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Salaam

When I was in Year 7 I really looked up to the girls in the years above… Befriending people in the year above boosted the popularity of the younger lot…obviously befriending the older lot was easier if you had an older sibling.

In my town there are many older guys who get the younger lot to do their dirty work…they use the younger lot to sell their weed, jack cars or make them do manual labour ….the younger kids buzz of the fact that someone “older and more popular” is paying them attention and sometimes they get a tenner out of doing work for them…

My brother is banned from hanging round with guys who are older than him.

For the past four years I’ve led two study circles a week and have taught in an Islamic Summer School almost every year….I have a small group of 12/13 year olds who attend almost all that I’m involved in….only the other day I realised that these girls do pretty much anything I tell them to do…

I remember when I was 12/13….I didn’t listen to my parents, I ignored my siblings…but the opinion of my mates meant everything to me, esp if they were older then me.

Kids aged 12-15 are incredibly influential…Sheikh Abdul Qadr Jillani (ra) said that at this age kids are like sponges, easily influenced and remember for life what they are exposed to…

I think that those of us who take Islam seriously should all take a young person under their wing…

What do you guys think?

Wasalaam

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#61

Medarris Sat, 12 Aug 2006 - 23:30

(*_Shazan

Med Mianstick to topic folks :evil:

(and since when is shazan a paki-hater? Im a paki - he doesnt hate me ( i think 😛 )) why is is being allowed that shazan is maligned like this?

Goes back to 1971 debate I first had.

Our littlesister is the starter of conflict but she doesn’t finish them. Silly jezebel

I remember the topic well bruv - but I didnt get paki-hater from that topic 😃 .

And lol - you're a funny brother. 8)

#62

Dave Sat, 12 Aug 2006 - 23:31

Angel

Odysseus
Med Mianstick to topic folks :evil:

(and since when is shazan a paki-hater? Im a paki - he doesnt hate me ( i think 😛 )) why is is being allowed that shazan is maligned like this?

Long story we don't have the time for. Shaz doesn't hate pakis...

as much as me :twisted:

lol seriously though let's not toss around insults and dig up ancient history

Yeah it's very tough, remeber that time when i had to prove you were a snob, boy i passed with fly colours, i am the best 😛

BACK TO TOPIC - Adopting kids....

Noooooo you didn't. I CLEARLY remember at least 2 votes that said I'm not a snob! One was Yuit (sorta) and the other was a random farmer from east sheffield named Timbo!

YOU have to apologize to me and hayder and you have to apologize as a fairy princess.

Or something like that

let's not get caught up in details

#63

Dave Sat, 12 Aug 2006 - 23:32

(*_Shazan

Odysseus
Med Mianstick to topic folks :evil:

(and since when is shazan a paki-hater? Im a paki - he doesnt hate me ( i think 😛 )) why is is being allowed that shazan is maligned like this?

lol seriously though let's not toss around insults and dig up ancient history

Remind her that naseeha should be given in private :roll:

Okay shaz you're goign to have to help me out here with the arabic...

#65

Anonymous (not verified) Sat, 12 Aug 2006 - 23:35

Odysseus

Okay shaz you're goign to have to help me out here with the arabic...

Means friendly advice.

#67

Angel Sat, 12 Aug 2006 - 23:41

Odysseus

Noooooo you didn't. I CLEARLY remember at least 2 votes that said I'm not a snob! One was Yuit (sorta) and the other was a random farmer from east sheffield named Timbo!

YOU have to apologize to me and hayder and you have to apologize as a fairy princess.

Or something like that

let's not get caught up in details

lol yeah timbo being you (u didnt think i'd suss you out?) and yuit counted as half. So no apology.

#68

Dave Sat, 12 Aug 2006 - 23:45

Angel

Odysseus

Noooooo you didn't. I CLEARLY remember at least 2 votes that said I'm not a snob! One was Yuit (sorta) and the other was a random farmer from east sheffield named Timbo!

YOU have to apologize to me and hayder and you have to apologize as a fairy princess.

Or something like that

let's not get caught up in details

lol yeah timbo being you (u didnt think i'd suss you out?) and yuit counted as half. So no apology.

You can't prove that

#69

Angel Sat, 12 Aug 2006 - 23:48

oh that's what YOU think ( i have my sources 😛 )

I didn't expect that from you i really didn't 🙁

#70

Dave Sat, 12 Aug 2006 - 23:50

Angeloh that's what YOU think ( i have my sources 😛 )

I didn't expect that from you i really didn't :(

Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure you do,

I won somewhat fair and almost square... so there!

How's THAT for poetry?

#71

Anonymous (not verified) Sat, 12 Aug 2006 - 23:54

Odysseus

You can't prove that

I can 😂 ,

#72

Angel Sat, 12 Aug 2006 - 23:55

Odysseus

Angeloh that's what YOU think ( i have my sources 😛 )

I didn't expect that from you i really didn't :(

Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure you do,

I won somewhat fair and almost square... so there!

How's THAT for poetry?

You call that poetry how lame, lame and lame!

CHEATER :evil:

#73

Dave Sat, 12 Aug 2006 - 23:59

(*_Shazan

Odysseus

You can't prove that

I can 😂 ,

:shock:

shhhhhh

#74

Anonymous (not verified) Sun, 13 Aug 2006 - 00:03

Odysseus

(*_Shazan
Odysseus

You can't prove that

I can 😂 ,

:shock:

shhhhhh

If you admit it then I wont disclose the evidence but you have over played this joke for a long time now and it's time let go.

