Sheesha

Salaam

Many new restaurants are opening up in my local town centre which also serve sheesha.

Personally, smoking disgusts me.....my dad used to smoke and I used to avoid sitting next to him when he was smoking because the smell would go in my hair and clothes…

But a woman smoking puts me off, more so cos it’s just not “lady like”. Yeah I know, it’s unfair to consider female smokers more "disgusting" than male smokers, buts thats just my opinion…..

And these sheesha places that have opened up are only seem to attract the “wrong” type of crowd…they don’t look likes places where you can take your family to.

So what’s Sheesha all about? There are mixed opinions regarding its permissibility.

Is it just like smoking cigarettes? Is there any nicotine present in it? Is it addictive?

Is it a health hazard or just harmless fun? Can smoking apples and strawberry’s be bad for you?

Is it a Arab thing or a Pakistani thing?

(On a side note, I think that pipe thingy is so pretty…I saw it once in someone’s home, and would love to get one for my bedroom)

Wasalaam

interesting topic sis...

i remember when we went Pakistan when we were lil kids and me and my sisters went to 1 of our cousins house and the elderly ladies were all crowded around this pipe thing and we didnt have a clue what it was...we were like why the hell are they blowing in2 it lol

and then my sisters had a go...and started coughing and stuff straight after...lol...no i didnt have a go but looking back on it....that was soo bad...i mean lil kids smoking sheesha...not right at all....IMO its just like smoking and i hate smoking..

Sheesha is a stupid Arab thing

i bet the sick gremlin smokes it

Gods knows if its haraam/makruh

bottom line is-girls who smoke look off

"MuslimSisLilSis" wrote:
Sheesha is a stupid Arab thing

i bet the sick gremlin smokes it

Gods knows if its haraam/makruh

bottom line is-girls who smoke look off

as far as i know, the sheesha originated from the arab world.

its possible for it to be as harmful as the cigarette when it contains majority tobacco. but usually, people smoke fruit flavour which is harmless - there is stil tobacco used, but this is about 1% of the total mixture, the 99% is fruit molasses (tobacco is used to ensure that the molasses keeps burning).

i dont see anything particularly un-ladylike about using the sheesha (but i probably wouldnt do it out of my home). i have one at home and use it sometimes for fun - i share it with my siblings so its a family thing. Wink

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Aasiya what does it taste like? Is it worth me going to an over priced Arab resturant amongst sexists Arabs and trying it?

"MuslimSisLilSis" wrote:
Aasiya what does it taste like? Is it worth me going to an over priced Arab resturant amongst sexists Arabs and trying it?

Not unless you like the taste of fire in your throught,

not to mention the coughing.

Back in BLACK

Salam

"MuslimSister" wrote:
Many new restaurants are opening up in my local town centre which also serve sheesha.

Personally, smoking disgusts me... a woman smoking puts me off, more so cos it’s just not “lady like”.

So what’s Sheesha all about?

Is it a Arab thing or a Pakistani thing?

I hate smoking too. Especially women who want to act like males. They are disgusting.

As far I know this Sheesha smoking institution is a Paki invention. People have been smoking it in India ever since Muslims invaded that land.

It is called Hooka in Pakistan.

Its ok to smoke this thing where as it is not ok to smoke cigarettes because they are KNOWN to cause damage to your lungs. Hooka doesnt.

And we are NOT suppose to do anything that we KNOW to harm our body.

Omrow

"Omrow" wrote:

Its ok to smoke this thing where as it is not ok to smoke cigarettes because they are KNOWN to cause damage to your lungs. Hooka doesnt.

the omro is trying to lead me astray

"One sheesha water for a top Dubai hotel estimated fixing his customers' water pipes was the equivalent to "four or five full heads of tobacco."

One health professional said sheesha has the same dangers as smoking.

Sheesha, cigarettes and cigars cause cancer of the larynx, lungs, mouth and bladder, clogging of the arteries, heart attacks, strokes and stomach ulcers.

Nicotine and tar are still present in sheesha and it is not free from the harmful effects of smoke, said Dr Puri.

