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Umar —

I guess most of us have heard of the go ahead of gay marriages and the rights of gay partners mirroring the rights of hetrosexual couples.

Any every major religion this is forbidden and in Islam this is one of the greatest sins (after killing) someone can commit. So what are the muslims doing, shouldn't the faiths get together and rally, fight against this un-natural process, which goes against all rules of life? Won't people learn from history and the holy scriptures regarding the Prophet Lot's people and what happened to them, and the poeple of pompei?

If we just sit around won't we be part of the wrath of allah(swt) for not doing anything? what should the muslims/Christians/Jews do?

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#92

You Sat, 24 Dec 2005 - 23:58

looks like Omrow is crushed!

(and I have no idea either way...)

What I do not understand is those who 'come out of the closet' years after straight marriage...

#94

equanimity Sun, 25 Dec 2005 - 02:26

I heard

Lennox Lewis is gay shock

Have you noticed there are too much gays on tv these days what going on these batty men are putting me off tv.

is it true there are gay priests in america, thats incredibly stupid every religion in the world tells us gays go to hell. Maybe the priests should read the bible again god created adam and eve not adam and steve

#95

latifah Sun, 25 Dec 2005 - 13:35

RAF786I heard

Lennox Lewis is gay :shock:

Have you noticed there are too much gays on tv these days what going on these batty men are putting me off tv.

is it true there are gay priests in america, thats incredibly stupid every religion in the world tells us gays go to hell. Maybe the priests should read the bible again god created adam and eve not adam and steve

Lennox Lewis can't be gay!

There are gay priests in America, so I've heard, which is bizarre. One guy actually lives with his "boyfriend" and still preachs The Bible to the faithful with no shame.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/4374249.stm

Not the Catholics though, they forbid this practice altogether.

#96

muslim_kuri Mon, 26 Dec 2005 - 17:18

latifah

There are gay priests in America, so I've heard, which is bizarre. One guy actually lives with his "boyfriend" and still preachs The Bible to the faithful with no shame.

tut tut whats the world comin ta :shock: :!:

another sign of judgement day

#97

Seraphim Mon, 26 Dec 2005 - 21:33

muslim_kuri

latifah

There are gay priests in America, so I've heard, which is bizarre. One guy actually lives with his "boyfriend" and still preachs The Bible to the faithful with no shame.

tut tut whats the world comin ta :shock: :!:

another sign of judgement day

and so it begins...

#98

Omrow Mon, 26 Dec 2005 - 22:28

Salam

In Europe and America, the sodomites were once banned.

Only 30 years ago society criminalised homosexuals.

Now, the morals have been relaxed.

This trend of moral decline will surely continues; and soon we will
end up with legalisation of beastiality, in which people sleep with animals.

Like today's homos who try to argue their case, some people
in the future may similarly argue that it is their right to love a duck.

Omrow

#99

muslim_kuri Mon, 26 Dec 2005 - 23:37

OmrowLike today's homos who try to argue their case, some people
in the future may similarly argue that it is their right to love a duck.

and they call themselves 'civilised'

#102

*DUST* Tue, 27 Dec 2005 - 00:44

May Allah cure homos of their mental illness and bring them onto the siraat al-mustaqeem.

#103

muslim_kuri Tue, 27 Dec 2005 - 00:45

AasiyahMay Allah cure homos of their mental illness and bring them onto the siraat al-mustaqeem.

AMEEN - rather than wishing curse upon them

#104

Omrow Tue, 27 Dec 2005 - 00:48

Salam

Yes. Cure is better than curse.

Women always seems to make better doctors.

Don't know why.

Maybe its their hands. They seems to cure easily.

Omrow

#105

muslim_kuri Tue, 27 Dec 2005 - 00:52

Omrow
Women always seems to make better doctors.

Don't know why.

Maybe its their hands.

or brains 😂

#106

star Tue, 27 Dec 2005 - 00:52

muslim_kuri

AasiyahMay Allah cure homos of their mental illness and bring them onto the siraat al-mustaqeem.

AMEEN - rather than wishing curse upon them

our beloved prophet mohammed s.a.w, used to pray allah curse the sodomists and used to repeat himself 3 times

theres hadiths on this matter.

#107

Medarris Tue, 27 Dec 2005 - 00:54

very gud point.

Also we were told in hadeeth to send curse on those who abuse the Sahabah.

You filthy dogs of hellfire know who u r. Enjoy the curse of ALLAH the Angels and ALL Mankind.

Anyone got a problem with the above statement? Take it up with the Holy Hadeeth.

#112

Omrow Tue, 27 Dec 2005 - 00:56

Salam

Why on earth would the Prophet repeat himself three times ?

His disciples were not deaf you know !!

Omrow

#113

You Tue, 27 Dec 2005 - 01:01

It could be used for emphasis...

