Inequalities

I don't understand why some muslim men treat their women with little respect, when in the Quran it states that men and women should both be treated equally. In theory I think that the Muslim religion itself is good, but maybe the Muslim people are interpreting their own religion wrong?
This muslim man on tv said; 'Our men are like gold, if you drop gold in mud, you can easily clean it, our women on the otherhand are like silk, if you drop silk in mud then you can clean it but the stains will still show'.
- This doesnt sound like the men think of their women as equal people.

Please give me your feedback and opinions on this Smile

religions.

"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.

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People will be people. No one's perfect.

Muslim guys who treat women badly obviously are either too big headed to accept they're not superior or they just don't know it.

Someone on twitter said the other day "I find it a bit flattering when people mistake me for a girl. If men knew status Allah has given to women, even men would want to be women ;)"

"How many people find fault in what they're reading and the fault is in their own understanding" Al Mutanabbi

ThE pOwEr Of SiLeNcE wrote:
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People will be people. No one's perfect.

Muslim guys who treat women badly obviously are either too big headed to accept they're not superior or they just don't know it.

Someone on twitter said the other day "I find it a bit flattering when people mistake me for a girl. If men knew status Allah has given to women, even men would want to be women ;)"

Some guys just don't know, they've been raised in that enviroment, never seeing the full picture of treating women well. All they've seen is the ill treatment and superior male figures surrounding them, setting the 'ultimate' example and they typically aspire to become like such people and lose their moral compass along the way. and you might think the younger generation would know better...sad to say it's not the case....being educated in the duniya can't make up for the manners and lessons the deen can teach you.

It's to do with culture mixing with religion and men 'thinking' they're pious but forgetting the most important quality in being kind to you're wives and daughters and indeed any sisters they come accross....when will such people see sense?...inshAllah they're guided to better ways, ameen.

Just like to add it's more down to the individual rather than blaming a religion or certain culture, every man and woman has to answer for themselves. I believe that Islam and the society itself in someway pushes the idea that men and women are equal so the individual has nobody to blame but themselves.

I see this alot myself though in certain individuals, the way they belittle their wives. Islam teaches you that your wife is your companion, someone who's their to help you yet some use them to vent out their frustration. I am not so blind to not see that men in general do belittle women in all other aspects of life too even they are 'just making a joke'.

This is not the teachings of anything but just plain ignorance and stupidness on the individuals behalf and it's nothing new, it's been like this since way before Islam. That's why Islam came though, to abolish all evil practices and if it were truly implemented in our lives than this sort of thing wouldn't exist. I don't mean to say it will be completely abandoned because people aren't perfect but the idea in general shouldn't exist.

Lets reunite the ummah under one flag LA ILAHA IL ALLAH MUHAMMADUR RASULULLAH

Well maybe it's up to us to speak out and challenge these practices.
Maybe they don't even realise that they're doing it, maybe they are ignorant. Maybe they actual get some positive reinforcement when they do behave like that.

By the way, what do we mean by "equal". Islam says that "Men are the protectors and providers of women" hence the inheritance rules.
But does equality mean that we treat men and women exaclty the same?
If an axe-wielding murdering rapist broke in, would it be bad to defend the women first?
What if someone gives their seat up for ladies (regardless of age)?

“Before death takes away what you are given, give away whatever there is to give.”

Mawlana Jalal ud Din Rumi

Men and women aren't equal in the sense that they are the same and should be treated exactly the same. They have been made complimentary to one another. So generally women are more empathetic whilst men have the physical sstrength and both are needed to look after each other.

I don't get the rapist question :s of course you should help the women from the rapist

The chair thing - I think some people would find that as being a nice gesture, whilst others would feel offended or something (why, I don't know? Just be thankful and take it or decline nicely! :/) perhaps thinking of it Islamically, it would be a decent thing to do as you're being kind to your wives/sisters.

There's also the macho-man look which some men probably aspire to be because it's like they're 'real' men but I think it's this kind of attitude which makes women inferior. And it makes men show less emotion etc and makes them think they can and should have the upper hand. And there are girls who will see nothing wrong with a majority of that kind of attitude (until maybe it affects them). I mean I know people who if they see a guy saying something lots of nice stuff and just generally being decent, they would just be like 'wth man up!'
So I think the definition of a 'real man' may need to be redefIned.

Also the west claims to give freedom to women when in fact life over here is still pretty much patriarchal and women seem to need to have more typically male traits to get far in life. Or work twice as hard to get to the same position! People need to embrace their natural traits which Islam states, instead of trying to be what they're not. That'd be real freedom. (I read this view the other day and I think it's generally true)

"How many people find fault in what they're reading and the fault is in their own understanding" Al Mutanabbi

Aleena95 wrote:

I don't understand why some muslim men treat their women with little respect,
when in the Quran it states that men and women should both be treated equally.
In theory I think that the Muslim religion itself is good,
but maybe the Muslim people are interpreting their own religion wrong?

You are half right.

Its only ordinary men who treat their women as rubbish.
Shia men love their women.
You dont hear shia females complaining that their husbands mistreat them.
Shia Islam is the real truth and those who follow it they love and honour our females.
This is what Quran teaches, and this is what our Holy Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) gave us.

I have already stated the position of Shia women on my facebook page, as on blog pages.

Read some of them here on my Revival posts.

SHIA SISTERS

Shias Value Females

Females Highly Valued

THE FULL BLOG:

by the way,

Nowruz Mubarak to Everyone.

Iran and many other muslim countries are celebrating the blessed day.

Ayatollah rightly named America as "Great Satan".

Jerin Sultana Begum wrote:

I think the best example of women being treated fairly is in the case of Adam(as) and his beloved Hawwa(Eve). She was made from the ribcage bone of Adam (as). A bone that protects his heart as a women should (from sinful things). She was made from a bone that is not below him (like the pelvis or leg) above him (from his head). She was made from a bone close to his heart as a woman should be. Very analytical (and a bit geeky i s'pose) but thats what i've picked up on.

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Actually, I've never seen it that way- glad you pointed that out. Wink

“Before death takes away what you are given, give away whatever there is to give.”

Mawlana Jalal ud Din Rumi

The Lamp wrote:
Jerin Sultana Begum wrote:

I think the best example of women being treated fairly is in the case of Adam(as) and his beloved Hawwa(Eve). She was made from the ribcage bone of Adam (as). A bone that protects his heart as a women should (from sinful things). She was made from a bone that is not below him (like the pelvis or leg) above him (from his head). She was made from a bone close to his heart as a woman should be. Very analytical (and a bit geeky i s'pose) but thats what i've picked up on.

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Actually, I've never seen it that way- glad you pointed that out. Wink

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