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It is extremely harmful and detrimental to read ahadeeth without the guidance of a qualified teacher who has himself sat and learnt the ahadeeth and their meanings and application from qualified ulama before him.

Hence, we cannot read ahadeeth and derive the fiqhi ruling from that. For rulings of fiqh kindly refer to the fiqh manuals which are widely available and can be read by general public. Amongst the greatest hanafi manuals for fiqh is Bahishti Zewar. The fiqh rulings in theree if understood and known by a person puts him almost on par an allim in regards to knowledge of fiqh.

Basically, reading ahadeeth by your own without an explanatory section is detrimental to imaan.

Look at the deviant sects around today, bechare all went like that cos they didnt study the deen with the qualified people but took ignorami as their leaders.

They knwo who they are.

Ya ALLAH Madad.
Haq Chaar Yaar

"Med" wrote:
It is extremely harmful and detrimental to read ahadeeth without the guidance of a qualified teacher who has himself sat and learnt the ahadeeth and their meanings and application from qualified ulama before him.

Hence, we cannot read ahadeeth and derive the fiqhi ruling from that. For rulings of fiqh kindly refer to the fiqh manuals which are widely available and can be read by general public. Amongst the greatest hanafi manuals for fiqh is Bahishti Zewar. The fiqh rulings in theree if understood and known by a person puts him almost on par an allim in regards to knowledge of fiqh.

Basically, reading ahadeeth by your own without an explanatory section is detrimental to imaan.

[b]Look at the deviant sects around today, bechare all went like that cos they didnt study the deen with the qualified people but took ignorami as their leaders.

They knwo who they are.[/b]

Yeh I know exactly wat u mean Brother Med. Shame isnt it.

_____________- -SupeRazor- -_______________

Some ppl make their goals the stars.
They may live n die n never reach the stars,
but in the darkness of the night, those stars will guide them to their destination.
Becuz they made them in their eyesight

ok.....i shouldnt bother i think....

but the ahadeeth come under the title gold is forbidden for women...

at back of book sez...

minhaaj Al- Sunnah

"naj" wrote:
ok.....i shouldnt bother i think....

but the ahadeeth come under the title gold is forbidden for women...

at back of book sez...

minhaaj Al- Sunnah

hmmm

which publishing house, author name?

I think it may be a salafi book, best to ask Mawlana innit.

But for definite women can wear gold. I love it. Thats why Mrs Med 1, Mrs Med 2, Mrs Med 3 are gonna be dripping in gold, Mrs Med 4 aint.

Ya ALLAH Madad.
Haq Chaar Yaar

you should treat all four wives equally...

author is shaykh mohammed naasir-ud-deen al-albaani

will ask bro anyway..not my book

goodnite everyone

goodnite.

Med and Razor both of you cool it. You both know the next step. It has been taken before. It leads to anarchy.

I frankly am too lazy to clean up after you two.

"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.

"Med" wrote:
Thats why Mrs Med 1, Mrs Med 2, Mrs Med 3 are gonna be dripping in gold, Mrs Med 4 aint.

wadya mean 'Mrs. Med'... :roll: Muslim women are meant to keep their own surname after marriage yaknow... Blum 3

[size=9]I NEVER WORE IT BECAUSE OF THE TALIBAN, MOTHER. I LIKE THE [b]MODESTY[/b] AND [b]PROTECTION[/b] IT AFFORDS ME FROM THE EYES OF MEN.[/size] [url=http://www.adherents.com/lit/comics/Dust.html]Dust, X-Men[/url]

"Med" wrote:
But for definite women can wear gold. I love it. Thats why Mrs Med 1, Mrs Med 2, Mrs Med 3 are gonna be dripping in gold, Mrs Med 4 aint.

Is Mrs Med 4 from the other side of the closet?

:shock:

"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.

"naj" wrote:
you should treat all four wives equally...

author is shaykh mohammed naasir-ud-deen al-albaani

will ask bro anyway..not my book

goodnite everyone

EXTREMELY DODGY BOOK!

Keep away from it, infact shudnt even be in the house.

Why Mrs Med?

I wish to keep my life companions in purdah and it is a habit by us that we dont mention the names of our women. We say the mother of such and such, or the daughter of so and so. Hence my Mrs Meds x 4 will inshaALLAH, remain hidden to all the world save their mahaarim and me and their female relatives and friends.

Med and Razor

Im cool.

Ya ALLAH Madad.
Haq Chaar Yaar

"Med" wrote:
Why Mrs Med?

