btw....as far as im concerned burning quranic ayahs and ahadeeth is the best way...

mosques do that aswell...

"Med" wrote:

"naj" wrote:

"Aasiyah" wrote:

"Med" wrote:

Thats why Mrs Med 1, Mrs Med 2, Mrs Med 3 are gonna be dripping in gold, Mrs Med 4 aint.

wadya mean 'Mrs. Med'... :roll: Muslim women are meant to keep their own surname after marriage yaknow...

yea....if thats true im disappointed.

which bit specifically is disappointing? The lack of gold for my Mrs Med 4 or that according to aasiyah the muslim women are meant to keep their family name even after marriage?

you know i dislike to be dripped in gold,.....i was talking about keeping family name...

"naj" wrote:

btw....as far as im concerned burning quranic ayahs and ahadeeth is the best way...

mosques do that aswell...

I have edited my previous post.

I dunno whats wrong with me, recently I keep making silly mistakes, I;m getting a bit worried.

Your post above just reminded me that actually it is permitted to burn cos thats how I was told to dispose of some islamic literature by Ustadji a few months back.

Astaghfirullah that completely slipped from my mind.

I was instructed they shouldnt be burned the way u burn normal stuff, ie just chuck em in a fire. Ustadji told me to burn a tiny bit and let the ash fall on a plate, then burn a bit more, let ash fall and keep going like that until the whole papers are burnt and alll the ash is collected. I dunno the fiqh but Ustadji goes I shouldnt have it just burning randomly all on its own, it should be done slowly and respectfully. Plus collected ash I had to put into a bag along with some rice and chuck into the stream between our house and madrassah .

(rice was to weigh down the bag with ashes)

"naj" wrote:

you know i dislike to be dripped in gold,.....i was talking about keeping family name...

See, I remember once you said you werent gonna change ur name after marriage, u were gonna stay whatever ur name is now. So now y u disappointed if islamically u cant be mrs whoever?

isnt that what u wanted?

"Med" wrote:

My saying it shouldnt be in the house was not literal it was metaphorical; point being that in my view books by certain people lead to much confusion in simple peoples minds- trust me I speak from experience.

why? What happened to you?

:twisted:

"Admin" wrote:

"Med" wrote:

My saying it shouldnt be in the house was not literal it was metaphorical; point being that in my view books by certain people lead to much confusion in simple peoples minds- trust me I speak from experience.

why? What happened to you?

:twisted:

I had a flashback of my terrible past and that made me a bit quick to respond to that book.

"Med" wrote:

Your post above just reminded me that actually it is permitted to burn cos thats how I was told to dispose of some islamic literature by Ustadji a few months back.

A while back an Imam on a t.v programme (can't remember his name now) had a call about how to dispose of islamic literature.

He said "You can take it to your local Sainsbury's and put it the paper recycling boxes" :shock: :?

I didn't know what to make of it.

"Fatima" wrote:

A while back an Imam on a t.v programme (can't remember his name now) had a call about how to dispose of islamic literature.

He said "You can take it to your local Sainsbury's and put it the paper recycling boxes" :shock: :?

I didn't know what to make of it.

Heard this type of ruling before.

Personally its not what we been taught, the question was raised by some people and the answer received was that during this process there is no doubt that disrespect would occur so refrain from chucking Holy Pages into trash/recylce bins.

By all means recycle your other papers, thats brilliant but the few pages containing religious items should be dealt with respect.

"Med" wrote:

"naj" wrote:

you know i dislike to be dripped in gold,.....i was talking about keeping family name...

See, I remember once you said you werent gonna change ur name after marriage, u were gonna stay whatever ur name is now. So now y u disappointed if islamically u cant be mrs whoever?

isnt that what u wanted?

yeh naj, wots so 'disappointing' about keeping one's family name? it is the woman's right after all. (the only case in which it is haraam to change is if u r doing it with the intention of disregarding your lineage...)

http://qa.sunnipath.com/issue_view.asp?HD=1&ID=1986&CATE=121

"Med" wrote:

Personally its not what we been taught, the question was raised by some people and the answer received was that during this process there is no doubt that disrespect would occur so refrain from chucking Holy Pages into trash/recylce bins.

I was also not taught this, just wanted see if anyone else had heard of it to clear up any confusion.

"Aasiyah" wrote:

"Med" wrote:

"naj" wrote:

you know i dislike to be dripped in gold,.....i was talking about keeping family name...

