State Funded Muslim Schools

State Funded Muslim Schools

British schooling has been mis-educating and de-educating Muslim children for the last 50 years and for the first time the Muslim leadership openly declared that British school is a home of institutional racism where there is no place for foreign culture and languages. Institutional racism is depriving Muslim children of the chance to go to their own faith schools. It leads LEAs to reject or delay approval of Muslim schools. Policy makers like Mr. Graham Lane and others like him do not want to see even a single Muslim school in the United Kingdom. The British teachers have no respect for Islamic faith and Muslim community. Western education system can easily deprogram Muslim children and force them to adopt un-Islamic values. Let the Muslim parents decides how and where to educate their children. According to MORI social research institute on behalf of Bristol LEA, nine out of ten Muslim parents agreed with the model of an Islamic secondary school set up within the state system. I rejected British schooling for Muslim children in the early 70s.

A child who has English as a second language is seen as having a special need – not as having a skill to be lauded from the rooftops. Bilingual children think in different way. Language has a profound effect in shaping the ways people think and act. Certain concepts are embedded in words that do not translate. There are repertoires of phrases which exist in Arabic or Urdu because there is no English equivalent. State schools are slaughter houses and are not suitable for bilingual Muslim children. Muslim children in the UK may lose out when they join reception classes because the school’s values and language reflect those of the dominant native culture, rather than those of their home. Almost all recent research literature agrees that if you want children whose home language is not English to excel in English –medium schools, it is important to nurture and acknowledge that first language along side their English development. Cultivating bilingualism could and should promote pupil’s linguistic development. Muslim children need bilingual Muslim teachers as role models.

Taxpayers’ money spent on schools should be handed to parents as vouchers to be used for their children’s education as they wished. Funds may be given to parents to set up their own schools. Lady Uddin argues strongly for the benefits of faith-based schooling, rejecting claims made in reports on the 2001 riots in Oldham, Burnley and Bradford that polarised schooling contributed to community division. Culturally separate groups, communities and institutions do not have to be the causes of social instability. There are hundreds of state schools where Muslim pupils are in majority, all such schools may be designated as Muslim community schools to be managed and controlled by Muslim Educational Trust and Charities.
Iftikhar Ahmad

This is because the non muslims think that by having muslim schools in Britain it would seperate and divide the two communities.

Someone who is educated and raised in a Muslim school will almost be like a foreigner to the western and British society.

This is a tough one to decide because im in favour of having Islamic schools. But on the other hand the British see it as a threat and by doing this will divide the muslim community even further apart from the non muslim community.

The way non muslim see it, is that muslims are not integrating as much as any other ethnic minority is. We keep ourselves to ourselves we don't eat the same food as them, do the same social things as they do like drinking, dress differently, follow a different religion, sometimes speak a different language to them, they feel alienated from us and vice versa. By have more Islamic schools it will divide the two communities even further apart.

There should be a few Islamic schools but not too many, its quality not quantity. I personally think there are too many masjids in muslim communities. The muslim area in my town has about 6 masjids and two more are being built.
In Islam it say that you should only build another masjid if the existing masjids cannot accommodate the worshipppers. Unfortunately i am not seeing that at ja'maat time only a few lines get filled.
So i dont see the reason why we should build masjids after masjids like its pakistan or Arabia and overall its gonna cheese the non muslims of even more.

Islam is the Key to paradise but without practice it won't open the gates.

Speaking of muslim schools theres a boys madrassah in Tinsley, Sheffield called Jamia Al Huda. I didnt knw it was there at first and only found it by chance - subhanALLAH its literally 4 minutes walking distance from my house there.

Alhamdulillah went there and had a fantastic time. Make dua that ALLAH grant success day and night to the ulama and talaba there - ameen.

They teach deeni ta'leem in the morning and in the afternoon it's national curriculum. They have some top ulama doing a lot of effort with the students.

Got a full tour of the Jamia - used to be a school so its perfect for its purpose. Beautiful Masjid, excellent Darut Tahfeedh ul Quran, science labs, computer labs, gyms, masses of fields, well furnished students hostels, and a very nice atmosphere. mashaALLAH. (yeh I got a tour :p)

Alhamdulillah met a number of the teachers; also got a chance to meet with the Principal Sahib who insisted that I eat before leaving (which I did) and looks like wen I move there in September inshaALLAH gonna have one meal a week with Principal Sahib - subhanALLAH.

May ALLAH grant aid from the Unseen to all lines of work related to Him ta'ala and accept us for service to it. ameen.

