mahdeeWill a jinn harm a human without any reason?
If you havent done anything then you havent got anything to worry about. 😃
SeraphimWow... is it that time of the year again, where we start telling ghost stories.
Like people, there are also crazy and evil Jinns and as such will be out to cause harm
Theyr not ghost stories. Jinns do exist and can harm ppl if you peev them off. I have never encountered a Jinn experience but if i did i will probably be freaked out for life.
Naz
Theyr not ghost stories. Jinns do exist and can harm ppl if you peev them off. I have never encountered a Jinn experience but if i did i will probably be freaked out for life.
People often mistake one for the other sooo.... {forgets what point he was going to make... never mind lol}
Jinn are used as a bogeyman to scare kids. Unfortunately, most kids grow up and still believe the stories wholesale. I guess the next generation will also believe in Santa Claus.
Others use them as "excuses" for bad behaviour or mental illness.
I have not seen any evidence that a Jinn can harm a human, nor do I think they can "Possess" others as that would seem to go against the basic free will that Allah (swt) has granted to humans.
Jinn are used as a bogeyman to scare kids. Unfortunately, most kids grow up and still believe the stories wholesale. I guess the next generation will also believe in Santa Claus.
Others use them as "excuses" for bad behaviour or mental illness.
I have not seen any evidence that a Jinn can harm a human, nor do I think they can "Possess" others as that would seem to go against the basic free will that Allah (swt) has granted to humans.
Actually they're real, we called a rukia man in and he said this is classic jinn behaviour
Jinn are used as a bogeyman to scare kids. Unfortunately, most kids grow up and still believe the stories wholesale. I guess the next generation will also believe in Santa Claus.
Others use them as "excuses" for bad behaviour or mental illness.
I have not seen any evidence that a Jinn can harm a human, nor do I think they can "Possess" others as that would seem to go against the basic free will that Allah (swt) has granted to humans.
Actually they're real, we called a rukia man in and he said this is classic jinn behaviour
how much did he charge for that amazing diagnoses?
I have not seen any evidence that a Jinn can harm a human, nor do I think they can "Possess" others as that would seem to go against the basic free will that Allah (swt) has granted to humans.
There is scholastic disagreement as to whether Jinn posession (of humans) is possible. (I like to keep my options open on this one personally :o )
On the other hand, we humans have the ability to gain control of jinn - Ive learnt of a method (as explained from a very respected scholar, so authentic!) (not that I will ever use it!) :doubt: :shock:
Amal
There is scholastic disagreement as to whether Jinn posession (of humans) is possible. (I like to keep my options open on this one personally :o )
How can there be a disagreement between scholars on this subject?
Either there have been documented, verifiable cases of it happening or there are not.
Amal
There is scholastic disagreement as to whether Jinn posession (of humans) is possible. (I like to keep my options open on this one personally :o )
How can there be a disagreement between scholars on this subject?
Either there have been documented, verifiable cases of it happening or there are not.
Like I said, scholastic disagreement - i.e. based on evidences from Qur'an and sunnah. Documented cases and whatsnot are a secondary (and of course evidentially supportive) matter.
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^^ thats my excuse too (its all human psychology)... to be bloody honest... i've done no research on this topic and don't know for sure whether i believe in it... it may be due to the fact that people have misused and manipulated the issue to an extent that the scars are tooooo deep to disappear... all i know is that they exist... and thats it... and i don't believe that they actually interfere in your life... like You explained its against the human freewill... otherwise we've got two angels on our shoulders, do you hear them whisper in your ears?
Unlike angels, humans and Jinns have free will. So theoretically one can interfere in the lives of the other.
one incident that happened a long time ago,
My elder brother got up in the middle of the night to visit the loo and on his way back to his room, he saw a tall white jinn praying in his room, obviously he was freaked coz i mean cmon, hes just seen a jinn, or probably back then he must of thought it a ghost!
But if a Jinn can take the form of a tree or car whats to say they cant possess humans?