See, I remember once you said you werent gonna change ur name after marriage, u were gonna stay whatever ur name is now. So now y u disappointed if islamically u cant be mrs whoever?

isnt that what u wanted?

yeh naj, wots so 'disappointing' about keeping one's family name? it is the woman's right after all. (the only case in which it is haraam to change is if u r doing it with the intention of disregarding your lineage...)

http://qa.sunnipath.com/issue_view.asp?HD=1&ID=1986&CATE=121

actually sometimes i think its a good idea to change ones name, get more closer to your next family...BUT then again i think staying afzal is the best
well it all depends on who you gonna be with for me.

im just chatting it.

You can change your name if you wish.

However it is your right to keep the original name.

"Admin" wrote:

I have deleted a few posts.

speaking of deleting stuff - u and PhantomMod hav a lil' bust-up last night? who deleted the Shaykh Qadri thread?

That is confidential.

If you saw our posts, you can probably guess.

I would rather people answer question than go all hushy hushy.

The complication was that razor had a razor to med's throat... and med was looking for a way to retaliate.

It was very mature of them both.

"Admin" wrote:

That is confidential.

If you saw our posts, you can probably guess.

hehe, yes i did see the posts...

oh, and Don was previously adamant that me and phantomMod were the same...

So he would have thought I had lost it!

(and congrats to him for ruining his life. RIP Dave. :P)

when he next comes to the UK, ask him.

PS According to him his beard IS Shar'ee.

I have listened to his speech on the topic recently.

"Admin" wrote:

when he next comes to the UK, ask him.

PS According to him his beard IS Shar'ee.

I have listened to his speech on the topic recently.

look forward to it.

He says his beard is shari'?

To ALLAH do we belong and to Him is our return.

I must confess I was very stooped in thought after visiting the various minhaj websites.

Fitnah has become widespread.

May ALLAH protect us from it.
ameen

what fitnah?

please do tell?

And are you now a scholar? I distinctly remember your opinion on scholars...

A shar'i beard is a beard that is accepted in Shariah as a beard.

And acording to the references I have heard his is alot bigger than the minimum required.

I know a brother who when getting into this argument came across with "I do not know why Imam shafi said such a thing. He was clearly wrong."

Lets hope youe Id has not grown so high since the boasting topic.

"Admin" wrote:

what fitnah?

please do tell?

And are you now a scholar? I distinctly remember your opinion on scholars...

A shar'i beard is a beard that is accepted in Shariah as a beard.

And acording to the references I have heard his is alot bigger than the minimum required.

I know a brother who when getting into this argument came across with "I do not know why Imam shafi said such a thing. He was clearly wrong."

Lets hope youe Id has not grown so high since the boasting topic.

what fitnah?

The fitnah of calling out to other than ALLAH and calling it a part of islam. This shirk is disgusting, I cant believe how so called muslims can be taken in by this.

Do they feel no shame in proclaiming loudly after every Namaz the Kalima Tayyibah, infact VERY loudly proclaiming the kalima, and then at the same time calling out to the creation of my ALLAH, my Khaliq and Malik?

They leave the court of ALLAH, Al Kahliq al Malik, and supplicate the creation?

This is the fitnah. This polytheism which the shaykh ul islams of today are selling to the people is indeed most depressing. My Nabi, my Master, Sayyidina Rasulullah salallahu alayhi wa sallam spent virtually the whole of the Makkan period preaching TAWHEED, risalah and akhirah and today those who have been given the laqab of shaykh ul islam, and His Eminence write books promoting shirk?

Would that I died before I saw such a day.

And about the beard, which references you on abt. My reference is the pictures of the Gentleman showing his beard is DEFINITELY NOT fist in length. The fistful begins from from the chin not the lower lip.

And regarding ulama. I pray ALLAH keep my mouth silent and my tongue dumb in abusing or slandering them, ameen.

But uncovering batil for batil has to be done. I pray ALLAH open up our eyes. ameen

what shirk?

How?

why?

where?

when?

proof?

and remember what it is like calling something that is not haraam haraam. Then think one step ahead of that: calling what is not haraam shirk...

I shall await your evidence... (and you know the burden of proof in on you. Remember khans1?)

keep waiting brother.

If any1 here cant see that statements calling out to people eg Ya Ali Madad, Ya Ghaws e Azam, Ya . . . .

as being shirkiya statements then I really have nothing to say to such people.

Yes, I know people can quote peoples rulings that Ya Ali Madad etc is permitted and islamic. That doesnt make a difference. Shirk is shirk, calling out is only for my ALLAH.

Why do people feel the need to call out to others, is ALLAH not able to hear your supplications?

Remember, deens very foundation is tawheed, if the foundation of people revolves around not tawheed but the grave. If the foundation revolves around death anniversaries, and fairs and melas at the graves. If the foundation relies on gaining the ''faiz'' of the inmates of the grave then your affair is with ALLAH, whoever you are.

