'll lose the young people - they'll go to non-kosher shows and they'll have lost the next generation."

It is a dire warning from a man who cares deeply about his religion and his music - but the hard-line rabbis are unapologetic.

In a world bursting with mobile phones, MP4 players and DVDs they say it is their moral duty to protect young people against the evils of the modern world.

See also:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7636021.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7609859.stm

My eyes are mashed
I have viral conjunctivities or sumthing like that.. ive had 4 different types of eyedrops and 2 oitments, and nothing has worked.. my mum blames my contact lenses
the bacterial conjuctitivites is catchy,, and apparently its a bug going around the UK
anyone else got it?

Maybe glasses will wokr better for you.

Omrow wrote:

I found this on article very interesting. I thought I post it here for benefit of everyone.

Although it is Jewish religious point of view, I think Muslims should read it too.

Jews consider some form of music to be forbidden by God.

Jews say it is haram (i.e. not kosher) to listen to certain type of music.

"The use of percussion accompaniment in slow, quiet music is generally ridiculous. 2/4 beats and other rock and disco beats must not be used"

..................

Rabbis black-list non-kosher music

See also:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7636021.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7609859.stm

Very interesting insight, but im pleasantly not surprised.. If we look into the three main monotheistic religions; Judaeo-christian-muslim faith, we'll most definitely find very close similarities. My sister's friend - a strict christain (with her father as a Vicar!), doesnt drink alcohol, pork. Orthodox Jews dress very conservative (even better than some Muslims ive noted!), refrain from shaking hands with the opposite gender/limited physical contact, and other similar observances and guidelines as is laid down for Muslims. It no wonder that they are considered our cousins in faith and/or people of the book.

xSmurfy786x wrote:

My eyes are mashed
I have viral conjunctivities or sumthing like that.. ive had 4 different types of eyedrops and 2 oitments, and nothing has worked.. my mum blames my contact lenses
the bacterial conjuctitivites is catchy,, and apparently its a bug going around the UK
anyone else got it?

May Allah aza waj'al give you shifa - You never realise how important your eyes are until you encounter problems with them..

Perhaps you should stop wearing your contacts for the time being whilst your eyes inshaAllah recover..?

Poor Smurfy!

go to the chemist, if its conjunctivitis they'll give you some eyedrops, and it'll go away quite quickly.

Get well soon!

xSmurfy786x wrote:

My eyes are mashed
I have viral conjunctivities or sumthing like that.. ive had 4 different types of eyedrops and 2 oitments, and nothing has worked.. my mum blames my contact lenses
the bacterial conjuctitivites is catchy,, and apparently its a bug going around the UK
anyone else got it?

Youve probably been taking your contacts out with dirty hands or using the same solution for more then one day to store them in. Your suppose to have a one day a week break from lens.

wednesday wrote:

) unless if you have the night ones (which are insanely expensive just so that you can sleep in ur contacts? huh?)

They are only £15 and they are really comfy in comparison to the 12 hour ones. Plus you can wear them for more than 12 hours. But when you do eventually take them out they make your eyes really dry.

Wednesday wrote:

and o yh, get contacts from a professional not the shop round the corner plz... and ask for a CL consultation!!

Lol that reminds me my sister. She orders her off some website where they dont even check with your opticians. She like a minus 11 and she wears minus 9 contact lens (coloured only go up to a minus 9). Oh yeah and she drives in them

wednesday wrote:

this is for the ladies, they end up having 'yellowish' eyes at an early age :shock: and optoms can't do anything abt it! (why, cause it's due to the lack of O2 getting to your cornea which stimulates the bulbar conjunctive to thicken up hence reducing it's transparency and result : 'yellow' sclera)

Yuck!

I think everyone should wear glasses, whether or not you need them. They make you look intelligent and attractive!

wednesday wrote:

em, you shouldn't have told me abt your sis man! now i'm gna nightmares (it's a good thing i don't remember em tho! :P) ... man that is a fairly huge (or as they say on the streets 'PHAT') prescription, has she been given a good chat abt the hazards?

Yep. She wears the monthly ones which yuor suppose to chuck out at the end of the month but she wears them for like 3/4 months! She a proper canjoose lol.

wednesday wrote:

i'm gna repeat this again: wearing CLs have ALOTOF complications... this is for the ladies, they end up having 'yellowish' eyes at an early age :shock: and optoms can't do anything abt it! (why, cause it's due to the lack of O2 getting to your cornea which stimulates the bulbar conjunctive to thicken up hence reducing it's transparency and result : 'yellow' sclera)

My eyes are sometimes red but i think thats coz of the lack of sleep plus the combination of wearing contacts.

You could always get them lasered.

wednesday wrote:

Seraphim wrote:

You could always get them lasered.

is there a bleepy point having the luxury of no glasses or CLs for a short period of your lifetime, cos no matter what, you're gna get old, which means that your eyes will loose the ability to accommodate therefore, you'll still end up wearing reading glasses! (FACT)

True, but thats not until much later on in life.

I wear dailys... but cant be bothered with them on the wkend. So i wear these funky specs

PS why does it show im logged in twice?????