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lol. Does any1 here really think I care if any1 agrees with me or not? Guidance is in ALLAHs Hands , I am a mere human.
This forum is essentially for the minhaj brigade so I dont expect much agreement. Whatever is decreed shall come to pass.
Agree with me, disagree with me. I care not two figs.
Btw that was a quote from an alim of truth. The credit is with the Hadrat, I merely copied and pasted.
Ya ALLAH Madad.
Haq Chaar Yaar
I gotta agree. We do have alot of Minhajians on board. We used to have a large distribution through MinhajulQur'an centres in the old days. No idea if it still holds.
Others are welcome, and I am sure alot of the members are not minhajian, or others may have come across minhaj through members on thsi forum.
Everyone has diferent opinions. it is not upto people to always agree. You should always consider the view, but always make your own.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
Did i touch a nerve, oris it that time of month Med? Yeh it cant hav been u with them views u quoted cuz i actually agreed. So dunt worry ur back to being a fool.
_____________- -SupeRazor- -_______________
Some ppl make their goals the stars.
They may live n die n never reach the stars,
but in the darkness of the night, those stars will guide them to their destination.
Becuz they made them in their eyesight
never heard of minhaj before august 8th.....
and what is the mission?
k, whatever.
The reason i wrote that was cos u acting like u doing me a favour by agreeing or semi agreeing with me and behaving as though i shudda been grateful.
Sorry but not really that aint me.
I wud say most of the stuff i say here the majority of ppl here wud disagree with. Brother I aint here as part of a popularity contest, 2 b honest if I was popular here I would be worried abt myself.
Nah.
Its all good. And abt me being a fool, well done, u have recognised me for what I am.
Ya ALLAH Madad.
Haq Chaar Yaar
u shouldnt assume things about people. :?
thats me!
[size=9]I NEVER WORE IT BECAUSE OF THE TALIBAN, MOTHER. I LIKE THE [b]MODESTY[/b] AND [b]PROTECTION[/b] IT AFFORDS ME FROM THE EYES OF MEN.[/size] [url=http://www.adherents.com/lit/comics/Dust.html]Dust, X-Men[/url]
So what what do you think of them?
(I can be extremely negative, but I'll hold my peace
Don't wanna offend anyone. And it has no purpose to it. Will not achieve anything)
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
think of who, this 'Minhaj' organisation?
i dunno enough about them to comment. they seem to be doing a lot of work with the youth.
[size=9]I NEVER WORE IT BECAUSE OF THE TALIBAN, MOTHER. I LIKE THE [b]MODESTY[/b] AND [b]PROTECTION[/b] IT AFFORDS ME FROM THE EYES OF MEN.[/size] [url=http://www.adherents.com/lit/comics/Dust.html]Dust, X-Men[/url]
Can't knock that.
There are only a few organisations who actually work with muslim kids. ood luck to them all.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
perhaps you dont understand english to well.
My above statement means essentially this forum is for the minhaj lot, hence u will see that most of the people who come here and rite what it is they rite are affiliated with minhaj.
Did I say you were one of them or not?
Did I mention any1?
Why do u think im chattin abt u?
Ya ALLAH Madad.
Haq Chaar Yaar
perhaps u need some sleep - uv been taking a reactionary stance in almost every reply you posted... :roll:
ur 'statement' that 'essentially this forum is for the minhaj lot' is an assumption in itself. :roll:
[size=9]I NEVER WORE IT BECAUSE OF THE TALIBAN, MOTHER. I LIKE THE [b]MODESTY[/b] AND [b]PROTECTION[/b] IT AFFORDS ME FROM THE EYES OF MEN.[/size] [url=http://www.adherents.com/lit/comics/Dust.html]Dust, X-Men[/url]
k whatevaa.
Ya ALLAH Madad.
Haq Chaar Yaar
I hereby place Med under my protection.
Sorry I've been intensively reading seerah over the past few days. (need to hop over to Minhaj forums and call Revolutionist son of my mother-in Islam
)
But seriously some people (Razor) seem to be how should I put it...trying to tell Med he's a fool.