Is the rahmah that descends in the masjid not enuf for ppl that they go seeking ''faiz'' at graves. The religion is tawheed, those who have set up the graves as their centres of blessings have gone wrong, majorly wrong.

May ALLAH protect us from the like thereof.

I aint interested in this topic further. I have said my piece, any1 want to call out to those who live in the fourth realm can do as they please, those who wish to refrain from this can do as they please. ALLAH does whatever is best.

"Med" wrote:

If any1 here cant see that statements calling out to people eg Ya Ali Madad, Ya Ghaws e Azam, Ya . . . .

err... and wot have shi'as got to do with Shaykh Qadri's beard??

"Aasiyah" wrote:

"Med" wrote:

If any1 here cant see that statements calling out to people eg Ya Ali Madad, Ya Ghaws e Azam, Ya . . . .

err... and wot have shi'as got to do with Shaykh Qadri's beard??

do u try being stupid or does it come naturally?

For your information the Ahlul Bidah are great lovers of sloganing with Ya Ali Madad. This is a fact.

Please tell me what the shi'tes have to do with Jenab Tahir ul Qadris facial growth.

Salam

We do call the Prophet in our five daily prayers.

Infact, we address him directly.

I feel sorry for idiots who have to say it grudgingly.

Salafies and Wahhabis would love to have that bit removed.

Sorry. Too late.

Omrow

"Med" wrote:

"Aasiyah" wrote:

"Med" wrote:

If any1 here cant see that statements calling out to people eg Ya Ali Madad, Ya Ghaws e Azam, Ya . . . .

err... and wot have shi'as got to do with Shaykh Qadri's beard??

do u try being stupid or does it come naturally?

For your information the Ahlul Bidah are great lovers of sloganing with Ya Ali Madad. This is a fact.

Please tell me what the shi'tes have to do with Jenab Tahir ul Qadris facial growth.

oh so now Minhaj are 'Ahlul Bidah' too?

and i have never heard a Sunni say 'Ya Ali Madad'... :roll:

i was referring to this post of yours:

"Med" wrote:

look forward to it.

He says his beard is shari'?

To ALLAH do we belong and to Him is our return.

I must confess I was very stooped in thought after visiting the various minhaj websites.

Fitnah has become widespread.

u went on to explain that the 'fitnah'='shirk' etc etc. and i was trying to point out that uv gone off on one of your tangents again - how on earth did u get from talking about someone's beard to shi'as and how they commit shirk?! :roll:

holy smokes!

I was talking abt the Ahlul Bidah and how the commit shirk.

If you havent come across any ''sunnis'' who say Ya Ali Madad then that is no fault of yours.

Tell one of your menfolk to come to the procession that Jamia Masjid Ghamkol Sharif, Golden Hillock Road, Small Heath Birmingham have for their death anniversary or for milad. There you will hear takbeer, followed by Ya Rasulullah, followed by Ya Ali Madad, followed by Ya Ghaws e Azam, followed Hazrat Zindapeer Zindabad. and if they feeling generous will every few screams shout out Haq Char Yaar.

Any1 who has been on this procession of innovation will bear witnes that these ''sunnis'' do slogan Ya Ali Madad.

You mention I went off on a tangent. Admin asked me what I was on abt when chatting abt fitnah, so my subsequent post was in response to his request for clarification.

No tangents involved.

Med, you seem to be very knowledgable in islam, But bro i still worry about you. Because for someone will the knowledge you have, you still focus too much on the action of other practicing muslims . Considering how many non practicing muslims we have at the moment, it suprise me why you would take that approach. Surely your main focus should be in this area, addressing the problem that destory many millions muslims life every year. Our job should be setting people onto the path of Allah swt, rather then focusing on the people who are already on there and pickig holes in them.

You keep bringing up the phrase shirk, there is no bigger sin then shirk so it a big deal when you accuse someone of this. You seem to be reading the intention of alot of muslims, which even yourself have to agree isn't right. Also why focus on someone beard for, when they doing so much good in bringing islam into people life. It a small minded position to take. Why don't you take the position of the like of Sahykh Ahmed Ali, who focus so much on tackling the ill of society and aiming a positive message too the youth. Too me that is a positive and it was his talks that made me understand and appreciate islam more. Having a negative approach gets u nowhere in life i found, people will simply ignore you and you can blame them if you want for being ignorant, but truthfully the blame will be with you.

"yuit" wrote:

Med, you seem to be very knowledgable in islam, But bro i still worry about you. Because for someone will the knowledge you have, [u]you still focus too much on the action of other practicing muslims [/u]

well isnt that in a way a good thing...talking of if you see someone clearly in the wrong making false statements shouldnt that problem be noted? or should it be ignored.You dont always need to focus to see people making mistakes.

nawt to do wiv topic.