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"Seraph" wrote:
"MuslimSisLilSis" wrote:
Aasiya what does it taste like? Is it worth me going to an over priced Arab resturant amongst sexists Arabs and trying it?

Not unless you like the taste of fire in your throught,

not to mention the coughing.

lol sounds like u havent been smoking it properly! he he... Blum 3 Wink

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"MuslimSisLilSis" wrote:
Aasiya what does it taste like? Is it worth me going to an over priced Arab resturant amongst sexists Arabs and trying it?

hmm, y an 'over-priced' restaurant? most do offer it nowadays. but for your first time u probably dont want to try it in public coz u might be left coughing if u dont suck in the right way. if u know someone who has it at home, its fairly easy to fix up and use... i'd say thats preferable.

the taste depends on the flavour, i reckon apple is probably the best coz its flavour is the strongest. tho its rare, if u ever come across coca cola flavour dont bother trying it coz its disgusting. coconut flavour is usually really weak so u cant even taste it, not much point trying that one... definitely apple i'd say.

and btw, i dont think a coupla 'personal experiences' are enough reason to belittle an entire nation's people... its always refreshing to overcome such stereotypes and judge each individual u come across as exactly that: an individual; not an arab, or a pakistani, or anything else.

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"MuslimSisLilSis" wrote:
so hookah/sheesha dont contain nicotine-is that a fact?

lilsis, tobacco contains nicotine... so the stuff i sed in my first post about tobacco content in sheesha should answer ur Q.

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"Jihad Soldier" wrote:

Salam all

Ive only tried sheesha once, i had strawberry I believe, it was ok, my mates mango was better, but anyway, if all the effects of smoking sheesha are true then it is haram just like smoking.
Even thought smoking isnt mentioned in the Qu'ran, if you read between the lines its haram cos when u smoke u r damaging ur body and killing urself slowly,
the Prophet Muhammed (swt) said that the body's health and well-being takes precedence over ther person's wishes and desires, so really that means smoking is haram, and i guess can include being really fat as haram.
Also seeing as you are killing yourself when you smoke, even if u dont have the intention, it would count as a form of suicide and suicide is never forgiven, unless the person is not a right state of mind.
Even if sheesha only has 1% tobacco in it, thats still 1% damage to ur body, enough to finish u off, tht 1% damage is bring u 1% clsoer to hell, ya get me?,
Howeverm, to tell the truth, if it does only have 1% tobacoo in it then I would probabley be tempted in smoking it again,

Take care all,

Allah Au Akbar!,

Allah Hafis.

bro, sheesha is in no way addictive, as cigarettes are. cigarettes cause lung cancer, but not just with one puff - its the addictiveness and prolonged use which kills the person.
if i was addicted to the sheesha i cud literally smoke it all the time since i have one at home - but it is reserved for times when friends or family members are over, just for the fun of doing something unusal. this only happens like every coupla months, so i dont see any harm in it.

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"Aasiyah" wrote:
"Seraph" wrote:
"MuslimSisLilSis" wrote:
Aasiya what does it taste like? Is it worth me going to an over priced Arab resturant amongst sexists Arabs and trying it?

Not unless you like the taste of fire in your throught,

not to mention the coughing.

lol sounds like u havent been smoking it properly! he he... Blum 3 Wink

What, i must have been 10 at the time...

Back in BLACK

if sheesha contains nicotine then it IS addictive

but to a lesser extent then smoking fags

i smoked a sheesha in Egypt everbody including women smoke it there in open air restaurants and compared to smoking cigarettes it was very mild

to me it was just a gimmik and it had no nicotine in it

however a hooka is something totally different and this is a Pakstani custom all the ladies especially the very old ones in my dad's family smoke it and it is addictive because it has a lot of tobacco in it and is too strong for even me!

I would think sheesha is addictive and contains nicotine or somethin of the sort cuz if it dont then why do ppl smoke it???

Anythin that has small or large amounts of intoxication is said to be haram..

"angel" wrote:
I would think sheesha is addictive and contains nicotine or somethin of the sort cuz if it dont then why do ppl smoke it???