You need to cut it out, people have feelings.
That reminds me of a story, one of the men of Quraysh was old and decided not to go to the battle of Badr until someone came up to him with some incense and said "scent yourself with some of this because thou art of the women!"
Lol.
Gentleness and kindness were never a part of anything except that it made it beautiful, and harshness was never a part of anything except that it made it ugly.
Through cheating, stealing, and lying, one may get required results but finally one becomes
Salaam
Guys I’ve pointed out above that the point of the story isn’t that every Muslim couple should aspire to follow in their footsteps…
Rather, we should look at their intentions and try to encapsulate the same level of extreme love for our Creator into our lives too…
The story to me is about sacrifice and proving that one prefers God to their own selves….Do not get bogged down with the details of the story. Whether the way they acted was right or wrong is debatable and a totally separate issue.
Hadrat Awais Karni broke all his teeth just because he heard that one tooth of the Holy Prophet
had broke in the battle of Uhud…The point of this story isn’t that we should all break our teeth too…but that we should also try to follow the sunnah of the Holy Prophet 
as much as we can into our lives. Whether Hadrat Awais Karni was being “extreme” or wrong to intentionally bring harm to himself are details that are unnecessary that we shouldn’t get bogged down with.
When one is a true Lover, the norms of society do not apply to such an individual…For instance, Imam Malik NEVER wore shoes in the streets of Madina nor rode on an animal simply and only out of extreme respect for the city that the Holy Prophet
lived in…..once again, its not the details and impracticality and danger of being barefooted that we should concern ourselves with.
But back to the original story…you know, sometimes when we want something so badly we spend months and months on the prayer mat begging Allah (swt) to give it to us…..but when we get that thing do we ever spend half as much time thanking Allah (swt) for that blessing?
That’s the thing…the couple in the story wanted to be with one another really badly and spent years begging Allah (swt) to destine them for one another…so when Allah (swt) granted their request they spent even MORE time thanking Allah (swt) on their prayer mat every night for making it happen…
The details IMO are irrelevant and not something that we should concern ourselves with. Whether they were right or wrong is something that only God Himself will decide.
Wasalaam
what a big deal has been made about one story that isnt even meant to be taken literally as an example for people to follow :roll:
but just for the sake of discussion-
celibacy is not forbidden in Islam many companions didnt not even marry
ftr after marriage celibacy is looked down upon...
I think we need to move on.
So two people found that the best way to thank Allah (swt).
It has been established that is not the norm, and nor can/should everyone aspire to it.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
I think its up to the couple what they decide to do
there's more to life
subhanallah. Imam Malik also as far as I can remember NEVER relieved himself in the Holy City of Madinah Munawwarah.
Of the recent past, the great alim of India, Hadrat Mawlana Qasim Nanautwi rahmatullahi alayh also did not wear shoes in Madinah Munawwarah.
Ya ALLAH Madad.
Haq Chaar Yaar
Dawud....maybe changing your name to 'peace' is a good idea...
i've realised you're doing that alot nowadays...good-good
Yeah you lot are probably right. But the thing is i was always told that there is a reason that we do something in islam and there evidence to alway suggest why we do it as well. So I can't understand why celibacy in marriage can ever be consider a praiseworthy act as the evidence from Quran and Sunnah indicate opposite, now the fact both couple agree on something is not really important too me.
See i understand about the point about Imam Malik not walking with his shoes in Madinah, as it a sign of respect. Nothing wrong with that as he showing his respect and there isn't anything that suggest doing so is wrong. But in marriage guideline have be given, if you look back at the history of the muslims most of the great muslims gave birth too very pious offsrping as well. I rather look at this action and praise that, if anything.
I sorry if i being ignorant and not being able to see the true meaning of the story, but i seriously can't.
"A true Muslim is thankful to Allah in prosperity, and resigned to His will in adversity."
