I don't know the rules on this, but alcohol used in the production of dry goods (and it is only the flavouring) would evaporate so you wouldn't be ingesting more than the tiniest traces. I think you'll find there's far more alcohol in an orange or tangerine.
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The past is an old armchair in the attic, the present an ominous ticking sound, and the future is anybody's guess.
James Thurber
Didn't read the whole article, but there are diff types of alcohol, and it mentioned that it is a small amount so *stuffs face with Thai sweet chili crisps*
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' Nay, verily! With me is my Lord, He will guide me ' {2662}
Not sure if it is haraam - afterall vinegar is halaal and I would expect any remaining "alcohol" to have soured during the cooking process... still need a scholars opinion.
PS the alcohol family is toxic to human consumption. Ethanol is the one with the least reaction - just drunkeness. All the others are potentially lethal.
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People say nothing is impossible, but I do nothing every day.
This is a tough one... but I would probably still eat it because-like some people have said- there are things with very tiny amounts of alcohol in it which could be considered halal. However, I am annoyed at the walkers crips for not making it obvious that there is alcohol in it because there will be some people that are upset about this.
—
In the Name Of God the Most Gracious The Most Merciful.
By the morning light, and by the night when it is still. Your Lord has not forsaken you, nor does he hate you. Sura 93:1-4
The only One who can get you close to God is GOD Alone Allahuakbar! I
things with alcohol - even a tiny drop - added to them are NOT considered halaal.
The question is whether there still is alcohol in them or not.
From what I have read, it seems this is about the "Sensations" range. Is this true, or all crisps from Walkers? i rather like the cheese and Onion flavour... maybe I will give them a miss.
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People say nothing is impossible, but I do nothing every day.
Bread also contains alcohol; so does numerous other foods such as fruit. I personally don't feel its an issue especially since the amount of alcohol is so little and as another member pointed out such a small amount probably would have evaporated. Another thing, alcohol does not neccessarily mean the drink that intoxicates people, it can just be a mixture of compounds (CnH2n+1OH) - which is basically just made up of carbon, hyrdrogen and oxygent atoms. What is bothering me though is the amount of articles being written on this matter with the headlines "muslims furious at the alcohol content in walkers"... Muslims are not the only ones who abstain from alcohol and not all muslims are reacting in an angry manner, but such articles are prompting hostility from non-muslims and enforcing the view that we muslims can not adapt to living in this country. Quite a few non-muslim friends pointed out to me that if muslims are so against alcohol than why do the majority sell them in their newsagents/shops?
@ Alisha and Farooq
I cant believe you think its no big deal if there is only a small amount of alcohol in the crisps. Its like saying its ok to eat chips that have been fried in animal fat oil or sweets with gelatine as long as you say bismillah on them (i have know ppl to do this)!!!!!
Kit Kats, Yorkies, and other contraband products for strict Muslims
The news that some Walkers Crisps contain alcohol has disturbed Muslims who bought the snacks believing them to be halal. Some Muslim groups have threatened to boycott the company.
Here's a list of other products that Muslims have to be careful to avoid to comply with the dietary requirements of Islam.
Cheese Quavers; Cheesy Monster Munch; Savoury Cheese Snaps; Walkers - Cheese & Onion Crisps, Cheese & Onion Lites, Tomato Ketchup Crisps, MAX Hard Cheese & Onion, Kettle Chips Yoghurt and Green Onion.
More surprisingly perhaps these products from The Body Shop are alleged to contain by-products from the meat industry: Bath Beads – all varieties, Bath Bubbles – Cola, Forest Jelly, Ice Cream, Satsuma, Strawberry; Hawthorn Hand Cream; Shampoo – Mint & Thyme, Orange Oat, Seaweed & Peony; Tea Tree Oil Facial Wash
And finally Kellogg's Pop Tarts which quite frankly should be haram (forbidden) for everyone.
The products listed contain Gelatine (derived from skin, tendon, ligaments, and bones of animals which may not have been slaughtered according to halal practice) or Rennet, derived from calves stomachs and used in cheese making. Whey powder is produced when cheese is made using rennet. If rennet is taken from animals slaughted according to Islamic law it is halal, but abstinence from rennet is often advised to be on the safe side.
