"yuit" wrote:

Yeah another Lost fan , I think i will go an start a thread about it now

get a life!

I am gona watch this programme and see whats the fuss.

"angel" wrote:

"yuit" wrote:

Yeah another Lost fan , I think i will go an start a thread about it now

get a life!

I am gona watch this programme and see whats the fuss.

Yeah was about to start a thread on it, wrote everything up and then started to think how sad i become and i had second thoughts about it :roll:

"yuit" wrote:

Yeah another Lost fan , I think i will go an start a thread about it now

lol been watching it since the beginning - I was going to firebomb ABC studios 3 weeks ago when they refused to play anything but reruns.

For decency's sake they should warn us when they are going to do that

"Constantine" wrote:

Lost is definitely one of the best shows out there, lol i'm surprised nobody pointed out the Iraqi... doesn't look like an Iraqi

Yuit likes the Iraqi called sayeed.....i dont really like his character at the moment but we still have quite a few episodes left for the end of the 1st season....they are way ahead of us in america....2nd season i think?

"flower" wrote:

"Constantine" wrote:

Lost is definitely one of the best shows out there, lol i'm surprised nobody pointed out the Iraqi... doesn't look like an Iraqi

Yuit likes the Iraqi called sayeed.....i dont really like his character at the moment but we still have quite a few episodes left for the end of the 1st season....they are way ahead of us in america....2nd season i think?

Nah i don't really like sayeed that much, i prefer hurley and charly more. But all the cahracters are so different, but saying that i thing really annoy me about the show is that Locke always seem to be right, i can't stand that, i love too see him get shot down and proven he was wrong about something.

I think we on the second series now as well. I sometime visit the million of website dedicated to the show and I know some of the thing that are going to happen in the future. It a great show with so much twist, i just loved the moment when they done the consesus and found that there was on extra person on the island who wasn't on the flight. That Ethan character was scary, kind of gutted that Charly shot him, we will never know the full story about him now.

The theory behind the island I believe was that it was used by France to test nuclear weapons, but as the story unfolds I kind of in secnd thought on that theory. I just hope they don't drag the storyline on too much, i think 4-5 season is enough, don't want it to have a slow death like the X files.

coz there is such a hype abt this show at the moment the producers will keep the story running...making things up as they go along!

do u think they have a whole story they are following which shows us whats happens at the end or do u think that they will make it up as they go along and when it dies down they will just finish the story of by killing everyone or saving them from the island?

go on yuit...start the thread

I have also seen a few episodes...

...But such a story must always be finite.

It [b]must[/b] have a pre-planned ending.

Otherwise it'll it'll just keep winding on and lose focus.

"flower" wrote:

"Constantine" wrote:

Lost is definitely one of the best shows out there, lol i'm surprised nobody pointed out the Iraqi... doesn't look like an Iraqi

Yuit likes the Iraqi called sayeed.....i dont really like his character at the moment but we still have quite a few episodes left for the end of the 1st season....they are way ahead of us in america....2nd season i think?

lol 2nd season - I won't spoil it.

Sayeed is one of my favorites - lol maybe I don't believe the Iraqi role just because I saw him in Bride and Prejudice.

Ugh what an awful movie.

Locke is probably my absolute favorite though - and also his counterpart from Season 2 which I won't say anything about other than he is equally awesome and from an entirely different place.

"yuit" wrote:

Nah i don't really like sayeed that much, i prefer hurley and charly more. But all the cahracters are so different, but saying that i thing really annoy me about the show is that Locke always seem to be right, i can't stand that, i love too see him get shot down and proven he was wrong about something.

Charlie is cool but Hurley!? He's a fat blob with bad jokes! Oi vey - Locke is the man lol and i'm not going to spoil it but you might very well get your wish at the tale end of Season 1 and the beginning of Season 2.

And then quite often throughout Season 2 - there is reason to be suspicious of that guy.

"yuit" wrote:

I think we on the second series now as well. I sometime visit the million of website dedicated to the show and I know some of the thing that are going to happen in the future. It a great show with so much twist, i just loved the moment when they done the consesus and found that there was on extra person on the island who wasn't on the flight. That Ethan character was scary, kind of gutted that Charly shot him, we will never know the full story about him now.

They talk about him a little bit in Season 2 - with some other people. He's one of "the others" - and they actually show up too.