Yes if a Jinn does harm/possess a human it does go against the freewill that Allah(swt) has given mankind BUT the Jinns are being tested too so if they do abuse the powers Allah(swt) has given them then clearly they will be punished for it.
Mankind does not have complete freewill anyway, some aspects of our lives are determined. Ie by making dua for something and then Allah(swt) granting it us.
NazBut if a Jinn can take the form of a tree or car whats to say they cant possess humans?
Yes if a Jinn does harm/possess a human it does go against the freewill that Allah(swt) has given mankind BUT the Jinns are being tested too so if they do abuse the powers Allah(swt) has given them then clearly they will be punished for it.
Mankind does not have complete freewill anyway, some aspects of our lives are determined. Ie by making dua for something and then Allah(swt) granting it us.
Who said a jinni can take the for of a car or a tree? I think you mean Transformers.
What if you driving you car down the motorway and then it suddenly changes into a tree? you'd be killed!
Anyway, about the du'aa....We choose what we make du'aa for. If we ask Allah (swt) to make us patient/kind, then that is OUR choice. We could easily choose to make du'aa that Allah (swt) changes our Horse Chestnut into an Aston Martin.
NazBut if a Jinn can take the form of a tree or car whats to say they cant possess humans?
Yes if a Jinn does harm/possess a human it does go against the freewill that Allah(swt) has given mankind BUT the Jinns are being tested too so if they do abuse the powers Allah(swt) has given them then clearly they will be punished for it.
Mankind does not have complete freewill anyway, some aspects of our lives are determined. Ie by making dua for something and then Allah(swt) granting it us.
Who said a jinni can take the for of a car or a tree? I think you mean Transformers.
yaqubWho said a jinni can take the for of a car or a tree? I think you mean Transformers.
😂
I cant remember exactly where ( i have this habit of reading but not jotting down what i read and my memory is not as good as it use to be) but i did come across these:
If Jinns cant harm you then why are Muslims suppose to read Aaoodhu Billaahi min al-khubthi waal-khabaaaith when entering the bathroom? Its because they can harm humans hence why were told to read it.
Jinna do have more powers then mankind so whats to say they cant turn into a tree or car. The bad Jinns obviously have too much time on their hands so they torment humans. If i wasnt visible to mankind i would be very tempted to scare some puny human being muhahaha
Yaqab - whistling away
Naz - rustles
Yaqub - whose there?
Naz - continues to rustle
Yaqub - (Picks up pen as if its a sword) I know your there. Come out.
Naz - points and laughs
Yaqab - whistling away
Naz - rustles
Yaqub - whose there?
Naz - continues to rustle
Yaqub - (Picks up pen as if its a sword) I know your there. Come out.
Naz - points and laughs
Why are you rustling?
I don't think you'll be laughing when I attack you with my pen. You've seen Demolition Man, right?
Yaqab - whistling away
Naz - rustles
Yaqub - whose there?
Naz - continues to rustle
Yaqub - (Picks up pen as if its a sword) I know your there. Come out.
Naz - points and laughs
Why are you rustling?
I don't think you'll be laughing when I attack you with my pen. You've seen Demolition Man, right?
Well i was trying to imagine what i would do if i was a Jinn. Ive come to the conclusion i just wouldnt be a very scary Jinn. Id probably get bullied by other Jinns for being so pathetic like Lenny (a vegi shark)did in shark tale because he wouldnt eat the fish.
If you cant see me then your stabbing into the air lol. Demolition Man.....hmmmm sounds familiar.
Jinn are used as a bogeyman to scare kids. Unfortunately, most kids grow up and still believe the stories wholesale. I guess the next generation will also believe in Santa Claus.
Others use them as "excuses" for bad behaviour or mental illness.
I have not seen any evidence that a Jinn can harm a human, nor do I think they can "Possess" others as that would seem to go against the basic free will that Allah (swt) has granted to humans.
So if i hold your hand and make you hit yourself doesnt that go against free will.
Well you can fight jinns if they are weak enough but in the majority of cases they are too strong as if a body builder was to take control of a baby the body builder would be physically too strong and can control the baby, if we take this analogy and apply this to ourselves the jinn is the bodybuilder stronger than us and we are the baby unable to resist because of the might of the jinn hence being possessed but if we for example to have enough imaan and in the analogies case grow up and build our bodies to the strenght of the bodybuilder than we can resist the jinn and the analogies case the bodybuilder.
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MuslimBro Fri, 18 Jul 2008 - 02:31
Re: existing jinns
Why.... what have you done?
Seraphim Fri, 18 Jul 2008 - 10:32
Re: existing jinns
Wow... is it that time of the year again, where we start telling ghost stories.
Like people, there are also crazy and evil Jinns and as such will be out to cause harm
Sumaiya Fri, 18 Jul 2008 - 10:37
Re: existing jinns
I have got some BIG STYLE jinn stories!
Naz Fri, 18 Jul 2008 - 16:00
Re: existing jinns
If you havent done anything then you havent got anything to worry about. 😃
Theyr not ghost stories. Jinns do exist and can harm ppl if you peev them off. I have never encountered a Jinn experience but if i did i will probably be freaked out for life.
Ya'qub Fri, 18 Jul 2008 - 16:09
Re: existing jinns
Why do people say '1 jinn' and 'many jinns'? 'jinn' is already the plural of jinni (genie).
ayesha d Fri, 18 Jul 2008 - 20:02
Re: existing jinns
i was gonna say dat and besides the letter 's' doesnt make summit plural in the arabic language
Seraphim Mon, 21 Jul 2008 - 14:04
Re: existing jinns
People often mistake one for the other sooo.... {forgets what point he was going to make... never mind lol}
You Mon, 21 Jul 2008 - 15:30
Re: existing jinns
Most of them probably false.
Jinn are used as a bogeyman to scare kids. Unfortunately, most kids grow up and still believe the stories wholesale. I guess the next generation will also believe in Santa Claus.
Others use them as "excuses" for bad behaviour or mental illness.
I have not seen any evidence that a Jinn can harm a human, nor do I think they can "Possess" others as that would seem to go against the basic free will that Allah (swt) has granted to humans.
Sumaiya Mon, 21 Jul 2008 - 16:47
Re: existing jinns
Actually they're real, we called a rukia man in and he said this is classic jinn behaviour
Ya'qub Mon, 21 Jul 2008 - 16:48
Re: existing jinns
how much did he charge for that amazing diagnoses?
You Mon, 21 Jul 2008 - 17:07
Re: existing jinns
😛
Sumaiya Mon, 21 Jul 2008 - 17:57
Re: existing jinns
this guy was authentic
Amal Mon, 21 Jul 2008 - 18:58
Re: existing jinns
There is scholastic disagreement as to whether Jinn posession (of humans) is possible. (I like to keep my options open on this one personally :o )
On the other hand, we humans have the ability to gain control of jinn - Ive learnt of a method (as explained from a very respected scholar, so authentic!) (not that I will ever use it!) :doubt: :shock:
You Mon, 21 Jul 2008 - 19:02
Re: existing jinns
How can there be a disagreement between scholars on this subject?
Either there have been documented, verifiable cases of it happening or there are not.
Amal Mon, 21 Jul 2008 - 19:25
Re: existing jinns
Like I said, scholastic disagreement - i.e. based on evidences from Qur'an and sunnah. Documented cases and whatsnot are a secondary (and of course evidentially supportive) matter.
Seraphim Mon, 21 Jul 2008 - 19:53
Re: existing jinns
Unlike angels, humans and Jinns have free will. So theoretically one can interfere in the lives of the other.
Sumaiya Mon, 21 Jul 2008 - 22:03
Re: existing jinns
one incident that happened a long time ago,
My elder brother got up in the middle of the night to visit the loo and on his way back to his room, he saw a tall white jinn praying in his room, obviously he was freaked coz i mean cmon, hes just seen a jinn, or probably back then he must of thought it a ghost!
Naz Tue, 22 Jul 2008 - 12:24
Re: existing jinns
But if a Jinn can take the form of a tree or car whats to say they cant possess humans?
Yes if a Jinn does harm/possess a human it does go against the freewill that Allah(swt) has given mankind BUT the Jinns are being tested too so if they do abuse the powers Allah(swt) has given them then clearly they will be punished for it.
Mankind does not have complete freewill anyway, some aspects of our lives are determined. Ie by making dua for something and then Allah(swt) granting it us.
Ya'qub Tue, 22 Jul 2008 - 13:39
Re: existing jinns
Who said a jinni can take the for of a car or a tree? I think you mean Transformers.
What if you driving you car down the motorway and then it suddenly changes into a tree? you'd be killed!
Anyway, about the du'aa....We choose what we make du'aa for. If we ask Allah (swt) to make us patient/kind, then that is OUR choice. We could easily choose to make du'aa that Allah (swt) changes our Horse Chestnut into an Aston Martin.
Seraphim Tue, 22 Jul 2008 - 13:49
Re: existing jinns
LOL, that made me laugh.
Naz Wed, 23 Jul 2008 - 18:14
Re: existing jinns
😂
I cant remember exactly where ( i have this habit of reading but not jotting down what i read and my memory is not as good as it use to be) but i did come across these:
Jinn
Jinn
If Jinns cant harm you then why are Muslims suppose to read Aaoodhu Billaahi min al-khubthi waal-khabaaaith when entering the bathroom? Its because they can harm humans hence why were told to read it.
Jinna do have more powers then mankind so whats to say they cant turn into a tree or car. The bad Jinns obviously have too much time on their hands so they torment humans. If i wasnt visible to mankind i would be very tempted to scare some puny human being muhahaha
Yaqab - whistling away
Naz - rustles
Yaqub - whose there?
Naz - continues to rustle
Yaqub - (Picks up pen as if its a sword) I know your there. Come out.
Naz - points and laughs
Ya'qub Wed, 23 Jul 2008 - 23:57
Re: existing jinns
Why are you rustling?
I don't think you'll be laughing when I attack you with my pen. You've seen Demolition Man, right?
Naz Fri, 25 Jul 2008 - 12:16
Re: existing jinns
Well i was trying to imagine what i would do if i was a Jinn. Ive come to the conclusion i just wouldnt be a very scary Jinn. Id probably get bullied by other Jinns for being so pathetic like Lenny (a vegi shark)did in shark tale because he wouldnt eat the fish.
If you cant see me then your stabbing into the air lol. Demolition Man.....hmmmm sounds familiar.
Funzo Sun, 3 Aug 2008 - 00:33
Re: existing jinns
So if i hold your hand and make you hit yourself doesnt that go against free will.
You Sun, 3 Aug 2008 - 00:55
Re: existing jinns
That is different from being "possessed" which I suggest may be total codswallop.
Funzo Sun, 3 Aug 2008 - 01:01
Re: existing jinns
why is it different? havent i tooken control of a certain part of your body?
You Sun, 3 Aug 2008 - 01:04
Re: existing jinns
which can fight (which would be the act of free will)? where there is a physical act of restraint?
oh, I forgot to mention, you would not be able to do that in the first place 😛
Funzo Sun, 3 Aug 2008 - 01:14
Re: existing jinns
Well you can fight jinns if they are weak enough but in the majority of cases they are too strong as if a body builder was to take control of a baby the body builder would be physically too strong and can control the baby, if we take this analogy and apply this to ourselves the jinn is the bodybuilder stronger than us and we are the baby unable to resist because of the might of the jinn hence being possessed but if we for example to have enough imaan and in the analogies case grow up and build our bodies to the strenght of the bodybuilder than we can resist the jinn and the analogies case the bodybuilder.
You Sun, 3 Aug 2008 - 01:42
Re: existing jinns
Not. The. Same. Thing.
Show me evidence that possessions can happen. Til that day I will maintain that is is all a hoax.
Seraphim Sun, 3 Aug 2008 - 10:01
Re: existing jinns
But you gotta admit they are entertaining stories.
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