Wine Vinegar in Sandwiches/Salads - Haraam?

Published by Allahuakbar on 25 January, 2009 - 14:14

Salaam

This issue may affect a few people who come on this website, although they may not know about it. I have noticed in the ingredients of many pre-packed sandwiches and salads (which have an ingredients label on them) that some contain WHITE WINE VINEGAR and RED WINE VINEGAR, as well as SPIRIT vinegar.

Are these haraam because it is/derived from wine, or is it permissable because it is vinegar? I do remember a Hadith of the Prophet(saw) about alcohol: "Whatever intoxicates in greater quantity is forbidden even in smaller quantity".

Any info would be appreciated. Thanks.

Submitted by sbf (not verified) on 25 January, 2009 - 14:20

I heard it was wrong to have vinegar itself. But I'm not exactly sure.

Submitted by You on 25 January, 2009 - 15:27

Vinegar is sunnah.

Wine vinegar is vinegar.

Nothing wrong with it at all.

Further, vinegar can be classed as soured/gone off wine. It's all chemistry.

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Submitted by sbf (not verified) on 25 January, 2009 - 16:34

You wrote:
Vinegar is sunnah.

Wine vinegar is vinegar.

Nothing wrong with it at all.

Further, vinegar can be classed as soured/gone off wine. It's all chemistry.

Thanks for clarifying that.

Submitted by Allahuakbar on 25 January, 2009 - 21:55

You wrote:
Vinegar is sunnah.

Wine vinegar is vinegar.

Nothing wrong with it at all.

Further, vinegar can be classed as soured/gone off wine. It's all chemistry.

Lol, are you sure? That's good news if it is, means I don't have to give up those tasty sarnies. How is vinegar Sunnah?

Is there any alcohol in vinegar at all?

Thanks for the info by the way!!

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Submitted by Ya'qub on 25 January, 2009 - 21:58

Allahuakbar wrote:

Is there any alcohol in vinegar at all?

There is alcohol in bread, and most fruit too!

But it's halal cos it occurs naturally.

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Submitted by You on 25 January, 2009 - 22:14

vinegar in alcohol will turn the whole thing into vinegar.

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Submitted by You on 25 January, 2009 - 23:08

A couple of alternative views on white wine vinegar:

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They disagree...

According to one of the questions in the first link:

By and large, dear questioner, it’s clear from the above-mentioned statements and quotations that so long as vinegar originates from wine directly, without the aid of any additives, it is lawful according to the unanimous view of scholars. As for the vinegar that originates from wine through human interference, it’s somehow controversial among scholars, as you can see.

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Submitted by The Lamp on 26 January, 2009 - 12:08

Thanks man!

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Submitted by big bro on 26 January, 2009 - 12:44

I love vinegar. I slosh it on anything. sherry vinegar is really nice in salads.

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Submitted by You on 26 January, 2009 - 14:05

yup.

Organic chemistry.

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Submitted by The Lamp on 28 January, 2009 - 09:55

Why? You shouldn't randomly click on the page.

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Submitted by Allahuakbar on 28 January, 2009 - 10:17

The Lamp wrote:
Why? You shouldn't randomly click on the page.

Why not? I did. What are you afraid of?

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Submitted by sbf (not verified) on 28 January, 2009 - 15:03

big bro wrote:
I love vinegar.

Me too! I like drowning my chips in vinegar!:D

Submitted by big bro on 28 January, 2009 - 16:27

sbf wrote:
big bro wrote:
I love vinegar.

Me too! I like drowning my chips in vinegar!:D

True very true. Chips only taste better when soaked in vinegar.

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Submitted by You on 28 January, 2009 - 19:14

From this :

Jabir narrated, "The Messenger of Allah, peace be upon him, took me one day with him to his house. He was served some bread. He asked: 'Is there any dip?' They replied 'No, only some vinegar.' He said, 'Vinegar is a good dip.'

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Jabir used to say, "I have loved vinegar since I heard it from Allah’s Prophet". And Talhah ibn Naf'a said, "I have loved vinegar since I heard it from Jabir."
[Muslim, Abu Dawud, Nasa’i]

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