I wish to keep my life companions in purdah and it is a habit by us that we dont mention the names of our women. We say the mother of such and such, or the daughter of so and so. Hence my Mrs Meds x 4 will inshaALLAH, remain hidden to all the world save their mahaarim and me and their female relatives and friends.


who is that^ an answer to? Fool (wot has it got to do with anything...) :?

[size=9]I NEVER WORE IT BECAUSE OF THE TALIBAN, MOTHER. I LIKE THE [b]MODESTY[/b] AND [b]PROTECTION[/b] IT AFFORDS ME FROM THE EYES OF MEN.[/size] [url=http://www.adherents.com/lit/comics/Dust.html]Dust, X-Men[/url]

wow, he's from 'back home'? for some reason i always assumed he was a brit. Smile

[size=9]I NEVER WORE IT BECAUSE OF THE TALIBAN, MOTHER. I LIKE THE [b]MODESTY[/b] AND [b]PROTECTION[/b] IT AFFORDS ME FROM THE EYES OF MEN.[/size] [url=http://www.adherents.com/lit/comics/Dust.html]Dust, X-Men[/url]

Im sorry admin, im a passionate person.

Med, regarding your question, im on the case.

_____________- -SupeRazor- -_______________

Some ppl make their goals the stars.
They may live n die n never reach the stars,
but in the darkness of the night, those stars will guide them to their destination.
Becuz they made them in their eyesight

"Aasiyah" wrote:
"Med" wrote:
Why Mrs Med?

I wish to keep my life companions in purdah and it is a habit by us that we dont mention the names of our women. We say the mother of such and such, or the daughter of so and so. Hence my Mrs Meds x 4 will inshaALLAH, remain hidden to all the world save their mahaarim and me and their female relatives and friends.


who is that^ an answer to? Fool (wot has it got to do with anything...) :?

er its in response to u asking y im calling em mrs med?

asiyah wat is ur problem?

u make a comment, i explain, then u ask y im explaining?

Ya ALLAH Madad.
Haq Chaar Yaar

"Med" wrote:

EXTREMELY DODGY BOOK!

Keep away from it, infact shudnt even be in the house.

Reasons?

Who is this author guy? why is he so dangerous?

"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.

"Admin" wrote:
"Med" wrote:

EXTREMELY DODGY BOOK!

Keep away from it, infact shudnt even be in the house.

Reasons?

Who is this author guy? why is he so dangerous?

Jenab Nasiruddeen al Albaani is deceased. May ALLAH have mercy on his soul.

He was not a conformist and held no sanad. He produced a lot of confused works, may ALLAH forgive him. ameen.

I dont think I should say anymore.

Ya ALLAH Madad.
Haq Chaar Yaar

ok

Razor, make sure you reply in the correct topic, as I have split topics.

"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.

"Med" wrote:
"Aasiyah" wrote:
"Med" wrote:
Why Mrs Med?

I wish to keep my life companions in purdah and it is a habit by us that we dont mention the names of our women. We say the mother of such and such, or the daughter of so and so. Hence my Mrs Meds x 4 will inshaALLAH, remain hidden to all the world save their mahaarim and me and their female relatives and friends.


who is that^ an answer to? Fool (wot has it got to do with anything...) :?

er its in response to u asking y im calling em mrs med?

asiyah wat is ur problem?

u make a comment, i explain, then u ask y im explaining?


lol oh sorry, i wasnt sure if u were replying to Admin or me, and i thought that was u going off on one of your tangents again... Blum 3

coz wot has their purdah got to do with u calling em 'Mrs Med'? u can call em by a kunya as u mentioned e.g. Umm-X but u cant call them 'Mrs Med' because islamically they are meant to keep their maiden name, and calling her 'Mrs. Med' would be 'imitating the kuffaar' wouldnt u say?

Lol

[size=9]I NEVER WORE IT BECAUSE OF THE TALIBAN, MOTHER. I LIKE THE [b]MODESTY[/b] AND [b]PROTECTION[/b] IT AFFORDS ME FROM THE EYES OF MEN.[/size] [url=http://www.adherents.com/lit/comics/Dust.html]Dust, X-Men[/url]

Cut him some slack. It's a figure of speech.

Hold it. We are talking abouit Med.

Come on We deserve some answers! :evil:

"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.

Med, thas jus the 1st stage of education, thers so much scholars that shaykh-ul-islamhas studied under, you'll cry. Ive asked a fellow minhajian who knws a whole lot more than me to get me some more info, Inshallah ill clear your doubt bro.

_____________- -SupeRazor- -_______________

Some ppl make their goals the stars.
They may live n die n never reach the stars,
but in the darkness of the night, those stars will guide them to their destination.
Becuz they made them in their eyesight

"razor" wrote:
Med, thas jus the 1st stage of education, thers so much scholars that shaykh-ul-islamhas studied under, you'll cry. Ive asked a fellow minhajian who knws a whole lot more than me to get me some more info, Inshallah ill clear your doubt bro.

