Do you believe in a blood thirsty god?

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lol at you calling every1 here a brelwi.

your brainwashed kid

The Lover is ever drunk with love;
He is free, he is mad,
He dances with ecstasy and delight.

Caught by our own thoughts,
We worry about every little thing,
But once we get drunk on that love,
Whatever will be, will be.

ɐɥɐɥ

"Hayder Hussain" wrote:
lol at you calling every1 here a brelwi.

your brainwashed kid

what ever you called den :roll: ... i don't give a damn what ya called ya all the same to me :roll: ...

PS i am not a submitter, whabi or brelvis :!: ...

What you put in the hearts of others; is what goes back into your own heart…

"Judda" wrote:

what ever you called den :roll: ... i don't give a damn what ya called ya all the same to me :roll: ...

Who is all the same to you?

Why are they the same to you?

No offense but i call them 'muhammedens'....

What you put in the hearts of others; is what goes back into your own heart…

"Judda" wrote:
No offense but i call them 'muhammedens'....

Who are these 'muhammedens'?

Why call them 'muhammedens'?

What makes them different from you?

i dont think he knows himself.

everyday he wakes up, checks the submission website, finds out what cr*p they believe in, and distributes it across the forum

i truly believe he doesnt know what he is talking about, go back to school kid

The Lover is ever drunk with love;
He is free, he is mad,
He dances with ecstasy and delight.

Caught by our own thoughts,
We worry about every little thing,
But once we get drunk on that love,
Whatever will be, will be.

ɐɥɐɥ

"Judda" wrote:
No offense or anything but you brelvis get annoyed very easily, every time i open my mouth i am disrespecting you, gimmee a list of stuff you dont want me to say then i wont say it...

first of all dont label everyone as brelwi...
read the Rules again....

do us all a favour and say something sensible and useful for once

 

"irfghan" wrote:
"Judda" wrote:
No offense but i call them 'muhammedens'....

Who are these 'muhammedens'?

Why call them 'muhammedens'?

What makes them different from you?

They believe Muhammad is a mercy to mankind, I believe Muhammad’s mission was to deliver the Koran and the Koran was a mercy for those who CHOSE TO BELIEVE.

They believe the only reason we were created was cause of Muhammad, I believe the only reason we were created was cause of God.

"Hayder Hussain" wrote:
i dont think he knows himself.

everyday he wakes up, checks the submission website, finds out what cr*p they believe in, and distributes it across the forum

i truly believe he doesnt know what he is talking about, go back to school kid

I am NOT a submitter but cause I believe with ONE thing they say you accuse me of being a submitter… me confused? No your just to narrow minded to realise that there are people with different beliefs then you, ACCEPT IT the ummah is becoming more and more divided by the day…

Remember who Allah guides no one can misguide and whoever Allah misguides no one can guide, count how times that is written in the Koran, you would be amazed!…

What you put in the hearts of others; is what goes back into your own heart…

"Judda" wrote:
count how times that is written in the Koran, you would be amazed!…

LOL

I've noticed that them weirdo's LOVE counting stuff in the quran BiggrinBiggrin

thats all they seem to do

"MuslimSisLilSis" wrote:
"Judda" wrote:
count how times that is written in the Koran, you would be amazed!…

LOL

I've noticed that them weirdo's LOVE counting stuff in the quran BiggrinBiggrin

thats all they seem to do

your problem is?

What you put in the hearts of others; is what goes back into your own heart…

no problem

it dont bother me if u people like to prove to others that u know how to count

btw I too count sheeps every night-it helps me to go to sleep at night

"MuslimSisLilSis" wrote:
no problem

it dont bother me if u people like to prove to others that u know how to count

btw I too count sheeps every night-it helps me to go to sleep at night

Not funny!

Why did you call 'us' wierdos for?

BTW who told you what sect i belonged to?

What you put in the hearts of others; is what goes back into your own heart…

no one told me nothing

and frankly I dont care what sect u do or dont belong to

I'm just making fun out of ur lamo obsession with proving to others u know how to count

"Judda"][quote="irfghan" wrote:
"Judda" wrote:
No offense but i call them 'muhammedens'....

