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What made it worse was that I cried a little once I got home at the end of Con-Air :oops: CON-AIR!!!

i was SOO angry at myself! I couldn't cry at the holiest place in the World, but I could cry because a fictional character was reunited with his family. Astaghfirullah

Ya'qub I couldn't cry at the holiest place in the World, but I could cry because a fictional character was reunited with his family.

SubhanAllah!

😃

Its really sad that you couldn't cry in The Haram, but its really beautiful that you could cry for human dignity, even it was a story. I won't go all perenial but the idea that something beautiful in the human condition moved your heart to tears means there's softness in your heart.

Practise crying, maybe next time you'll cool the people of The Hajj with your tears!

Ya'qubin makkah, after tahajjud, Imam Sudais would lead a long dua that was very emotive and practically EVERYONE around me was sobbing a LOT. these were the same macho men who, only a few moments before had been pushing and barging their way through crowds in an aggresive manner. the Imam himself was crying too, especially on the odd-numbered nights. But i couldn't feel anything. it felt like i was the only dry-eyed person out of the 3 million of us in and around the mosque. it may had been a language thing, but then again there were many people there who couldn't understand much arabic, including my friends, who all 'fealt' the need to cry.

i was left standing, saying 'Ameen' for supplications which I had no knowledge of. I felt absolutely no connectionion with Allah (swt) throughout every dua, no matter how hard I tried.

it was quite a lonely and alienating feeling (but even being lonely didn't make me cry either!!)

My harsh dad sobbed a lot when he first saw the Kabah (and this was his 5/6 visit) wheras I was so hot, jetlagged and ill that I just wanted the Umrah to end ASAP so that we could get back to the hotel. Astagfirullah. :?

However, afterwards...when I became overwhelmed by the magnificance of Kabah and/or when my personal duas became intense or when I felt insignificant and unworthy in the Court of Allah - I became very emotional.

IMO tears have a lot to do with ones personal character. I'm very sensitive with an incredibly soft hard. So its easy for me to cry often. Yet, IMO my mum is one of the most pious people I know - yet I dont think I've ever seen her cry - for any reason.

I watched a programme about honour killing last night – it was a disturbing programme.

Although, one part made me laugh out loud. A policewoman was making fun of an alibi that a mother had given her – the mum had told her that her sons (who were involved in the crime) were sleeping with her the whole time.

The policewoman said “What 17year boys still sleep with their mum – does she really expect us to believe that”

Unsurprisingly, the mum who was covering up for her sons didn’t see what was wrong with her explanation.

I also, just read a supposed “unacceptable” issue in the papers, where research has revealed that parents are still financially helping out their children – even when they’re into their 40’s and 50’s.

Its always interesting how some things that totally unacceptable in some cultures, whilst totally normal behaviour in another.

Salam

Honour Killing.

Which bit are you disturbed about?

Omrow

The fact that people genuinly believe that their is 'honour' in brutally killing a member of their own family just because they have fallen into temptation.

The fact that such people are bigged up in their communities.

The fact that this issue is brushed under the carpet as a non issue.

Salam

MuslimSister
The fact that people genuinly believe that their is 'honour' in brutally killing a member of their own family just because they have fallen into temptation.

The fact that such people are bigged up in their communities.

The fact that this issue is brushed under the carpet as a non issue.

Let me get this right.

You are disturbed by "beliefs" of an individual and also by the "beliefs" of a whole community?

By the way, your last statement contradicts the first two.

If the person is comitting a crime and community is with hi, then it cant be a non-issue which is "brushed under the carpet".

As you clearly point out, the entire community know about it and glorifies it.

Omrow

Salam

When is Eid-ul-Adah?

An exactish date or a rough estimate, anyone know?

Ta

20 dec.

6 days before boxong day

Just think how many people you know have been to Pilgramage to Mecca!!

Malaysia to produce first 'halal' meningitis vaccine

AFP - Oct 18, 2007

Malaysia said Thursday it plans to develop a "halal" meningitis vaccine jointly with Cuba within the next two years.
The 3.6 million ringgit (one million dollar) vaccine is aimed at the thousands of Muslims who are infected with the disease during the annual Haj pilgrimage to Mecca, state news agency Bernama reported.
At present, most meningitis vaccines are produced from pig products, which are considered haram, or forbidden, by Muslims, it said.
Bernama said the halal vaccine is a joint project between Universiti Sains Malaysia (USM) and the Finlay Institute in Cuba.
Higher Education Minister Datuk Mustapa Mohamed said Malaysia would provide 2.0 million ringgit for the project while Cuba would fund the remaining 1.6 million.
"This is a success for USM and the country's pride to see Malaysia realising its plan to produce the vaccine," he told Bernama.
Mustapa said 12 USM specialists and 30 Cuban experts would develop the vaccine from halal extracts of animals slaughtered according to Islamic tenets.
Malaysia is trying to position itself as a global hub for the halal industry, which it estimates is worth 580 billion dollars annually.
Under the concept of halal -- meaning "permissible" in Arabic -- pork and its by-products, alcohol and animals not slaughtered according to Koranic procedures are all forbidden.