Joanna Sugden
Posted by Joanna Sugden on February 22, 2008 in Haram products Times
but but.. alcohol in perfume and food is used as an emulsifier (for those who dont know what emulsifier is: a substance which stops the other mixtures in a product from seperating)..
so technically.. it is not haraam.. and + its not the actual alcohol is it.. isnt it ethanol? the distilled version created by fermentation?!
—
The Holy Prophet says
"There is a polish for everything that takes away rust; and the polish for the heart is the remembrance of Allah."
(Bukhari)
isnt it ethanol? the distilled version created by fermentation?!
Ethanol is haraam at least for consumption. The other alcohols are not necessarily so. perfumes etc do not use ethanol. I think some brands may use propanol.
—
People say nothing is impossible, but I do nothing every day.
isnt it ethanol? the distilled version created by fermentation?!
Ethanol is haraam at least for consumption. The other alcohols are not necessarily so. perfumes etc do not use ethanol. I think some brands may use propanol.
Achaaa... thnx 4 tellin me...
perfumes use alcohol denat.. is that wrong?
—
The Holy Prophet says
"There is a polish for everything that takes away rust; and the polish for the heart is the remembrance of Allah."
(Bukhari)
It is denaturalised alcohol - alcohol (which may or may not have been ethanol) that has been chemically altered to stop possibility of it being used for beverages. So IMO it could come under the same category as things like vinegar (which has been used by the Prophet , so you can call it a sunnah to use it.)
They use it to avoid paying extra taxes.
Either I am really good, or Google is...
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People say nothing is impossible, but I do nothing every day.
2 August 2005
7 weeks 2 days
hmmmmmmmmmmm
all my fav crisps?
great.
dont believe it tho!
The Lover is ever drunk with love;
He is free, he is mad,
He dances with ecstasy and delight.
Caught by our own thoughts,
We worry about every little thing,
But once we get drunk on that love,
Whatever will be, will be.
ɐɥɐɥ
2 August 2007
34 min 41 sec
I don't know the rules on this, but alcohol used in the production of dry goods (and it is only the flavouring) would evaporate so you wouldn't be ingesting more than the tiniest traces. I think you'll find there's far more alcohol in an orange or tangerine.
The past is an old armchair in the attic, the present an ominous ticking sound, and the future is anybody's guess.
James Thurber
4 April 2006
3 min 3 sec
think about all the weight you'll lose!
8 October 2005
2 weeks 4 days
Didn't read the whole article, but there are diff types of alcohol, and it mentioned that it is a small amount so *stuffs face with Thai sweet chili crisps*
' Nay, verily! With me is my Lord, He will guide me ' {2662}
24 June 2005
1 min 53 sec
It is not the amount that matters.
Not sure if it is haraam - afterall vinegar is halaal and I would expect any remaining "alcohol" to have soured during the cooking process... still need a scholars opinion.
PS the alcohol family is toxic to human consumption. Ethanol is the one with the least reaction - just drunkeness. All the others are potentially lethal.
People say nothing is impossible, but I do nothing every day.
21 November 2006
4 hours 17 min
Ethanol is lethal too!
The frown of a friend is better than the smile of a fool.
30 December 2007
15 weeks 4 days
This is a tough one... but I would probably still eat it because-like some people have said- there are things with very tiny amounts of alcohol in it which could be considered halal. However, I am annoyed at the walkers crips for not making it obvious that there is alcohol in it because there will be some people that are upset about this.
In the Name Of God the Most Gracious The Most Merciful.
By the morning light, and by the night when it is still. Your Lord has not forsaken you, nor does he hate you. Sura 93:1-4
The only One who can get you close to God is GOD Alone Allahuakbar! I
24 June 2005
1 min 53 sec
things with alcohol - even a tiny drop - added to them are NOT considered halaal.
The question is whether there still is alcohol in them or not.
From what I have read, it seems this is about the "Sensations" range. Is this true, or all crisps from Walkers? i rather like the cheese and Onion flavour... maybe I will give them a miss.
People say nothing is impossible, but I do nothing every day.
13 August 2006
4 hours 53 min
Oh no! I hope this isn't true as I love my crisps. If it is, I hope they do something about it. Very quickly.