Who are these 'muhammedens'?

Why call them 'muhammedens'?

What makes them different from you?

They believe Muhammad is a mercy to mankind, I believe Muhammad’s mission was to deliver the Koran and the Koran was a mercy for those who CHOSE TO BELIEVE.

They believe the only reason we were created was cause of Muhammad, I believe the only reason we were created was cause of God.

[quote]

[u]The Prophet as a mercy to mankind:[/u]
READ THE QURAN:The Prophet Muhammad is introduced in the Qur’an in these words:.
[b]And We have not sent you except as a mercy to mankind" (Surah Al-Anbiyah 21:107)[/b]

[u]They believe the only reason we were created was cause of Muhammad[/u]

This is not a major part of anyones belief. It is not a part of aqeedah. Many scholars from every school of thought quote a hadith Qudsi similar to:
Allah Almighty stated If it wasn't for Muhammad I would not have created the worlds'.
Shaykh Hamza Yusuf has quoted this on several occasions and he is not brelwi or any of the rubbish you state!

Now if you call people brelwi or Muhammadens because of the two above reasons then EVERY MUSLIM from all sects, groups are brelwis.

Why do ppl on this forum have to waste their time arguing over stupid little things with you. :evil:

 

i know submitters got dis obsession wid couting... who sed i got dat 2... i just merely pointed something written in the koran sevaral times (u c he has been bugging dis athiest dude at work)....

As 4 submitters 'counting obsession' what do you think about the mathamatical code in the koran? do u believe it it? infact do you even get it? shame about the bloke who cracked it, he claimed to b a prophet..

What you put in the hearts of others; is what goes back into your own heart…

"TheRevivalEditor"][quote="Judda" wrote:
"irfghan" wrote:
"Judda" wrote:
No offense but i call them 'muhammedens'....

Who are these 'muhammedens'?

Why call them 'muhammedens'?

What makes them different from you?

They believe Muhammad is a mercy to mankind, I believe Muhammad’s mission was to deliver the Koran and the Koran was a mercy for those who CHOSE TO BELIEVE.

They believe the only reason we were created was cause of Muhammad, I believe the only reason we were created was cause of God.

quote]

[u]The Prophet as a mercy to mankind:[/u]
READ THE QURAN:The Prophet Muhammad is introduced in the Qur’an in these words:.
[b]And We have not sent you except as a mercy to mankind" (Surah Al-Anbiyah 21:107)[/b]

[u]They believe the only reason we were created was cause of Muhammad[/u]

This is not a major part of anyones belief. It is not a part of aqeedah. Many scholars from every school of thought quote a hadith Qudsi similar to:
Allah Almighty stated If it wasn't for Muhammad I would not have created the worlds'.
Shaykh Hamza Yusuf has quoted this on several occasions and he is not brelwi or any of the rubbish you state!

Now if you call people brelwi or Muhammadens because of the two above reasons then EVERY MUSLIM from all sects, groups are brelwis.

Why do ppl on this forum have to waste their time arguing over stupid little things with you. :evil:

whoe whoe whoe calm down, i'll c for mi self pal! i don't have arabic text here do i

What you put in the hearts of others; is what goes back into your own heart…

"Judda" wrote:
i know submitters got dis obsession wid couting... who sed i got dat 2... i just merely pointed something written in the koran sevaral times (u c he has been bugging dis athiest dude at work)....

As 4 submitters 'counting obsession' what do you think about the mathamatical code in the koran? do u believe it it? infact do you even get it? shame about the bloke who cracked it, he claimed to b a prophet..

there are 76 words in that post above

i wasted 30 seconds of my time counting it

I dont know how u weirdo's spend all ur time doing this :roll:

"MuslimSisLilSis" wrote:
"Judda" wrote:
i know submitters got dis obsession wid couting... who sed i got dat 2... i just merely pointed something written in the koran sevaral times (u c he has been bugging dis athiest dude at work)....

