I think it is uncalled for to call MuhammadAliNasir caveman and neanderthal. That is derogatory terminology and seeing as he hasnt insulted any1 personally i think it is underhand to attribute such names to him. Respond to his posts with your own logic and own objections, but calling him such names in my view is not right.

sorry but the way he posts is irritating...shouting and repating himself with absurd comments

and then he says we should be shameful for not knowing our deen? oh and hes a pious man lol

sorry man....the guy's way of posting is jus too funny

even tho you have slightly Medieval views, at least you say it and back it up....not SHOUT and REPEAT SHOUT and REPEAT SHOUT CONSULT AN ALIM

its as tho if were all diseased :?

Kuri/19 i have the opposite problem to you any mention of the Prophet)pbuh) and related subjects i cant stop proper sobbing crying and everyone looks at me i feel stupid and have to leave the room.

i want to be somewhere between you and me so i can at least control myself.

i do not think i love my deen any more then the ladies who do not cry they just have a different way of expressing themselves

if you are even thinking this way then how can you say you are hard hearted. those who show emotion do not necessarily feel any more then those who do not show their emotion

some people when their heart is breaking they cry others do not but their heart is still breaking and they do feel it

well I think we should all be shameful because we dont know our deen.

"Medievalist" wrote:

I think it is uncalled for to call MuhammadAliNasir caveman and neanderthal. That is derogatory terminology and seeing as he hasnt insulted any1 personally i think it is underhand to attribute such names to him. Respond to his posts with your own logic and own objections, but calling him such names in my view is not right.

the boy wanted to beat me up-just cos I never agreed with his caveman views

i have no respect for men who even TALK about raising their hands to a woman

such men are scums

so i think I'm entitled to call him every name under the sun

"kuri/19" wrote:

"MuslimSisLilSis" wrote:

hard hearted people with stone hearts-would never understand the importance of this topic

i feel im hard hearted yea but posting this topic was coz i considered it important....i thought i was the only one with a heard heart....

are u meaning something else?

i wasnt chatting about u

dont get paraniod

u started this thread-so of course you think that having a soft heart is important

Salaam

“No-one is furthest away from Allah (swt) than the hard-hearted” (Tirmidhi).

Islam is the religion of peace and mercy. The Dhikr of Allah (swt) softens ones heart.

If ones character does not improve as he/she delves deeper into Islam…and if one becomes hard hearted. They should seriously wonder whether or not they’re on the right track.

Wasalaam

Islam does make some people very hard/harsh

i want nothing to do with this certain type of Islam that makes people heartless :evil:

I laugh too much aswell when Im with my family, but not in public.

MashaALLAH Bahishti Zewar is an excellent book, someone said to me that if you learn Bahishti Zewar off by heart then you will know as much fiqh as an average alim. MashaALLAH Hazrat Thanwi was a great man.

Salam

"Med" wrote:

well I think we should all be shameful because we dont know our deen.

I dont know about all. Some people on Revival Forum are very knowledgeable

But you are right, certainly some of "us" - such as your stupid self - should bury their heads in the sand.

Omrow

LOL

good one Omro

btw its true that laughing too much hardens the heart

"naj" wrote:

no-one i'd say can call themselves very knowledgeable

maulana ashraf ali thanawi rahmatullahi alai used to say 'i am a taalibul ilm' during his whole life, he never considered himself as an alim. but ppl today have developed a sense of satisfaction regarding the level of ones ilm,
i remember studying a hadith stating 'two persons are never satisfied,one who is seeking knowledge,and the other who is seeking the world.

true. I think Hazrat Thanwi also said that when a person becomes an alim, then he realises that in actual fact he is a jahil.

again true

"naj" wrote:

i remember studying a hadith stating 'two persons are never satisfied,one who is seeking knowledge,and the other who is seeking the world.

subhanAllah, amazing Hadith, jazakillah khair for quoting it sis. do u have the reference by any chance?

true words said by both

however i dont think the omrow was calling himself knowledgeable, rather he was reffering to others. which isnt the same.

"naj" wrote:

no im sorry aasiyah, i read things but forget where what kitaab.

no worries, i'll find it inshaAllah.

"naj" wrote:

yes i know, waz pointing out no-one can call thmselves knowledgable

yup agreed, and i was pointing out no1 called themselves knowledgeable.

yup i think we agree on the same thing

but no-one said it is all im sayin

but no1 is knowledgeable nonetheless

apprently having an empty stomach give u a soft heart

and a lil headache

Also a lot of patience, but it does tend to get to my head for a bit and i get annoyed at lil things but then i just think of all the poor ppl suffering and that I will get fed within few hours whereas the poor ppl go on to live hungary, makes you grateful for what Allah (swt) has given to you.