"yuit" wrote:

The theory behind the island I believe was that it was used by France to test nuclear weapons, but as the story unfolds I kind of in secnd thought on that theory. I just hope they don't drag the storyline on too much, i think 4-5 season is enough, don't want it to have a slow death like the X files.

lol two words "Dharma Project"

Yea... I am afraid they are just going to continue ad infinitum with this stuff where they hint in 30 different directions and never explain whats going on. Don't think I have the patience for that sort of thing. But!

They have plenty of material when they add a really cool plot twist at the beginning of Season 2 to write well beyond 4-5 Seasons and still tell us what's going on.

Season 2 is awesome.

People die.

what do you think? will locke die?

from what I have heard of the story at the start of season two... it could lead to that.

Not due to characters, but i do not have muc faith in writers. They will need to cop out at some point...

in other news the Beeb is remaking the prisoner...

"Admin" wrote:

what do you think? will locke die?

from what I have heard of the story at the start of season two... it could lead to that.

Not due to characters, but i do not have muc faith in writers. They will need to cop out at some point...

in other news the Beeb is remaking the prisoner...

lol locke die? Doubtful... but I definitely dunno where is loyalties are - personally I think he might join the others

"Constantine" wrote:

"Admin" wrote:

what do you think? will locke die?

from what I have heard of the story at the start of season two... it could lead to that.

Not due to characters, but i do not have muc faith in writers. They will need to cop out at some point...

in other news the Beeb is remaking the prisoner...

lol locke die? Doubtful... but I definitely dunno where is loyalties are - personally I think he might join the others

My money on his sidekick dying, he doesn't add nothing to the show, you know the rich kid. But i think we should stop speaking to Dave, he know too much and will spoil it for the rest of us.

But I have heard that a girl who stared in a wierd boxing film where she beats her boyfriend in a amateur bout, stupid film (like that ever possible :roll: ) joins the cast. It be interesting how they do that though.

I think they have got a start and ending planned, but i too with get fed up if there too many twist and turns and no sign of a finish. It need too last only a few seasons and it may just go down as the most successful programme ever IMO.

Oh yeah on Seraph point, i believe that the plane flew 1000's of miles off it flight route and seem to have enter a bermuda triangle or something and that why there isn't much chance of being found, hence Micheal building a raft to get out of there.

Seraph; second episode. the pilot tells them before being eaten alive.

They went offcourse because they tried to turn back to sydney, but got blown off course... so they were no where near the predicted flight path... or something similar.

I cccasionally watch this, but its abit wishy washy.

Im back

Didn't realise you were gone.

Yeah you should at least tell us you going, so we can atleast pretend that we miss you when you come back :roll:

you mean to say you didnt notice my 30+ posts a day were missing

i'll catch up on everything 2mrw inshallah

Shavua tov!

The Independent - 27 November 2005

[b]TEEN BRITAIN: The shocking truth [/b]

[i]Exclusive report reveals the crisis among teenagers caused by their growing addiction to drink and drugs. Experts warn of 'health time bomb' as ministers consider forcing GPs to report under-age sex to police and social workers [/i]

[b]Experts reveal the great harm young people are doing themselves now and for the future.[/b]

Dr Dylan Griffiths has spent more than 20 years healing the minds of troubled teenagers. But the psychiatrist is shocked by what he is now facing on a daily basis. He is treating record numbers of disturbed young patients, unable to cope with the pressures of modern life, who are hooked on drink, drugs and underage sex, or who are so desperate they even contemplate suicide.

The age of experimentation among Britain's teenagers is dropping every year, he and other leading health workers warn, creating a mental health time bomb which will create a generation of dysfunctional adults.

"For today's teens, marijuana, cocaine and alcohol are as ubiquitous as traffic on the street," said Dr Griffiths, who is based at Ticehurst House Hospital in East Sussex.

"Adolescents who self-harmed were rare 30 years ago. Today, self-harming is a dramatic, addictive behaviour, a maladaptive way for growing numbers of youngsters to relieve their psychological distress."

The shocking extent of teen angst among Britain's youth is revealed tomorrow in one of the most comprehensive reports ever carried out into adolescent mental health. Backed by counsellors, drug experts and mental health charities including Sane, the independent study commissioned by the Priory Group paints a bleak picture of the growing mental-health crisis among 12- to 19-year-olds.

Family break-up, increasing pressure to achieve at school, a lack of tolerance in society and an "anything goes" attitude are all contributing to a rise in the number of young people pushed to the brink of suicide, with others driven to experiment with drugs, drink and underage sex as a way of coping with stress.