Ya ALLAH Madad.
Haq Chaar Yaar

"Med" wrote:
Speaking of muslim schools theres a boys madrassah in Tinsley, Sheffield called Jamia Al Huda. I didnt knw it was there at first and only found it by chance - subhanALLAH its literally 4 minutes walking distance from my house there.

Alhamdulillah went there and had a fantastic time. Make dua that ALLAH grant success day and night to the ulama and talaba there - ameen.

They teach deeni ta'leem in the morning and in the afternoon it's national curriculum. They have some top ulama doing a lot of effort with the students.

Got a full tour of the Jamia - used to be a school so its perfect for its purpose. Beautiful Masjid, excellent Darut Tahfeedh ul Quran, science labs, computer labs, gyms, masses of fields, well furnished students hostels, and a very nice atmosphere. mashaALLAH. (yeh I got a tour :p)

Alhamdulillah met a number of the teachers; also got a chance to meet with the Principal Sahib who insisted that I eat before leaving (which I did) and looks like wen I move there in September inshaALLAH gonna have one meal a week with Principal Sahib - subhanALLAH.

May ALLAH grant aid from the Unseen to all lines of work related to Him ta'ala and accept us for service to it. ameen.

ameen

Islam is the Key to paradise but without practice it won't open the gates.

"kas" wrote:
Someone who is educated and raised in a Muslim school will almost be like a foreigner to the western and British society.

not true. :roll:

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"kas" wrote:
Someone who is educated and raised in a Muslim school will almost be like a foreigner to the western and British society.

I am gonna regret saying this, but I went to an Islamic school. Did my GCSE's and A levels there.

I am not a foreigner to western and british society. That does not mean I want to socialise with everyone, but neither am I a stranger in society. Well not more than I want to be.

(remind me, which side am I arguing for? :twisted: )

"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.

"Admin" wrote:
I am gonna regret saying this, but I went to an Islamic school. Did my GCSE's and A levels there.
lol OMG really?! would never have guessed. Blum 3 but same here - i did my GCSEs at an islamic school. hence the 'not true' in reply to kas.

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"*DUST*" wrote:
would never have guessed. Blum 3

What does that mean? :evil:

Quote:
but same here - i did my GCSEs at an islamic school. hence the 'not true' in reply to kas.

It seems you made more of it than I did. Long slide into darkness for me since. forgotten too much. Acted on even less. tried to avoid learning in the first place to add to that!

Good to see others are better adjusted! Blum 3

"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.

"Admin" wrote:
"kas" wrote:
Someone who is educated and raised in a Muslim school will almost be like a foreigner to the western and British society.

I am gonna regret saying this, but I went to an Islamic school. Did my GCSE's and A levels there.

I am not a foreigner to western and british society. That does not mean I want to socialise with everyone, but neither am I a stranger in society. Well not more than I want to be.

(remind me, which side am I arguing for? :twisted: )

I meant that from a western point of view. Westerners generally think that someone who has been raised up in an Islamic school will have different ideas and values and will be 'almost like a foreigner'.
This is because people educated in Islamic schools will not be moulded as much as a kid at a normal school to think in a western context.
For example when i was at school and we did R.E i can only recall once when we studied about Islam. But in an Islamic school you will be studying Islam all the time and practicing it daily.

Alot of English people also think by having communties of heavy populated muslims together, like places in Leicester, Bradford, Burnley etc will help to create a barrier between the two races. Schools in these areas tend to have more asians and muslims than whites. This will alienate the muslim youngsters from the non muslim youngsters hence they both will grow up a world apart.

I believe there is some truth to this, we tend to stick together, actually its in human nature to stick together. if you go to places like Spain there will be some areas where the majority will be Brits for example.
We need to filter more and 'flap our wings' to other parts of the UK too. This is another aspect where the goverment thinks we are not integrating because we tend to all stick together in one area.

However i dont entirely agree.

Islam is the Key to paradise but without practice it won't open the gates.

"kas" wrote:

We need to filter more and 'flap our wings' to other parts of the UK too. This is another aspect where the goverment thinks we are not integrating because we tend to all stick together in one area.

I propose a group of us descend on a quaint english village and start the invasion of the countryside - whose with me? :twisted:

Ya ALLAH Madad.
Haq Chaar Yaar

Farmer Med, t'is not a bad idea

you like cows and sheep....better get used to it lol

The Lover is ever drunk with love;
He is free, he is mad,
He dances with ecstasy and delight.

Caught by our own thoughts,
We worry about every little thing,
But once we get drunk on that love,
Whatever will be, will be.

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