An interesting news report:
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Licence to lie for Italian women
Italy's highest appeal court has ruled that married Italian women who commit adultery are entitled to lie about it to protect their honour.
The court gave its landmark ruling after hearing the case of a 48-year-old woman, convicted of giving false testimony to police by denying she had lent her mobile phone to her lover.
The appeal court did not agree that she had broken the law.
It said bending the truth was justified to conceal extra-marital relationships.
In a predominantly Catholic country you might expect the courts to take a dim view of lying and adultery.
[b]But not in this case.[/b]
The woman who brought the appeal was from Porto Ercole on the Tuscany coast, and named only as Carla.
She had lent her telephone to her secret lover, Giovanni, who then used it to call Carla's estranged husband, Vincenzo, and insult him.
Giovanni, the lover, was convicted of abusive behaviour in a local court, and Carla convicted as an accessory.
[b]Controversial judgements[/b]
But the Court of Cassation found that having a lover was a circumstance that damaged the honour of the person among family and friends.
Lying about it, therefore, was permitted, even in a judicial investigation.
It is not yet clear whether the ruling might also apply to men who have secret mistresses.
The Court of Cassation, which is largely staffed by elderly male appeal judges, has in the past issued a number of controversial judgements.
It once gave a ruling, later rescinded after protests from women's groups, that a woman could not be raped by definition if she was wearing tight jeans, since the jeans could only be removed with her consent.
Aren't Muslims allowed to lie to their spouses?
Don't just do something! Stand there.
Never heard that before.
The only known case I know of is where it is permissible to lie to join a broken family. (it may be a little more specific - lie to husband and wife. "Yes s/he was talking about you all the time and about how s/he missed you" instead of "S/he called you a treacherous £W$%£$")
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
I thought the hadith states that the only times a Muslim can lie is in three cases:
during wartime.
to a spouse to make them happy (i.e. "yes, that dress looks lovely and you don't look fat").
to reconcile friends who aren't talking to each other.
Can't find the hadith right now, but I will try if noone else can
Don't just do something! Stand there.
Yah but can't remember the reasons. will have to do some research.
Humaid b. 'Abd al-Rahman b. 'Auf reported that his mother Umm Kulthum daughter of 'Uqba b. Abu Mu'ait, and she was one amongst the first emigrants who pledged allegiance to Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him), as saying that she heard Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: A liar is not one who tries to bring reconciliation amongst people and speaks good (in order to avert dispute), or he conveys good. Ibn Shihab said he did not hear that exemption was granted in anything what the people speak as lie but in three cases: in battle, for bringing reconciliation amongst persons and the narration of the words of the husband to wife, and the narration of the words of a wife to her husband (in a twisted form in order to bring reconciliation between them). Narrated in Sahih Muslim, v4, p1373,
Thanks.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.