Culture caste and Lollywood Pakistani Films

The caste system among Muslims

Sources indicate that the castes among Muslims developed as the result of close contact with Hindu culture and Hindu converts to Islam.

Religious scholar Yoginder Sikand elaborates that the caste system among Muslims was not due to the "influence of Hinduism among a previously 'pure', 'uncontaminated' Muslim community," but rather to "the continued impact of Hindu beliefs and customs on the converts who still remained within a largely Hindu cultural universe and retained many of its associated beliefs and practices"

Discriminations

In some parts of South Asia, the Muslims are divided as Ashrafs and Ajlafs.
Ashrafs claim a superior status derived from their foreign ancestry.
The non-Ashrafs are assumed to be converts from Hinduism, and are therefore drawn from the indigenous population.
They, in turn, are divided into a number of occupational castes.

Interactions between the oonchi zat (upper caste) and neechi zaat (lower caste) are regulated by established patron-client relationships of the jajmani system, the upper castes being referred to as the 'Jajmans', and the lower caste as 'Kamin'.
Upon contact with a low-caste Muslim, a Muslim of a higher zaat can "purify" by taking a short bath, since there are no elaborate rituals for purification.[7] In Bihar state of India, cases have been reported in which the higher caste Muslims have opposed the burials of lower caste Muslims in the same graveyard.

Some of the high castes are
Brahmin[religious teachers also known as Pandits or Molvi's
Jatt Land owners they are a mixture of Hindus and Sikhs
Mughal Persian kings
Rajput Land owners They are mostly Hindu converts

Some of the low castes are
Chura/Mussali
Dalit
Dhobi
Mochi
Shudra

You must never share cups plates and things of that sort with the lower castes

There are also many other Hindu practices that are still present among Muslims today

Lollywood (Urdu: لالی وڈ) refers to the Pakistani film industry based in the city of Lahore. The word "Lollywood" was first coined in the summer of 1989 in the now defunct magazine "Glamour" published from Karachi by a gossip columnist Saleem Nasir. The film industry in Lahore started in 1929 with the opening of the United Players' Studios on Ravi Road. The cornerstone for the studio was set by Abdur Rashid Kardar. Since then the studio has managed various indigenous productions competing with other film production centres in the undivided India, namely Bombay and Calcutta.

Most of the feature films shot in Pakistan are in National Language Urdu. Urdu (spoken elements of Hindi and Urdu are exactly the same) is often used in feature films of Bollywood and may also be included in films in local languages like, Punjabi, Pashto, Balochi or Sindhi.

The Pakistani film industry is credited with having produced some of the most notable and recognised filmmakers, actors, writers and directors, and for introducing pop music to South Asia.[

Pakistani Music

Pakistani pop music refers to popular music forms in Pakistan. Pakistani pop is a mixture of traditional Pakistani classical music and western influences of jazz, rock and roll, hip-hop and disco sung in various languages of Pakistan, including Urdu language. The popularity of music is based on the individual sales of a single, viewership of its music video or the singer's album chart positions.

Pakistani pop music is attributed to have given birth to the genre in the South Asian region with Ahmed Rushdi's song ‘Ko-Ko-Korina’ in 1966.[1]

Veterans like Runa Laila started the pop industry in Pakistan while the fifteen-years old pop sensation Nazia with her brother Zohaib Hassan ushered the birth of pop music all over South Asia tailing on the success of her British endeavours.

From Rushdi's pop hits to songs sung by the Hassan siblings, to bands including Junoon, Vital Signs and Strings, the Pakistani pop industry has steadily spread throughout South Asia and today is the most popular genre in Pakistan and the neighbouring South Asian countries.
Songs sung by Pakistani pop artists are a regular feature on soundtracks of most of the Bollywood movies.

The genre has always been accepted in the mainstream youth culture but hindrances came in the form of changing governments, radical Islamicisation, foreign influences and a stiff competition from neighbouring countries.
Still, pop music thrived and survived with a steady growth. In was not until recent times that Pakistani pop music was to be admired throughout South Asia and the rest of the world.

Comments

lollywood wrote:
ThE pOwEr Of SiLeNcE wrote:

Does that mean my parents, who were born in Pakistan are converts?

It means that they are children or great grand children of converts to prove this get a blood test done that will tell you all you need to know


Now how does that affect me being a Muslim?

"How many people find fault in what they're reading and the fault is in their own understanding" Al Mutanabbi

pointless argumentation guys! you just need to explain to SI that the 1st pillar of Islam isnt about just saying teh shahada, its about believing in it and applying it. hence why it IS relevant. because you might be born a muslim and pray 5 times a day, but if you do not truly believe that ther eis no other God, That Allah is the only One worthy of being worship and that Muhammad (pbuh) is the last prophet then praying is useless, so's fasting, so's everything else.