Bread also contains alcohol; so does numerous other foods such as fruit. I personally don't feel its an issue especially since the amount of alcohol is so little and as another member pointed out such a small amount probably would have evaporated. Another thing, alcohol does not neccessarily mean the drink that intoxicates people, it can just be a mixture of compounds (CnH2n+1OH) - which is basically just made up of carbon, hyrdrogen and oxygent atoms. What is bothering me though is the amount of articles being written on this matter with the headlines "muslims furious at the alcohol content in walkers"... Muslims are not the only ones who abstain from alcohol and not all muslims are reacting in an angry manner, but such articles are prompting hostility from non-muslims and enforcing the view that we muslims can not adapt to living in this country. Quite a few non-muslim friends pointed out to me that if muslims are so against alcohol than why do the majority sell them in their newsagents/shops?
24 June 2005
1 min 53 sec
Bread is a different case - alcohol is not an additive, but the yeast that is used creates it.
As I said before, best to ask a scholar about this instead of making our own verdicts which may (or may not) lead to sin.
People say nothing is impossible, but I do nothing every day.
24 June 2005
2 hours 46 min
hmm
No big deal. I dont even remember the last time I had walkers crisps.
Pringles all the way... once you pop you cant stop.
nosce te ipsum
10 October 2005
13 hours 11 min
@ Alisha and Farooq
I cant believe you think its no big deal if there is only a small amount of alcohol in the crisps. Its like saying its ok to eat chips that have been fried in animal fat oil or sweets with gelatine as long as you say bismillah on them (i have know ppl to do this)!!!!!
Alcohol is haraam full stop!
No not the gum drop buttons! – Gingy
21 November 2006
4 hours 17 min
"Alcohol is haraam full stop!"
That's not a full stop, it's an exclamation mark!
But I agree with your point.
The frown of a friend is better than the smile of a fool.
24 June 2005
1 min 53 sec
But not the line?
People say nothing is impossible, but I do nothing every day.
19 August 2007
8 weeks 2 days
Yeah, alcohol is Haram. BUT......... in bread it evaporates doesn't it? I would imagine same goes for crisps? Hey, is there a scholar in the house?
Chin up, mate! Life's too short.
24 June 2005
1 min 53 sec
Is there a definitive list of which flavours/ranges use alcohol?
I really want to eat Walkers MAX Cheese and Onion flavour... and that article mentions:
People say nothing is impossible, but I do nothing every day.
4 April 2006
3 min 3 sec
Kit Kats, Yorkies, and other contraband products for strict Muslims
The news that some Walkers Crisps contain alcohol has disturbed Muslims who bought the snacks believing them to be halal. Some Muslim groups have threatened to boycott the company.
Here's a list of other products that Muslims have to be careful to avoid to comply with the dietary requirements of Islam.
Nutella Hazelnut Chocolate Spread, Ferrero Rocher Chocolates, Bounty Milk Miniatures; Celebration; Funsize – Mars, Milky Way, Snickers; Galaxy Caramel Swirls and M&M’s Peanut, Milky Way Crispy Rolls, Milky Way; Twix Kingsize, Aero – Milk chocolate, Orange, Peppermint; Animal Bar; Black Magic – Caramel, Hazel Cluster, Hazel in Caramel; Blue Ribband; Breakaway – Milk Camarac and Milk Chocolate; Caramac; Dairy Box – Almond Fayre, Autumn Hazelnut, Caramel Classic, Country Fudge, Nut Swirl, Strawberry Fool, Toffee Cup, Turkish Delight, Vanilla Truffle, Wafer Sandwich; Golden Cup; Kit Kat; Lion Bar; Matchmakers – Coconut, Mint, Orange; Milkybar White Chocolate Mini Eggs; Munchies; Quality Street – Caramel Cup, Coconut Éclair, Dairy Fudge, Fruit & Nut Delight, Hazelnut Éclair, Hazelnut in Caramel, Milk chocolate Hazelnut, Noisette Triangle, Toffee Deluxe, Toffee Fingers, Vanilla Octagon; Rolo Bar; Rolo; Smarties – orange only; Walnut whip – Vanilla; Yorkie – Milk Chocolate, Nutter, Raisin & Biscuit. Kraft Singles Cheese Food Slices
Cheese Quavers; Cheesy Monster Munch; Savoury Cheese Snaps; Walkers - Cheese & Onion Crisps, Cheese & Onion Lites, Tomato Ketchup Crisps, MAX Hard Cheese & Onion, Kettle Chips Yoghurt and Green Onion.