More than 900,000 adolescents have been so miserable they have considered suicide, the study says. A million have wanted to self-harm and more than half a million have experienced bullying or violence at home.

The Priory research is based on interviews with 1,000 girls and boys across the country as well as an analysis of figures provided by the Office of National Statistics. More than one in seven 14-year-olds and one in 25 young people of 13 said they had had sex. Around one in every 13 teenage boys and girls said they had gone through with sex because of peer pressure, not because they wanted to.

Ministers are discussing measures to make family doctors warn police and social workers about young patients who are having under-age sex.

Peer pressure was also to blame for many adolescents using alcohol or drugs - one in 20 teenagers of 13 and around one in six 15-year-olds had experimented with illegal substances in the belief that it would make them look "cool" and be better accepted at school.

Another worrying trend is the increase in teenagers who have such low self-esteem that they think they need radical surgery to make them look "normal". Nearly one in five 15-year-old girls and boys and one in every 20 young people of 13 said they had considered plastic surgery.

Counsellors, drug experts and mental health charities agree that action is needed urgently to prevent a generation of young people growing up with serious mental health problems. Dr Angharad Rudkin, a children's therapist, said that the internet and mobiles, which have given rise to text bullying, were factors.

"There is a lot more stress now in the education system and a pressure on teenagers to be thin, beautiful, successful and to have sex," said the clinical psychologist, based in Basingstoke, Hampshire. "There's less guidance for teenagers, less mentoring and fewer role models for positive behaviour."

Marjorie Wallace, chief executive of Sane, said that increased availability of drugs was a huge factor in the rise in young people suffering from mental illness.

"Young people who may have symptoms of mental illness rumbling under the surface are being pushed to flashpoint very quickly because of binge drinking and the availability of drugs, particularly chemical hybrids," she said. "Many of them will go on to develop lasting mental illness."

Virginia Ironside, the agony aunt and writer, said that the "curse" of a wealthy society was that young people had too much choice, so were confused about their identity.

"Pressures are absolutely nothing compared with what they used to be - pressure used to be going up chimneys. But at least if you are going up a chimney you know where you are."

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[b]Claire Rayner:[/b]

(Writer and broadcaster specialising in family and health matters):

Risk-taking and pushing yourself further than you thought you could go is normal for young people. It starts in childhood: toddlers always do it, then run back to the safety of their parents.

Those who can afford it do these amazing feats, sailing round the world or bungee-jumping. But if you are an ordinary kid what can you do to risk-take? Drugs are a big attraction because they seem foolhardy and wicked, and taking them is a way of getting your own back on adults. When it comes to alcohol, there is always a tendency to drink more because you shouldn't. And the industry is partly to blame for making up drinks such as Long Island Ice Tea with all types of alcohol in them. Remember, when you're 17 you think you're immortal.

My generation didn't need to go out and do stupid things because they went to war and society always treated them as heroes. If they got drunk, it was accepted because they were young people who had gone to war. Look at those poor soldiers in Iraq. They are risk-taking with huge government approval.

Although we are the fourth richest country in the world, we still have an obscene number of people on the poverty line. And many young people have non-coping parents, which means they have grown up disillusioned with the adult world. It hurts dreadfully when your family breaks up. Your world shakes.

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Teenagers are facing what medical experts warn is "a mental health time bomb" caused by the abuse of drugs and alcohol.

New figures show that the use of drink and drugs has become common among children as young as 13, with one expert saying alcohol, cocaine and marijuana are "as ubiquitous as traffic on the streets".

Doctors and counsellors say that record numbers of stressed-out adolescents are becoming addicts as they struggle to cope with the trauma of family break-up, exam pressures and the ever-growing obsession with body image.

The use of drink and drugs is also fuelling a growing problem of sex among young teenagers. Ministers are now considering forcing doctors to breach confidentiality with young patients if they believe they are having under-age sex.