(and naj... you know the score. you will always be asked for a refference...)

#114

You Tue, 27 Dec 2005 - 01:02

Medvery gud point.

Also we were told in hadeeth to send curse on those who abuse the Sahabah.

You filthy dogs of hellfire know who u r. Enjoy the curse of ALLAH the Angels and ALL Mankind.

Anyone got a problem with the above statement? Take it up with the Holy Hadeeth.

again reference please.

(not that I doubt you, but as a matter of policy...)

#115

Medarris Tue, 27 Dec 2005 - 01:13

"A group will emerge soon who will abuse my Sahabah and endeavor to find faults in them. As such you should not keep their company, nor dine with them nor have marriage relationships with them from either side. You should not greet them either. The curse of Allah be upon them". [Ghuniyat-ut-Tualibeen, Chapter Ummahat-ul-Momineen (Azmat-e-Sahabah), Page#164]

I do not have the relevant books to hand, so this is my best reference for time being.

#116

*DUST* Tue, 27 Dec 2005 - 01:23

Med

"A group will emerge soon who will abuse my Sahabah and endeavor to find faults in them. As such you should not keep their company, nor dine with them nor have marriage relationships with them from either side. You should not greet them either. The curse of Allah be upon them". [Ghuniyat-ut-Tualibeen, Chapter Ummahat-ul-Momineen (Azmat-e-Sahabah), Page#164]

I do not have the relevant books to hand, so this is my best reference for time being.

what is the 'Ghuniyat-ut-Tualibeen'? its not a book of Ahadith as far as i know?

i tried to find a more direct reference on the net but everywhere people have referenced it as from this book - Ghuniyat-ut-Taulibeen.

#117

yuit Tue, 27 Dec 2005 - 09:38

This is a complicated subject IMO, i would hate too see islam go down the line that chrisitianity have, where quite a few Gays have look for religion for some type of endorsement.

But at the same time condenming and treating them in a certain way, isn't really going to help their understanding of islam. It a tough one personally, but casting them too hell while they still alive and have the chance to repent is wrong IMO.

p.s Lennox Lewis ain't gay he married with a kid, it was just a stupid rumour because he didn't act like a sex craved boxer like the rest of the heavyweights.

#118

Medarris Tue, 27 Dec 2005 - 14:12

Aasiyah

Med
"A group will emerge soon who will abuse my Sahabah and endeavor to find faults in them. As such you should not keep their company, nor dine with them nor have marriage relationships with them from either side. You should not greet them either. The curse of Allah be upon them". [Ghuniyat-ut-Tualibeen, Chapter Ummahat-ul-Momineen (Azmat-e-Sahabah), Page#164]

I do not have the relevant books to hand, so this is my best reference for time being.

what is the 'Ghuniyat-ut-Tualibeen'? its not a book of Ahadith as far as i know?

i tried to find a more direct reference on the net but everywhere people have referenced it as from this book - Ghuniyat-ut-Taulibeen.

You will it very difficult to find literature exposing the fallacy of the shias on the internet and also very few english books are available in this.

It is not necessary that ahadeeth which are not found in the major books are necessarily not true. It will be a while for me to find the relevant references, this is not made easy by the fact that quite a few of the ahadeeth were narrated to us by visiting ulama and my memory is not good to have remembered the narration fully.

I seek ALLAH's forgiveness.

But one point, if the lady wishes to make friends with shia and call them your brothers/sisters in faith then you are most welcome. I only pass on the message to the best of my ability.

#119

star Tue, 27 Dec 2005 - 14:24

Aasiyah

najtheres hadiths on this matter.

please provide the references.

Hadhrat Ibn Abbas (may Allah be pleased with him ) relates that the Prophet of God (peace and blessings of Allah upon him) observed :" May god curse him who removes signposts from the ground; may god curse him who misguides a blind man; gods curse be on him who rebukes his parents; gods curses be on him who attaches himself to someone else as a client leaving aside his owner and master.Gods curses be on him who commits sodomy.The prophet repeated this last sentence thrice." (baihaqi)

thats one hadith...

#120

Beast Tue, 27 Dec 2005 - 14:47

Med
You will it very difficult to find literature exposing the fallacy of the shias on the internet and also very few english books are available in this.

It is not necessary that ahadeeth which are not found in the major books are necessarily not true. It will be a while for me to find the relevant references, this is not made easy by the fact that quite a few of the ahadeeth were narrated to us by visiting ulama and my memory is not good to have remembered the narration fully.

I seek ALLAH's forgiveness.

But one point, if the lady wishes to make friends with shia and call them your brothers/sisters in faith then you are most welcome. I only pass on the message to the best of my ability.

I know that there is a tendency to go off-topic, but how did this thread turn into something about Shias?

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