As 4 submitters 'counting obsession' what do you think about the mathamatical code in the koran? do u believe it it? infact do you even get it? shame about the bloke who cracked it, he claimed to b a prophet..

there are 76 words in that post above

i wasted 30 seconds of my time counting it

I dont know how u weirdo's spend all ur time doing this :roll:

who's 'you wierdos' u don't know what sect i belong 2 do u...

What you put in the hearts of others; is what goes back into your own heart…

"Judda" wrote:

who's 'you wierdos' u don't know what sect i belong 2 do u...

big deal-if I'm generalising and assuming

ur doing the same thing by calling all of us brewli's and graveworshippers

even though NONE of us are

i guess ur love of generalising (and counting Wink ) is contagious

ok :roll:

What you put in the hearts of others; is what goes back into your own heart…

"Judda" wrote:
ok :roll:

ONE word

and if u multiply one by two its TWO words

and if u divide two by one its ONE word again

wow-this is fun I see why u weirdo's love doing this Biggrin

"MuslimSisLilSis" wrote:
"Judda" wrote:
i know submitters got dis obsession wid couting... who sed i got dat 2... i just merely pointed something written in the koran sevaral times (u c he has been bugging dis athiest dude at work)....

As 4 submitters 'counting obsession' what do you think about the mathamatical code in the koran? do u believe it it? infact do you even get it? shame about the bloke who cracked it, he claimed to b a prophet..

there are 76 words in that post above

i wasted 30 seconds of my time counting it

I dont know how u weirdo's spend all ur time doing this :roll:

actully some of them are numbers, and some are just letters (i.e. c=see)

What you put in the hearts of others; is what goes back into your own heart…

"MuslimSisLilSis" wrote:
"Judda" wrote:
ok :roll:

ONE word

and if u multiply one by two its TWO words

and if u divide two by one its ONE word again

wow-this is fun I see why u weirdo's love doing this Biggrin

lol, thats funny.

Mayb nxt you should assign a number to every letter then count the number see what magical number you come out with.

Back in BLACK

THE CODE - SIMPLE FACTS
[think of number 19]
u need 2 know arabic first Dirol
then you need to learn to count....

£50 that no Paki gets this?

Though the code was initially discovered by examining the occurrences of Quranic initials in the initialed chapters of Quran, there is a large number of much less complex parameters to the code. Here is a brief listing of some of them:

1.There are 114 chapters in the Quran, or 19 x 6.

2.The total number of verses in the Quran is 6346, or 19 x 334.

3.Then you add the 30 different numbers which are mentioned in the Quran's text (i.e. one God, two brothers, etc.), the total is 162146 or 19 x 8534.

4.The first statement in Quran, "In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful" consists of 19 Arabic letters. Known as the `Basmalah', it prefaces every chapter except Chapter 9.

5.Though missing from Chapter 9, exactly 19 chapters later the Basmalah occurs twice. Chapter 27 has this statement at its beginning and in verse 30. This makes the total number of times the Basmalah occurs in the Quran 114, or 19 x 6.

6.Since there are 19 chapters between the missing Basmalah and the extra one, the sum of those chapter numbers is a multiple of 19. (The sum of any 19 consecutive numbers is a multiple of 19.) But the total, 342, is also the exact number of words between the two occurrences of the Basmalah in Chapter 27. This number, 342, is 19 x 18.

7.Every word in the Basmalah occurs throughout the Quran a number of times which is a multiple of 19.

8.The very first revelation that was given to the prophet of Islam, Mohammed, came as 19 words.

9.The total number of letters making up the 19 words of the first revelation is 76, 19 x 4.

10.Though they were the first revelation, these verses are placed at the beginning of Chapter 96. This chapter is atop the last 19 chapters.

11.Chapter 96 consists of 304 Arabic letters, or 19 x 16.

12.The last chapter revealed (Chapter 110) has 19 words, and its first verse is 19 letters.

13.God's name in Arabic, `Allah,' occurs in the Quran 2698 times, or 19 x 142.

14.If you add the numbers of the verses where `Allah' occurs, the total is 118123 or 19 x 6217.