72% Alcohol

The proportion of 14-year-olds who have drunk alcohol. Almost half of all 13-year-olds have also tried it. Mental health experts say people drinking at that age are four times more likely to become alcoholics

36% Drugs

The proportion of 15-year-olds who have tried cocaine or cannabis. Addiction experts say there is clear evidence that young people using drugs are more likely to suffer from psychiatric disorders in later life

32% Sex

The proportion of 15-year-olds who have had sexual intercourse, with more than one in 10 saying they felt pressured into it by peers. Doctors say the trend is fuelling an explosion in sexually transmitted diseases

25% Suicide

The proportion of girls aged 15 who have considered killing themselves or indulged in significant attempts at self-harm. Almost one in 10 blamed bullying and violence for their low self-esteem and depression

DRINK: Emma East, 15

"My home life stresses me out as I often have fights with my family. It means I can't concentrate in school and it affects my schoolwork. My family don't get on at all. I got really badly drunk once and was sick in the pub, so I haven't touched the stuff since last Christmas. I had a really bad experience and don't want to touch the stuff any more. I've been to church for the past five years. My parents don't go; I go by myself. You learn things there to help you in your everyday life. It's a support network."

72% of 14-year-olds have consumed alcohol

DRUGS: Sevim Hodge, 16

"It starts at secondary school, where there is a huge emphasis on status. Drugs offer an easy solution to these pressures. From the age of 13 I was smoking cannabis with my friends. It was only my own willpower that helped me stop, and what I saw happening to my friends. I'm still friends with people who take drugs and at least a third of them now are regular users, but it can easily spiral out of control. I've seen cocaine taken openly in the playground."

53% of 16-year-olds have tried illegal substances such as marijuana or cocaine

BULLYING: Michael Licudi, 17

"I was targeted by homophobic bullies outside my school and ended up on anti-depressants. Being gay, I've struggled because US rap culture promotes masculine stereotypes in schools. The media, particularly programmes such as Little Britain and The Catherine Tate Show, also legitimise a certain way of saying and doing things. If you don't match those stereotypes, then it makes acceptance much more difficult. There has always been a cool group, but media influence gives them an added legitimacy and power."

28% of 13-year-olds are bullied at school

SELF HARM: Imogen Townley, 15

"It's a bit weird, but a lot of girls in my year cut themselves. I think it's supposed to be some kind of statement, because they roll their sleeves up in class to show the marks. It's like they're trying to say, 'Look at me, I'm so stressed out, so messed up and misunderstood, so beautiful but lonely.' But all they're trying to do is get attention."

19% of 15-year-olds have wanted to hurt themselves

SEX: Amari Nunesi, 14

"Of course teenagers are going to have sex. We like doing it, it's as simple as that. We like it as much as adults do. Society can't stop it. Nobody can stop it. The only thing that would stop it is if they made more ugly girls. Family-wise it's more difficult for teenagers now, because a lot of people don't have two parents, so they don't know who to go to with their problems. Sometimes you want to speak to your mum about something, but if you're staying with your dad you can't."

32% of 14-year-olds have had sexual intercourse

STRESS: Steph Ashcroft, 13

"There are people from my school who have anger management counselling, and others who have counselling for depression and abnormal behaviour. I guess about 10 people in my year are having therapy. There are some kids who have hit teachers over the head with chairs. Sometimes they just go ape and throw everything about. There are a lot of people at school with a lot of issues, unfortunately. I get tense myself sometimes. I got an after-school detention last week for calling one of the teachers a stroppy cow."

15% of 14-year-olds have considered taking their own lives

BODY IMAGE: Sebastian Emin, 13

"I am happy with my body but I would definitely change my height. I used to get picked on because I'm only 4ft 6in. Everyone sees something they don't like about themselves. If you take a photo, you look at your lips or your eyes and you think they look horrible. We always find something wrong with ourselves. I think Peter Andre has got the perfect body. He's more popular because of his looks - particularly his muscles. Britney Spears has the perfect female figure. She's so slim."

15% of 14-year-olds have considered plastic surgery

[url]http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/this_britain/article329623.ece[/url]

Omro are u also a troubled teen? :twisted:

If you are looking for some trouble then I'm not your man. Ask Con or Jedda.

Oh yeah, this'll really get the Ummah off its backside.

http://forum.mpacuk.org/arcade.php?

nothing like fish and chips from th'local

and i find myself talking myself

Dave ..........WHERE ARE YOU?!?!

it may be 4.30am here, but thats no excuse for you! :o

"Darth V-Hayder" wrote:

nothing like fish and chips from th'local

and i find myself talking myself

Dave ..........WHERE ARE YOU?!?!

it may be 4.30am here, but thats no excuse for you! :o

lol out having a little fun last night - sorry i'll have more free time tonight

what did you get up2?

u bieng a bood boy?

"Darth V-Hayder" wrote:

what did you get up2?

u bieng a bood boy?

What's a bood boy?

lol

i meant a gooood boy