OmrowJust think how many people you know have been to Pilgramage to Mecca!!

Malaysia to produce first 'halal' meningitis vaccine

AFP - Oct 18, 2007

Malaysia said Thursday it plans to develop a "halal" meningitis vaccine jointly with Cuba within the next two years.
The 3.6 million ringgit (one million dollar) vaccine is aimed at the thousands of Muslims who are infected with the disease during the annual Haj pilgrimage to Mecca, state news agency Bernama reported.
At present, most meningitis vaccines are produced from pig products, which are considered haram, or forbidden, by Muslims, it said.
Bernama said the halal vaccine is a joint project between Universiti Sains Malaysia (USM) and the Finlay Institute in Cuba.
Higher Education Minister Datuk Mustapa Mohamed said Malaysia would provide 2.0 million ringgit for the project while Cuba would fund the remaining 1.6 million.
"This is a success for USM and the country's pride to see Malaysia realising its plan to produce the vaccine," he told Bernama.
Mustapa said 12 USM specialists and 30 Cuban experts would develop the vaccine from halal extracts of animals slaughtered according to Islamic tenets.
Malaysia is trying to position itself as a global hub for the halal industry, which it estimates is worth 580 billion dollars annually.
Under the concept of halal -- meaning "permissible" in Arabic -- pork and its by-products, alcohol and animals not slaughtered according to Koranic procedures are all forbidden.

thanks for that omrow, do you have a link to the story?

I LIKE MONKEYS

I like monkeys.

The pet store was selling them for five cents a piece. I thought that
odd since they were normally a couple thousand each. I decided not to
look a gift horse in the mouth. I bought 200. I like monkeys.

I took my 200 monkeys home. I have a big car. I let one drive. His
name was Sigmund. He was retarded. In fact, none of them were really
bright. They kept punching themselves in their genitals. I laughed.
Then they punched my genitals. I stopped laughing.

I herded them into my room. They didn't adapt very well to their new
environment. They would screech, hurl themselves off of the couch at
high speeds and slam into the wall. Although humorous at first, the
spectacle lost its novelty halfway into its third hour.

Two hours later I found out why all the monkeys were so inexpensive:
they all died. No apparent reason. They all just sorta' dropped dead.
Kinda' like when you buy a goldfish and it dies five hours later. Damn
cheap monkeys.

I didn't know what to do. There were 200 dead monkeys lying all over my
room, on the bed, in the dresser, hanging from my bookcase. It looked
like I had 200 throw rugs.

I tried to flush one down the toilet. It didn't work. It got stuck.
Then I had one dead, wet monkey and 199 dead, dry monkeys.

I tried pretending that they were just stuffed animals. That worked for
a while, that is until they began to decompose. It started to smell real
bad.

I had to pee but there was a dead monkey in the toilet and I didn't want
to call the plumber. I was embarrassed.

I tried to slow down the decomposition by freezing them. Unfortunately
there was only enough room for two monkeys at a time so I had to change
them every 30 seconds. I also had to eat all the food in the freezer so
it didn't all go bad.

I tried burning them. Little did I know my bed was flammable. I had to
extinguish the fire.

Then I had one dead, wet monkey in my toilet, two dead, frozen monkeys in
my freezer, and 197 dead, charred monkeys in a pile on my bed. The odor
wasn't improving.

I became agitated at my inability to dispose of my monkeys and to use the
bathroom. I severely beat one of my monkeys. I felt better.

I tried throwing them way but the garbage man said that the city wasn't
allowed to dispose of charred primates. I told him that I had a wet
one. He couldn't take that one either. I didn't bother asking about the
frozen ones.

I finally arrived at a solution. I gave them out as Christmas gifts. My
friends didn't know quite what to say. They pretended that they like
them but I could tell they were lying. Ingrates. So I punched them in
the genitals.

I like monkeys

^ :? :?:

admin, can we have the same smilies as ummah forum?

what smileys do they have?

have a look.

^well :?:

I am not all here yet.

u never are.

I expected more comments on the "I Like Monkeys" piece... apparently no one wrote it.

what do u mean no one wrote it? :?

Use the force. (Google it.)

Everyone knows when/where they read it first, but no one knows who wrote it. people have mentioned who they *think* wrote it, but the authr has turned out to be another person in the link saying they read it somewhere else and copied/forwarded it.

wow

:roll:

back to the smiles, when we getting them? i'm gona keep on bugging u till we have a set of smiles admin!

the clocks have gone an hour back.

Aren't they ugly?

(post a link of the images, as I had a quick look at a few posts and only found one or two...)

any are better than the ones we've got!

can't we have a cross between the 7cgen ones and ummah ones? or is that not possible?

http://www.ummah.com/forum/showthread.php?t=136700

http://www.ummah.com/forum/showthread.php?t=136700&page=3 - towards the bottom.

I hate the moving ones... the other ones are not too spectacular.

I do like the ones that will come with the next version of phpbb though...

admin, sign into ur 7cgen account and click show all emotions and decide from the two.

YouI do like the ones that will come with the next version of phpbb though...

and when will that be?