I said take it to the right topic!

(and its a poor answer. I can do better, and I aint even Minhajian!)

"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.

"Aasiyah" wrote:

coz wot has their purdah got to do with u calling em 'Mrs Med'? u can call em by a kunya as u mentioned e.g. Umm-X but u cant call them 'Mrs Med' because islamically they are meant to keep their maiden name, and calling her 'Mrs. Med' would be 'imitating the kuffaar' wouldnt u say?

Lol

they done have kids, they dont have a kunya. Neither have they followed the sunnah Ammi Aisha radhiyallahu anha and taken the kunya of their nephews. So the would be Umm a, Umm b, Umm c, Umm d are gonna be dripping in gold. and every1s gonna be like meds finally gonna mad, he's just umming and aahing.

Mrs Med just means Meds Mrs.

Islamically they are meant to keep their maiden name?

pls provide references where it says they must islamically keep maiden name.

I knw she doesnt have to change her name to husbands family/tribe but islamically she is ''meant'' to keep her maiden name. pls prove.

And as for imitating its not imitating because im not doing it in real life, it was a figure of speech, a way of saying meds mrs's. I aint gonna marry someone and have her called mrs med (med aint my real name btw)

Ya ALLAH Madad.
Haq Chaar Yaar

deary me... i was pulling your leg mate... kept that joke going for far too long... Lol

[size=9]I NEVER WORE IT BECAUSE OF THE TALIBAN, MOTHER. I LIKE THE [b]MODESTY[/b] AND [b]PROTECTION[/b] IT AFFORDS ME FROM THE EYES OF MEN.[/size] [url=http://www.adherents.com/lit/comics/Dust.html]Dust, X-Men[/url]

yeh whatevaa aasiyah.

im pleased for u.

Ya ALLAH Madad.
Haq Chaar Yaar

i think i shall die of boredom.

righty ho chaps, off to bed, wot wot.

[size=9]I NEVER WORE IT BECAUSE OF THE TALIBAN, MOTHER. I LIKE THE [b]MODESTY[/b] AND [b]PROTECTION[/b] IT AFFORDS ME FROM THE EYES OF MEN.[/size] [url=http://www.adherents.com/lit/comics/Dust.html]Dust, X-Men[/url]

"Aasiyah" wrote:
"Med" wrote:
Thats why Mrs Med 1, Mrs Med 2, Mrs Med 3 are gonna be dripping in gold, Mrs Med 4 aint.

wadya mean 'Mrs. Med'... :roll: Muslim women are meant to keep their own surname after marriage yaknow... Blum 3

yea....if thats true im disappointed.

"Med" wrote:
[EXTREMELY DODGY BOOK!

Keep away from it, infact shudnt even be in the house.

k,med

gonna read it one more time then burn IT.

Don't burn it.

Just keep the dodginess in mind. Even the devil can teach something good.

Besides why burn money?

(And Med, I was not trying to be confrontational when I asked about the guy. I have no idea who he is. I have since had a quick look around, but nothing concrete...)

"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.

"Admin" wrote:
Don't burn it.

Just keep the dodginess in mind. Even the devil can teach something good.

Besides why burn money?

(And Med, I was not trying to be confrontational when I asked about the guy. I have no idea who he is. I have since had a quick look around, but nothing concrete...)

ok..i shall put it in the darkest corner of my cupboard..

also didnt know who the guy is, never heard of him before...know a few dodgy authors to stay away from though.

"Admin" wrote:

(And Med, I was not trying to be confrontational when I asked about the guy. I have no idea who he is. I have since had a quick look around, but nothing concrete...)

I knw you werent being confrontational.

My saying it shouldnt be in the house was not literal it was metaphorical; point being that in my view books by certain people lead to much confusion in simple peoples minds- trust me I speak from experience.

Ya ALLAH Madad.
Haq Chaar Yaar

"naj" wrote:
"Aasiyah" wrote:
"Med" wrote:
Thats why Mrs Med 1, Mrs Med 2, Mrs Med 3 are gonna be dripping in gold, Mrs Med 4 aint.

wadya mean 'Mrs. Med'... :roll: Muslim women are meant to keep their own surname after marriage yaknow... Blum 3

yea....if thats true im disappointed.

which bit specifically is disappointing? The lack of gold for my Mrs Med 4 or that according to aasiyah the muslim women are meant to keep their family name even after marriage?

Ya ALLAH Madad.
Haq Chaar Yaar

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