#75

(*_Kamilah* Sun, 13 Aug 2006 - 00:23

I agree with physically chastising a child when he/she misbehaves - for example when i was studying in my jamea there were girls in my class who were old enough to understand right from wrong..(they were around 11-14 in age) but yet they were so childish and naughty...they ruined the whole learning experience for the rest of us (who were paying £££'s to study) that were there...the teachers were unable to control them because chastisement is not allowed, the girls knew that and took more advantage...everyday they messed about...disturbing people from their study..now if a had it my way i would have throttled each and every one of them...one days throttling would have sorted them out for good!

MuslimSisLilSis:

I have read a number of your posts and you are a very bitter young girl.
your comments are rude and offensive and intolerable...sister you are still young and to have such malice in the heart, to go to the extent of even threatening to involve the authorities in the affairs of a madrassah merely to cause problems for Med is indeed very sad and I am quite shocked that you would behave so despicably as to cause trouble for a religious institute merely out of some personally vendetta against med.

Dont you fear ALLAH in causing problems for places where the Quran and Ahadeeth are taught day and night? you seem to make little contribution in regards to topics but rather are continually carrying out a personal vendetta against med when he doesnt say anything on the most part directed at you. disagreeing with his points is fine but you dont disagree with his points with rational arguement but resort to snidy comments and cheap shots at some past demeanours.

You should be aware that it is a sign of the hypocrite is that they cause difficulty and trouble to institutes supporting ALLAH's religion - I dont knw whether you are just acting out of feminine irrationality or if you seriously have a disease that compels you to debase med regardless of the consequences for deeni work.

#76

You Sun, 13 Aug 2006 - 00:26

Experience tells me hitting kids does not work.

The kids lose the fear. They are twice as bad.

#77

Anonymous (not verified) Sun, 13 Aug 2006 - 00:34

Eloquent said Kamilah , welcome back sister.

Admin- I agree, the Quran should be taught with love However, the teachers cant allow the selected rascals to disrupt other people learning- if we allow this to happen then the Masjid leaning environment would become like inner-city school’s

#78

You Sun, 13 Aug 2006 - 00:38

In my opinion the masjid learning environment at the moment is attrocious.

Good p0laces are few and far in between.

#79

Anonymous (not verified) Sun, 13 Aug 2006 - 00:46

AdminIn my opinion the masjid learning environment at the moment is attrocious.

Good p0laces are few and far in between.

Well.....

There more British speaking imams and mullahs compare to 60 years ago, slowly adopting to teach British born Muslims .

#81

Angel Sun, 13 Aug 2006 - 00:55

I don't agree with beatin children, I dont see any child that is somehow miraculously changed by it. If there are children who misbehave they should be punished via other means not by physical abuse.

#82

Noor Sun, 13 Aug 2006 - 00:56

AngelI don't agree with beatin children, I dont see any child that is somehow miraculously changed by it. If there are children who misbehave they should be punished via other means not by physical abuse.

Well i think it depends on what type of beating you give the child, a lil slap wont do any harm!

#83

Anonymous (not verified) Sun, 13 Aug 2006 - 00:59

Angel; Beating, I wont ask you to define beating and know one is suggesting you beat a child.

And what other means are available

#84

Angel Sun, 13 Aug 2006 - 01:03

(*_ShazanAngel; Beating, I wont ask you to define beating and know one is suggesting you beat a child.

And what other means are available

Thing is some ppl can't differentiate between a light slap and get carried away hence it shouldnt be allowed fullstop.

Other means - Keepin them back/giving them extra homework/getin them to help out etc

#85

Noor Sun, 13 Aug 2006 - 01:05

When i used to go to mosque and whenever some1 was naughty the teacher would make us either sit next to her or make us stand up and hold our tongues...

and then if we were even naughty, big full on hard core slaps on both cheeeks, and boy did they kill!

and if that didnt work, thats when the stick came out....

#86

MuslimBro Sun, 13 Aug 2006 - 01:10

Noor, you're lucky......

the stick came out first for us boys, the girls always had a second chance.

#87

Noor Sun, 13 Aug 2006 - 01:11

Muslim BroNoor, you're lucky......

the stick came out first for us boys, the girls always had a second chance.

Ouch!

#88

Angel Sun, 13 Aug 2006 - 01:12

Is it just me that never got beaten up in my local mosque :?

#89

You Sun, 13 Aug 2006 - 01:13

I ahve suggested in the past that teachers should undertake teacher training courses.

I am of the firm belief that a child is always interested. If a child does not pay attention its because the teacher is boring him/her. There are other ways to make sure kids behave.

You can use rewards. It works brilliantly. And you can be as cruel as you like.

As an example, I once got into taking care of some kids in our house. They were running rampant at one point. I managed to control the situation using various means (cannot remember to be honest - it was a long long time ago), but one kid was still undermining me. So I went to shop, got them all sweets and the like. All except the one not listening. Before dishing them out I made them understand who was getting them and why. And also made it clear they could not be shared with those beiong deprived, or I will take them away.

It was cruel, but that is what I call not violent chastisement. It may have left emotional scars, but hey what do I care?

(oh me taking care of anyone is a joke in itself. I have at times got looks from 7 years olds thinking they are more mature than me! I rarely have to such things.)

The moral of the story is that there are always non-violent means a good teacher can use. A bad teacher will just need an excuse.

#90

MuslimBro Sun, 13 Aug 2006 - 01:16

Well I deserved it for being naughty....but it's my friends who got most of the beating as I used to act innocent when the imam was looking.

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