Is it true? Is it kind? Is it necessary?

ThE pOwEr Of SiLeNcE wrote:

Now how does that affect me being a Muslim?

It shouldn't tbh

My English is not very good

lollywood wrote:
ThE pOwEr Of SiLeNcE wrote:

Now how does that affect me being a Muslim?

It shouldn't tbh


So why do you always mention the cultural stuff, which has derived from India/Hindus?

"How many people find fault in what they're reading and the fault is in their own understanding" Al Mutanabbi

Lilly wrote:
you might be born a muslim and pray 5 times a day, but if you do not truly believe that there is no other God, That Allah is the only One worthy of being worship and that Muhammad (pbuh) is the last prophet then praying is useless, so's fasting, so's everything else.

But I do truly believe in Allah I never use to when I first came on here

My English is not very good

ThE pOwEr Of SiLeNcE wrote:

So why do you always mention the cultural stuff, which has derived from India/Hindus?

because our parents have carried it on like
Loon Phirnan[waving salt around the head]

Marchan Sarnan [Burning red chillies]
the use of Phatkari [Alum] [to cure nazar]

I could go on

My English is not very good

lollywood wrote:
ThE pOwEr Of SiLeNcE wrote:

So why do you always mention the cultural stuff, which has derived from India/Hindus?

because our parents have carried it on like
Loon Phirnan[waving salt around the head]

Marchan Sarnan [Burning red chillies]
the use of Phatkari [Alum] [to cure nazar]

I could go on


1) not everyone's family does that
2) what have they gut to do with being a Muslim?

"How many people find fault in what they're reading and the fault is in their own understanding" Al Mutanabbi

lollywood wrote:
Lilly wrote:
you might be born a muslim and pray 5 times a day, but if you do not truly believe that there is no other God, That Allah is the only One worthy of being worship and that Muhammad (pbuh) is the last prophet then praying is useless, so's fasting, so's everything else.

But I do truly believe in Allah I never use to when I first came on here

exactly. hence why you need it right? but you dismiss that pillar as unimportant. its not, its the MOST important, do you see why? because without it, all the rest of the pillars and the rest of our actions would be U-S-E-L-E-S-S. TOTALLY.

Is it true? Is it kind? Is it necessary?

ThE pOwEr Of SiLeNcE wrote:

1) not everyone's family does that

They still do something non Islamic

ThE pOwEr Of SiLeNcE wrote:

2) what have they got to do with being a Muslim?

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Some of the things they do could count as Shirk

My English is not very good

Lilly wrote:

exactly. hence why you need it right? but you dismiss that pillar as unimportant. its not, its the MOST important, do you see why? because without it, all the rest of the pillars and the rest of our actions would be U-S-E-L-E-S-S. TOTALLY.

No, what I meant was there is no need to take the Shahada because that is the first thing parents teach there Muslim child when it starts to speak they are the first words parents try and teach there children so that should go without saying is what I meant

How could I dismiss the Shahada Astaghfirullah may Allah forgive me for making it sound like that

My English is not very good

yeah you dont need to go through the process of saying the shahada, but what im saying is that this isnt what the pillar "shahada" is all about, there is A LOT more to it than that (im sure you've gathered). i just wanted to clarify that.

next pillar - Salaat. tell me about it? (please)

Is it true? Is it kind? Is it necessary?

Lilly wrote:

next pillar - Salaat. tell me about it? (please)

You need to pray 5 times a day no matter what rain or sunshine

My English is not very good

lollywood wrote:
Lilly wrote:

next pillar - Salaat. tell me about it? (please)

You need to pray 5 times a day no matter what rain or sunshine

and no matter if there is a concert or whatnot eh?

why do we pray?

Is it true? Is it kind? Is it necessary?

Lilly wrote:

and no matter if there is a concert or whatnot eh?

who cares about a silly concert

Lilly wrote:

why do we pray?

We pray to please our creator and to purify our self’s from sin

My English is not very good

Lilly wrote:

why do we pray?

We pray to please our creator and to purify our self’s from sin[/quote]

and also to thank Him for everything He's done for us, for keeping us alive till then etc...
and also because its an obligation (as you said, to please Allah)

its also the first thing that Allah will ask us about on the day of Judgement.

and it helps us remind ourselves we are muslims. like...we wouldnt start doing something haraam and then stop and pray, because prayer reminds us to be good and stay strong for Allah's sake.

and also, prayer distinguishes between muslims and non-muslims, thats one of the way to tell us apart. we pray. some people say that if you abandon prayer then you could be considered a non muslim.. thats the opinion of some scholars etc..

Is it true? Is it kind? Is it necessary?

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