[url=http//www.guidancemedia.com/videostream.php?id=Burda.mov]Quran[/url]
LOL
look yuit-sis quoted above that Awias karni broke all of his teeth
but instead of focusing on the fact that intentional self harm cant be right in Islam we should just focus on the extreme extent that he copied the Prophet (pbuh) actions
same way-it must be sunnah to procreate
but their act was praisworthy cos they didnt give into their desire cos they were too busy worshipping God
But shouldn't marriage be something where you should give in too ur desire. This desire is part of the bigger plan ain't it. To expand the ummah and is need for there to be future generations. The other example are different IMO.
"A true Muslim is thankful to Allah in prosperity, and resigned to His will in adversity."
[url=http//www.guidancemedia.com/videostream.php?id=Burda.mov]Quran[/url]
yuit
big friggin deal if the husband and wife chose not to give into their desires and contribute to the Muslim Ummah
there's more to life :roll:
I'm sure just cos that couple never had any kids the Muslim ummah wasnt effected in any major way
obvioulsy it be wrong if EVERYONE did that
but (un)fortunalty people lack self control
Nah i don't think it got anything to do with self control personally. Most of the promiment sahabi were married more then once, I read somewhere Hazrat Ali (ra) had over 30 kids, this isn't the only case as well, loads of sahabi had loads of kids and so did the past great muslims. The prophet
was married to many wives as well. So if anything, the example set seem to imply that relation within marriage are very important, there various hadith that are mention which go into the subject abit more deeply, but as this is a mixed islamic forum, i think i rather not go into it. But too me this shows me the important of such action within marriage.
"A true Muslim is thankful to Allah in prosperity, and resigned to His will in adversity."
[url=http//www.guidancemedia.com/videostream.php?id=Burda.mov]Quran[/url]
some sahaba didnt marry
they claimed that marraige would take them away from worship of God
reference? (only asking cos that goes against some clear-cut hadith...)
Thing is if one does not get married, and is celibate, that is acceptable/a good thing.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
cant remember at the top of my head-I'll tell u later when I dig out my notebooks
but I know Rabia Basri never married
Salam
Those who try but still cannot find a good woman they should remain celibate.
For it is true that a bad woman does indeed take you away from the ways of your Lord.
Omrow
Hadrat Rabia Basria performed her duties when she was a slave-girl.
Upon gaining her freedom she received many marriage proposals but set questions to the suitors and wanted satisfactory answers to these questions before she would marry. I cannot remember specifically what the questions were but they were along the lines of will I receive my book of deeds in right or left hand/ will my end be the paradise or the hell? etc
Obviously no1 can answer these qsns and so she didnt accept the proposals.
Point being that she was soo worried abt her condition and abt her akhirah that she was literally not able to marry or think abt marriage.
Some might say that Hadrat was taking this to an extreme and that does this mean that those great people who marry have any less worry about their akhirah? The answer is obviously no. Everyone deals with things in their own way - some wen grieving sit and cry, others busy themselves cleaning the house, others take to escapism etc. Similarly humans have different ways of coping with this world and their worry abt akhirah is dealt with differently - some marry and live a supposedly ''worldly'' life, others cut themselves off from everyone, others drown themselves in pursuit of knowledge, others strive in the battlesfield etc.
Alhamdulillah everything is good.
Ya ALLAH Madad.
Haq Chaar Yaar
Salaam
Ibn Taymiyyah never married, nor did Imam An-Nawawi.
Imam Al-Nawawi was once told that marriage is a great sunnah and it is perhaps the only sunnah he had not fulfilled. His reply was, 'I fear that I may follow one sunnah and thereby get involved in many forbidden acts'."
Hadrat Rabia Basri never married for this reason either.
So, yes some people did not marry as they feared that it would take them away from the worship of God.
However, the overall stance of the Sufis is not that marriage should be renounced… The TRUE Sufi is the one who buys, sells, meets others, visits the markets etc but never forgets Allah (swt) for a single moment.
Wasalaam
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