15.The main message in the Quran is that there is only One God. The number of times that the word `one' is used to refer to this concept of One God is 19.

16.The word `Quran' occurs in 38 different chapters, or 19 x 2.

17.The total number of times `the Quran' is mentioned is 57, 19 x 3.

18.Within the 114 chapters of the Quran, 29 of them begin with the Quranic initials discussed earlier. Intermixed between the first initialed chapter (Chapter 2) and the last initialed chapter (Chapter 68) are 38 non-initialed chapters, or 19 x 2.

19.In that same group of chapters, from Chapter 2 to Chapter 68, there are 19 alternating sets of initialed and non-initialed chapters.

20.The total number of verses making up this group of chapters is 5263, 19 x 277.

21.Within this group of chapters there are also 2641 occurrences of the word `Allah', or 19 x 139. Of course, that leaves 57, or 19 x 3, occurrences of that word outside of this group.

22.If you add the chapter and verse numbers of the 57 occurrences of `Allah' outside the initialed section, the total is 2432 or 19 x 128.

23.There are a large number of discoveries having to do with the numbers of the chapters and verses. Many of them are very complex and interrelated. Here is a simple one to give you a feel for these discoveries: If you add the numbers assigned to all the chapters, plus the numbers assigned to all of the verses, plus the number of verses in the Quran, the total is 346199 or 19 x 19 x 959.

24.If you look at the initialed chapters separately and add the chapter numbers, verse numbers and number of verses, the total is 190133, 19 x 10007. Of course it follows that the total for the uninitialed chapters, 156066, is also divisible by 19.

PS not a submitter, but still love counting :o

What you put in the hearts of others; is what goes back into your own heart…

Lets for a second humor u and assume the above is remotely true.

Whats its relavance?

Back in BLACK

"Seraph" wrote:
Lets for a second humor u and assume the above is remotely true.

Whats its relavance?

how many letters are there in bismillah (remember in arabic)

You can check it all out on a computer pal...

cum to mi house for alu gobi mate and i will tell u all about it...

not happy with rashad khalifas claims of being a prophet though...

What you put in the hearts of others; is what goes back into your own heart…

hey im 19 Biggrin can the honourable Juddah Buddah reveal the significance on his beloved number 19?

The Lover is ever drunk with love;
He is free, he is mad,
He dances with ecstasy and delight.

Caught by our own thoughts,
We worry about every little thing,
But once we get drunk on that love,
Whatever will be, will be.

ɐɥɐɥ

Dont the Qadiani's have something similar.

BTW isn't this similar to a book called the Bible Code? Anyone read it, know what it's about?

"Judda" wrote:

PS not a submitter, but still love counting :o

Just cause you ain't been through the 'initiation ceremony'.

If you really are not a 'submitter', then where do you get your Islmaic knowledge from? name some scholars or some books that you adhere to.

"yashmaki" wrote:
carry on kidding yourself you sure don't sound muslim. You belittle muhammed (saw). You deny passages of the Quran and just like that nutter Richard Kalif aka Rashid Khalifa you're obsessed with the number 19! Plus you say your family member is affiliated with the submitters. You big up their beleifs and seem to hold them yourself yet you're trying to pretend you're a muslim. You call those who follow orthodox Islam "muhammadans" in your lame attempts to ridicule them. Insha'Allah we shall see if you're laughing when you meet your creator. You have some kinder warped sense of humour which verges on blasphemy and utter contempt for those who believe the Quran, in it's entirety is the word of God.

Muslim or not that ain't the point have a bit of respect for orthodox Islam. If that's beyond you leave off go count with your abacus elsewhere.

Shame on you so called admins what are doing, have you retired? Don't tell me he's entitled to free speech. Free speech comes within boundaries. You set the boundaries for this forum yet you seem to have forgotten them? Maybe we should all break the rules join judda.

salaam

judda has been warned plenty of times, many of his posts have been deleted, he has been corrected especially when he is blasphemous.... but i think the time has come to ban him, im sure everyone agrees. we have tried to advice the chap to be careful what he says, but obviously he continues to ignore us...so that only means one thing.

wasalaam

 

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