More surprisingly perhaps these products from The Body Shop are alleged to contain by-products from the meat industry: Bath Beads – all varieties, Bath Bubbles – Cola, Forest Jelly, Ice Cream, Satsuma, Strawberry; Hawthorn Hand Cream; Shampoo – Mint & Thyme, Orange Oat, Seaweed & Peony; Tea Tree Oil Facial Wash
And finally Kellogg's Pop Tarts which quite frankly should be haram (forbidden) for everyone.
The products listed contain Gelatine (derived from skin, tendon, ligaments, and bones of animals which may not have been slaughtered according to halal practice) or Rennet, derived from calves stomachs and used in cheese making. Whey powder is produced when cheese is made using rennet. If rennet is taken from animals slaughted according to Islamic law it is halal, but abstinence from rennet is often advised to be on the safe side.
Joanna Sugden
Posted by Joanna Sugden on February 22, 2008 in Haram products Times
21 November 2006
4 hours 17 min
How ironic...
The frown of a friend is better than the smile of a fool.
24 June 2005
1 min 53 sec
It would be good to get those classified by reason. For hanafi's it is allowed to consume rennet, as mention in the mag and also:
http://www.gmwa.org.uk/foodguide2/index.php?page=viewquestion&id=20
EDIT according to the same lot there is nothing wrong:
http://www.gmwa.org.uk/foodguide2/index.php?page=viewquestion&id=215
take it with a pinch of salt if you like.
People say nothing is impossible, but I do nothing every day.
14 January 2008
2 days 3 hours
*Shock*
No Way..!!!
but but.. alcohol in perfume and food is used as an emulsifier (for those who dont know what emulsifier is: a substance which stops the other mixtures in a product from seperating)..
so technically.. it is not haraam.. and + its not the actual alcohol is it.. isnt it ethanol? the distilled version created by fermentation?!
The Holy Prophet
says
"There is a polish for everything that takes away rust; and the polish for the heart is the remembrance of Allah."
(Bukhari)
14 January 2008
2 days 3 hours
Whats left that we cant eat?!
All the ones above are the chocolates i love!
[..*upset*..]
The Holy Prophet
says
"There is a polish for everything that takes away rust; and the polish for the heart is the remembrance of Allah."
(Bukhari)
24 June 2005
1 min 53 sec
Ethanol is haraam at least for consumption. The other alcohols are not necessarily so. perfumes etc do not use ethanol. I think some brands may use propanol.
People say nothing is impossible, but I do nothing every day.
14 January 2008
2 days 3 hours
Achaaa... thnx 4 tellin me...
perfumes use alcohol denat.. is that wrong?
The Holy Prophet
says
"There is a polish for everything that takes away rust; and the polish for the heart is the remembrance of Allah."
(Bukhari)
4 April 2006
3 min 3 sec
yah as long as you don't drink them.
24 June 2005
1 min 53 sec
It is allowed.
It is denaturalised alcohol - alcohol (which may or may not have been ethanol) that has been chemically altered to stop possibility of it being used for beverages. So IMO it could come under the same category as things like vinegar (which has been used by the Prophet
, so you can call it a sunnah to use it.)
They use it to avoid paying extra taxes.
Either I am really good, or Google is...
People say nothing is impossible, but I do nothing every day.
14 January 2008
2 days 3 hours
Achaaa... Thnx 4 thee info Nooori and You
Google's Good
Nahh Im Messing..
Course YOU Are..
The Holy Prophet
says
"There is a polish for everything that takes away rust; and the polish for the heart is the remembrance of Allah."
(Bukhari)
21 November 2006
4 hours 17 min
Why do some people pronounce 'crisps' as 'crips'?
I wanna punch them when they do that, and I am usually not a violent person.
The frown of a friend is better than the smile of a fool.
29 June 2005
10 weeks 1 day
would they be the same people who say 'she learned me to read'?
28 October 2005
1 week 4 days
Awww that was awfully kind of her.
People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid.