Submitted by *DUST* on 19 January, 2006 - 21:48 #181
"Med" wrote:
There is no benefit in going into lists of people.
oh ofcourse there isn't.
because that would mean giving a face to [i]their[/i] dead - God forbid, we wouldnt want to take them out of their de-humanised state now would we, we might end up feeling [i]sorry[/i] for them.
:roll:
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[size=9]I NEVER WORE IT BECAUSE OF THE TALIBAN, MOTHER. I LIKE THE [b]MODESTY[/b] AND [b]PROTECTION[/b] IT AFFORDS ME FROM THE EYES OF MEN.[/size] [url=http://www.adherents.com/lit/comics/Dust.html]Dust, X-Men[/url]
Submitted by Medarris on 19 January, 2006 - 21:52 #182
"*DUST*" wrote:
"Med" wrote:
There is no benefit in going into lists of people.
oh ofcourse there isn't.
because that would mean giving a face to [i]their[/i] dead - God forbid, we wouldnt want to take them out of their de-humanised state now would we, we might end up feeling [i]sorry[/i] for them.
:roll:
You have misunderstood me.
If any1 wants to give lists of dead as Dave did, then they should list dead on both sides.
Aasiyah, trying tp paint me as dehumanising the western dead is not gonna work. Alhamdulillah i have made clear i dont like US army.
i have also made clear that innocents deaths on all sides are equal. If you or any1 else tries to insinuate or suggest that I am dehumanising or devaluing one side then thats your own choice.
All my posts here have alhamdulillh been consistent.
—
Ya ALLAH Madad.
Haq Chaar Yaar
Submitted by Dave on 19 January, 2006 - 22:01 #183
Nah med's got a point - it's absurd and hypocritical for americans to list off all their dead and pretend our hands aren't bloody too.
At least our dead have names - I don't know the name of one single child that was killed to my cheering when I thought we were killing Zawahiri a couple days ago.
Like I said before Zawahiri isn't worth this.
That said - I was talkin exclusively to Ziggy. Whereas I at least admit what we do and condemn it with moderate hypocrisy - Ziggy is glorifying that civilian beheading animal - and as yall know im a hot head I don't mind shoving his face in what his heros been up to. Aasiyah knows that and that's what shes talkin abuot
yall are on different wavelengths
So lets not have any arguments stemming from comments I made directly toward Ziggy.
I dont want anybody confusin med for ziggy - he didn't know some of the stuff zig was sayin and he apologised for having defended him and he joined in the chorus askin for him to apologize to lilsis.
Submitted by Medarris on 19 January, 2006 - 22:08 #184
mashaALLAH, as usual a voice of reason bruv.
may ALLAH ennoble your heart with imaan. ameen [size=7]hehehe[/size]
If some people want to box me into one category cos that makes it easy for them then Im all for whatever makes othres lives easier.
Even if it is deliberately ignoring a number of my posts which have been saying the same tihng over and over.
Some people just like to be biased, good for them, we cant all be unbiased.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
Submitted by Medarris on 19 January, 2006 - 22:16 #186
"Admin" wrote:
Med you are wrong.
You always will be.
abt what?
—
Ya ALLAH Madad.
Haq Chaar Yaar
Submitted by *DUST* on 19 January, 2006 - 22:18 #187
"Don Karnage" wrote:
That said - I was talkin exclusively to Ziggy. Whereas I at least admit what we do and condemn it with moderate hypocrisy - Ziggy is glorifying that civilian beheading animal - and as yall know im a hot head I don't mind shoving his face in what his heros been up to. Aasiyah knows that and that's what shes talkin abuot
exactly - Med i thought u were making an unfair comment considering u were addressing Dave - we all know him, he's an old member, and we KNOW that he doesnt weigh muslim deaths any less than those of non-musims.
if it was a random new member u wer making the comment to, i wouldnt have questioned it.
but uv clarified that i guess so fair enuf, i'll let it drop.
sorry if u feel i insulted u.
wassalaam.
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[size=9]I NEVER WORE IT BECAUSE OF THE TALIBAN, MOTHER. I LIKE THE [b]MODESTY[/b] AND [b]PROTECTION[/b] IT AFFORDS ME FROM THE EYES OF MEN.[/size] [url=http://www.adherents.com/lit/comics/Dust.html]Dust, X-Men[/url]
Submitted by Medarris on 19 January, 2006 - 22:20 #188
"*DUST*" wrote:
sorry if u feel i insulted u.
wassalaam.
Im used to it.
Daves comment was to Zarqa, I took it to be for every1 and so responded.
I know that mashaALLAH Dave is a good geeza, dont wanna say too much, next man might get a big head!
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
Submitted by Medarris on 19 January, 2006 - 22:28 #190
[size=18][b]OR . . .[/b][/size]
Im right abt everything.
only time will tell.
tick tock tick tock
—
Ya ALLAH Madad.
Haq Chaar Yaar
Submitted by *DUST* on 19 January, 2006 - 22:30 #191
"Med" wrote:
"*DUST*" wrote:
sorry if u feel i insulted u.
wassalaam.
Im used to it.
oh puhleez dont play that 'victimised' stunt with me or i may b forced to retract my statement... :roll:
"Med" wrote:
Daves comment was to Zarqa, I took it to be for every1 and so responded.
I know that mashaALLAH Dave is a good geeza, dont wanna say too much, next man might get a big head!
now uv misunderstood [i]my[/i] post - who Dave addressed in his post was irrelevant, the point i was making is that because it was Dave who made the 'list', ur reply wasnt applicable because we KNOW that he doesnt deny the death of Muslims...
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[size=9]I NEVER WORE IT BECAUSE OF THE TALIBAN, MOTHER. I LIKE THE [b]MODESTY[/b] AND [b]PROTECTION[/b] IT AFFORDS ME FROM THE EYES OF MEN.[/size] [url=http://www.adherents.com/lit/comics/Dust.html]Dust, X-Men[/url]
Submitted by Dave on 19 January, 2006 - 22:31 #192
"Med" wrote:
tick tock tick tock
IT'S A BOMB!!!!
DUUUUUUUUCK!!!
Submitted by Medarris on 19 January, 2006 - 22:33 #193
lol @ dave.
Aasiyah do what you like. I am not bothered either way. and i mean that in a nice way.
—
Ya ALLAH Madad.
Haq Chaar Yaar
Submitted by Dave on 20 January, 2006 - 22:12 #194
"Don Karnage" wrote:
How many people on this forum have lost somebody they knew as either a result of terrorism, or the military response to it?
Anybody else want to take a stab at answering this one it's been on my mind for a while?
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
Near the village in kashmir where we have alot of relatives there was a terrorist bombing a few years ago. Some people died. I cannot remember if any relatives died though... (it has been pointed out that I am cold hearted...)
(and this links in with the Kashmir topic... the bomber was caught trying to get across the border...)
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"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
Submitted by Dave on 21 January, 2006 - 01:25 #197
"Admin" wrote:
I am changing the above.
Near the village in kashmir where we have alot of relatives there was a terrorist bombing a few years ago. Some people died. I cannot remember if any relatives died though... (it has been pointed out that I am cold hearted...)
(and this links in with the Kashmir topic... the bomber was caught trying to get across the border...)
No need to be sorry. I am pretty sure that people died though... but cannot really recall...
I am not 100% sure... but from the way it was described, he infiltrated pakistani held kashmir for his mission... was slightly injured... and when he tried to return to indian held kashmir some people became suspicious...
So he was probably of Indian origin.
That is the ONLY time I think such an event has occurred near this area. Terrorism was virtually unheard of there.
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"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
Submitted by Dave on 21 January, 2006 - 01:40 #199
Wow... that's messed up.
I've heard the Indians complain before about terrorism being used against them in Kashmir. - Two way street apparently.
This must have been a while ago judging by how hazy you seem to be on the details... were you pretty young?
Its just something I totally forgot about til now.
I cannot remember much at all about it though...
(its only recently my memmory ash turned into a sieve... I have forgotten alot of spelling aswell.... and now I cannot remember names at all... but I remember alot of things from when I was younger...)
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"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
Submitted by Dave on 21 January, 2006 - 02:05 #201
"Admin" wrote:
It was between 2 and 7 years ago.
Its just something I totally forgot about til now.
I cannot remember much at all about it though...
(its only recently my memmory ash turned into a sieve... I have forgotten alot of spelling aswell.... and now I cannot remember names at all... but I remember alot of things from when I was younger...)
It's weird the stuff you remember and the stuff you don't with tragedies like that... I just recently called my friend (haven't talked to him in a while) to tell him i'm getting married and I wanted him to be one of my men of honor - I left basically the longest voicemail you've ever seen.
And when I hung up I realized he was in fact dead - killed in Iraq, and I had been to his funeral talked to his family and very much knew he was dead.
I can remember what I ate for breakfast when I got the call but I couldn't remember he was actually dead when I made my call recently.
was that a personal mobile... or was it the family phone? that could be very painful...
For me its just recently that I have almost lost the ability to remember.
as a kid I used to pretend my memory was not as good as it was.
As study I used to quickly scan over pages just looking at them, but not really reading anything... (this was pointed out to me. I did not realise at first! and I am a slow reader. so slow I can read english the same speed upside down as the right way up! (helps alot on a train when you forget the paper! I do not have photographic memory even though I would love to have it. At the same time I wanna forget some things which I do not seem to have the ability to forget...)
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"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
Submitted by Dave on 21 January, 2006 - 02:16 #203
"Admin" wrote:
painful.
was that a personal mobile... or was it the family phone? that could be very painful...
For me its just recently that I have almost lost the ability to remember.
as a kid I used to pretend my memory was not as good as it was.
As study I used to quickly scan over pages just looking at them, but not really reading anything... (this was pointed out to me. I did not realise at first! and I am a slow reader. so slow I can read english the same speed upside down as the right way up! (helps alot on a train when you forget the paper! I do not have photographic memory even though I would love to have it. At the same time I wanna forget some things which I do not seem to have the ability to forget...)
His cell... his parents still pay his Car insurance (I think)
They are having a hard time of it... his sister is really in trouble, I worry about her a lot, she's a really sweet girl but she's getting in with a bad crowd.
But yea... when I realized what happened it hit hard. I've been a little weird lately.
Hey maybe you shuold get that checked... lol sounds like the early stages of dementia or something
The other symptoms being for the last couple of years I am almost always mentally tired. I can sleep without waking for 18-20 hours straight if not woken by alarm or someone else...
and for the last few years I have not had the will to do anything at all...
Could be serious... but I doubt it.
The worst thing is I ran into this guy I worked with for 6 months. he now works where I work. I have not told him, but I have no recollection of him whatsoever. But then again, even in my younger days I was not good at remembering people or faces...
[EDIT]
I have diagnosed the disease. It is very dangerous. It is chronic laziness.
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"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
Submitted by Dave on 21 January, 2006 - 02:39 #205
More virulent than bird flu. It can even contaminate across cyberspace!
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"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
Submitted by Dave on 21 January, 2006 - 02:48 #207
lol I also notice it comes with age and responsibility. The greater the responsibility - the more obvious the symptoms
Do you think they will give us a nobel prize for this discovery?
you write the letter to inform the judges about it.
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"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
Submitted by Dave on 21 January, 2006 - 02:57 #209
"Admin" wrote:
you write the letter to inform the judges about it.
Maybe later
Submitted by Medarris on 21 January, 2006 - 13:21 #210
oh ofcourse there isn't.
because that would mean giving a face to [i]their[/i] dead - God forbid, we wouldnt want to take them out of their de-humanised state now would we, we might end up feeling [i]sorry[/i] for them.
:roll:
[size=9]I NEVER WORE IT BECAUSE OF THE TALIBAN, MOTHER. I LIKE THE [b]MODESTY[/b] AND [b]PROTECTION[/b] IT AFFORDS ME FROM THE EYES OF MEN.[/size] [url=http://www.adherents.com/lit/comics/Dust.html]Dust, X-Men[/url]
You have misunderstood me.
If any1 wants to give lists of dead as Dave did, then they should list dead on both sides.
Aasiyah, trying tp paint me as dehumanising the western dead is not gonna work. Alhamdulillah i have made clear i dont like US army.
i have also made clear that innocents deaths on all sides are equal. If you or any1 else tries to insinuate or suggest that I am dehumanising or devaluing one side then thats your own choice.
All my posts here have alhamdulillh been consistent.
Ya ALLAH Madad.
Haq Chaar Yaar
Nah med's got a point - it's absurd and hypocritical for americans to list off all their dead and pretend our hands aren't bloody too.
At least our dead have names - I don't know the name of one single child that was killed to my cheering when I thought we were killing Zawahiri a couple days ago.
Like I said before Zawahiri isn't worth this.
That said - I was talkin exclusively to Ziggy. Whereas I at least admit what we do and condemn it with moderate hypocrisy - Ziggy is glorifying that civilian beheading animal - and as yall know im a hot head I don't mind shoving his face in what his heros been up to. Aasiyah knows that and that's what shes talkin abuot
yall are on different wavelengths
So lets not have any arguments stemming from comments I made directly toward Ziggy.
I dont want anybody confusin med for ziggy - he didn't know some of the stuff zig was sayin and he apologised for having defended him and he joined in the chorus askin for him to apologize to lilsis.
mashaALLAH, as usual a voice of reason bruv.
may ALLAH ennoble your heart with imaan. ameen [size=7]hehehe[/size]
If some people want to box me into one category cos that makes it easy for them then Im all for whatever makes othres lives easier.
Even if it is deliberately ignoring a number of my posts which have been saying the same tihng over and over.
Some people just like to be biased, good for them, we cant all be unbiased.
Ya ALLAH Madad.
Haq Chaar Yaar
Med you are wrong.
You always will be.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
abt what?
Ya ALLAH Madad.
Haq Chaar Yaar
exactly - Med i thought u were making an unfair comment considering u were addressing Dave - we all know him, he's an old member, and we KNOW that he doesnt weigh muslim deaths any less than those of non-musims.
if it was a random new member u wer making the comment to, i wouldnt have questioned it.
but uv clarified that i guess so fair enuf, i'll let it drop.
sorry if u feel i insulted u.
wassalaam.
[size=9]I NEVER WORE IT BECAUSE OF THE TALIBAN, MOTHER. I LIKE THE [b]MODESTY[/b] AND [b]PROTECTION[/b] IT AFFORDS ME FROM THE EYES OF MEN.[/size] [url=http://www.adherents.com/lit/comics/Dust.html]Dust, X-Men[/url]
Im used to it.
Daves comment was to Zarqa, I took it to be for every1 and so responded.
I know that mashaALLAH Dave is a good geeza, dont wanna say too much, next man might get a big head!
Ya ALLAH Madad.
Haq Chaar Yaar
eeeeverything!
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
[size=18][b]OR . . .[/b][/size]
Im right abt everything.
only time will tell.
tick tock tick tock
Ya ALLAH Madad.
Haq Chaar Yaar
oh puhleez dont play that 'victimised' stunt with me or i may b forced to retract my statement... :roll:
now uv misunderstood [i]my[/i] post - who Dave addressed in his post was irrelevant, the point i was making is that because it was Dave who made the 'list', ur reply wasnt applicable because we KNOW that he doesnt deny the death of Muslims...
[size=9]I NEVER WORE IT BECAUSE OF THE TALIBAN, MOTHER. I LIKE THE [b]MODESTY[/b] AND [b]PROTECTION[/b] IT AFFORDS ME FROM THE EYES OF MEN.[/size] [url=http://www.adherents.com/lit/comics/Dust.html]Dust, X-Men[/url]
IT'S A BOMB!!!!
DUUUUUUUUCK!!!
lol @ dave.
Aasiyah do what you like. I am not bothered either way. and i mean that in a nice way.
Ya ALLAH Madad.
Haq Chaar Yaar
Anybody else want to take a stab at answering this one it's been on my mind for a while?
as far as I know I have not lost anyone.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
I am changing the above.
Near the village in kashmir where we have alot of relatives there was a terrorist bombing a few years ago. Some people died. I cannot remember if any relatives died though... (it has been pointed out that I am cold hearted...)
(and this links in with the Kashmir topic... the bomber was caught trying to get across the border...)
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
Sorry for you Admin.
Was he a Pakistani or an Indian bomber?
No need to be sorry. I am pretty sure that people died though... but cannot really recall...
I am not 100% sure... but from the way it was described, he infiltrated pakistani held kashmir for his mission... was slightly injured... and when he tried to return to indian held kashmir some people became suspicious...
So he was probably of Indian origin.
That is the ONLY time I think such an event has occurred near this area. Terrorism was virtually unheard of there.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
Wow... that's messed up.
I've heard the Indians complain before about terrorism being used against them in Kashmir. - Two way street apparently.
This must have been a while ago judging by how hazy you seem to be on the details... were you pretty young?
It was between 2 and 7 years ago.
Its just something I totally forgot about til now.
I cannot remember much at all about it though...
(its only recently my memmory ash turned into a sieve... I have forgotten alot of spelling aswell.... and now I cannot remember names at all... but I remember alot of things from when I was younger...)
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
It's weird the stuff you remember and the stuff you don't with tragedies like that... I just recently called my friend (haven't talked to him in a while) to tell him i'm getting married and I wanted him to be one of my men of honor - I left basically the longest voicemail you've ever seen.
And when I hung up I realized he was in fact dead - killed in Iraq, and I had been to his funeral talked to his family and very much knew he was dead.
I can remember what I ate for breakfast when I got the call but I couldn't remember he was actually dead when I made my call recently.
painful.
was that a personal mobile... or was it the family phone? that could be very painful...
For me its just recently that I have almost lost the ability to remember.
as a kid I used to pretend my memory was not as good as it was.
As study I used to quickly scan over pages just looking at them, but not really reading anything... (this was pointed out to me. I did not realise at first! and I am a slow reader. so slow I can read english the same speed upside down as the right way up! (helps alot on a train when you forget the paper! I do not have photographic memory even though I would love to have it. At the same time I wanna forget some things which I do not seem to have the ability to forget...)
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
His cell... his parents still pay his Car insurance (I think)
They are having a hard time of it... his sister is really in trouble, I worry about her a lot, she's a really sweet girl but she's getting in with a bad crowd.
But yea... when I realized what happened it hit hard. I've been a little weird lately.
Hey maybe you shuold get that checked... lol sounds like the early stages of dementia or something
The other symptoms being for the last couple of years I am almost always mentally tired. I can sleep without waking for 18-20 hours straight if not woken by alarm or someone else...
and for the last few years I have not had the will to do anything at all...
Could be serious... but I doubt it.
The worst thing is I ran into this guy I worked with for 6 months. he now works where I work. I have not told him, but I have no recollection of him whatsoever. But then again, even in my younger days I was not good at remembering people or faces...
[EDIT]
I have diagnosed the disease. It is very dangerous. It is chronic laziness.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
ahh I've got that too!
Just ask my still unwritten senior paper!
It must be contagious.
More virulent than bird flu. It can even contaminate across cyberspace!
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
lol I also notice it comes with age and responsibility. The greater the responsibility - the more obvious the symptoms
Do you think they will give us a nobel prize for this discovery?
you write the letter to inform the judges about it.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
Maybe later
Soldiers die. Thats life.
Ya ALLAH Madad.
Haq Chaar Yaar
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