Anythin that has small or large amounts of intoxication is said to be haram..

i thought i'd already cleared this misconception in my previous post, but it looks like i havent. SHEESHA (containing the usual fruit flavouring) IS NOT ADDICTIVE! and angel ppl do not smoke it because it's addictive (unless they smoke it with tobacco content alone, as almas was explaining) but simply because its a recreational activity, something to do with friends. as i tried explaining in my previous post, if the common sheesha was really addictive i'd probably b hooked by now - in our living room at home, we have a Playstation and a sheesha. when friends come over, we chill out with either or both... its not as if i feel compelled to use it regularly... :roll: so i can say with certainty that the common sheesha (read previous post for description of content) is not at all addictive.

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Salam

"MuslimSisLilSis" wrote:
omro is trying to lead me astray

One health professional said sheesha has the same dangers as smoking

Listen furball. I know you have problem concentrating, but this is no excuse to go ahead and say something is forbidden.

If you read the words of your "professional" carefully, you will find that what he actually said was that it is all the extra bananas they put in the hooka that makes it dangerous.

Pure tabacco on its own is NOT harmful. Adding strawberries to it is !!

God !!

And you, Islamic Soldier.

It is not harmful if you do it right. Just dont be adding bananas in that pipe.

So dont worry. If you want to do it then do it.

Just smoke it Soldier !!

I wouldn't smoke the thing myself. Why waste money on tabacco when you can waste it in pursuit on some real WINE.

Omrow

"Omrow" wrote:
Why waste money on tabacco when you can waste it in pursuit on some real WINE.

Binger.

"Aasiyah" wrote:
[. its not as if i feel compelled to use it regularly... :roll: so i can say with certainty that the common sheesha (read previous post for description of content) is not at all addictive.

whether u are addictve to it or not doesnt matter

fact remians that it contains nicotine which is harmful to the body and can be addictive

"Aasiyah" wrote:
"angel" wrote:
I would think sheesha is addictive and contains nicotine or somethin of the sort cuz if it dont then why do ppl smoke it???

Anythin that has small or large amounts of intoxication is said to be haram..

i thought i'd already cleared this misconception in my previous post, but it looks like i havent. SHEESHA (containing the usual fruit flavouring) IS NOT ADDICTIVE! and angel ppl do not smoke it because it's addictive (unless they smoke it with tobacco content alone, as almas was explaining) but simply because its a recreational activity, something to do with friends. as i tried explaining in my previous post, if the common sheesha was really addictive i'd probably b hooked by now - in our living room at home, we have a Playstation and a sheesha. when friends come over, we chill out with either or both... its not as if i feel compelled to use it regularly... :roll: so i can say with certainty that the common sheesha (read previous post for description of content) is not at all addictive.

ok my mistake, so its just a social thing people do with friends and its non-addictive got it!

"MuslimSisLilSis" wrote:

"One sheesha water for a top Dubai hotel estimated fixing his customers' water pipes was the equivalent to "four or five full heads of tobacco."

One health professional said sheesha has the same dangers as smoking.

Sheesha, cigarettes and cigars cause cancer of the larynx, lungs, mouth and bladder, clogging of the arteries, heart attacks, strokes and stomach ulcers.

Nicotine and tar are still present in sheesha and it is not free from the harmful effects of smoke, said Dr Puri.

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angel check out the above link

this aint a black and white issue

Right here we go,,

this is taken from my packets of mollases tobbaco i bought from Jordan last summer the flavours including cherry, mango, apple, bannana, mint, watermelon etc etc.

All the boxes have the same details and they are different brands.

''Components tobacco + mollases + preservatives + flavour
Nicotine 0.5%
Tar 0.0%

I have to say i didnt like the arabs being sexist bull shhh but watever.
My mums English, lived in many places my dads worked kuwait,dubai emirates etc and she has never found a reason to say arabs are sexist so i dunno were u get that from.

And the shesha is an Arab thing water pipe, Irgieli, hubble bubble watever u wanna call it its arab.

I probs smoke it maybe once a month if that and im sure in the right proportions it should be ok.

Unless u can get to the middle east u wanna shop around cos ull probs get ripped off, mine was the equivalent of 5 quid and it is stunning bought from al balad in Jordan.

A clever mind can entertain a thought without accepting it