Baroness Warsi banned from attending GPU by David Cameron

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Seems she was told not to attend by the PM...


I wonder how the conversation went...


"... you know those mozlems... I don't like them one bit..."


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Joie de Vivre — Sun, 24 Oct 2010 - 15:05

Your deliberate ignorance, your intellectual debasement, blows my mind.


The article gives some very good reasons why the Tories are staying away. Good for them, and good for Tahir ul-Qadri, and let the government not try to do what he is doing because they cannot.


Sara_M — Sun, 24 Oct 2010 - 20:21

I don't think that it actually matters. I mean, he can stop her from going to a GPU event, but he can't stop her from voicing out her opinions, can she? If she's chair of the Conservatives, well, I reckon it's gonna take a lot more for David Cameron to defeat her. And simply because she was told not to attend, it doesn't mean anything. We don't know what the PM does behind Downing St. He may ask for her advice, and then ask her not to go. We can't be judgemental when we don't know all the facts. And I don't trust the Guardian much. It's all tabloid.


TPOS — Sun, 24 Oct 2010 - 20:28

First and foremost, WELCOME TO THE REVIVAL 😃 you are officially, our youngest friend 😛


[quote=Sara_M]I don't think that it actually matters. I mean, he can stop her from going to a GPU event, but he can't stop her from voicing out her opinions, can she?[/quote]

Yeah but she's going to have to say things which also don't go against the conservative view.

[quote=Sara]

If she's chair of the Conservatives, well, I reckon it's gonna take a lot more for David Cameron to defeat her.[/quote]

didn't think it was a fight :/

[quote=Sara]He may ask for her advice, and then ask her not to go... And I don't trust the Guardian much. It's all tabloid.[/quote]

? :S


You — Wed, 27 Oct 2010 - 20:50

Muslim cabinet minister Baroness Warsi pulled out of defending the burqa at an international TV debate because of “government pressure”, it was claimed today.


Read more @ London Evening Standard


THis deprived her of presenting her views infront of an audience of up to 350 million people, so no small cake.


[quote=Joie de Vivre]Your deliberate ignorance, your intellectual debasement, blows my mind.[/quote]


Empty words.


Some of what the new government has done since coming into power has been good, but that does not mean that these two acts are. It jsut shows how poor the last one was on many occasions.


OnOfTheStrangers (not verified) — Thu, 28 Oct 2010 - 00:06

As a right wing politician (she is a tory), why is she being invited to a peaceful event such as the GPU. What does she/the Muslims expect?

"He who does not rule by what Allah sent down, it is they who are the disbelievers."(5:44)

You have committed yourself to the system, it will control you and dictate to you what you can and cannot do. Also Islam channel inviting a person who supports injustice.. Somethingz not right there.

Salams


Joie de Vivre — Thu, 28 Oct 2010 - 15:52

[quote=You]Seems she was told not to attend by the PM...


I wonder how the conversation went...


"... you know those mozlems... I don't like them one bit..."[/quote]


[quote=Joie de Vivre]Your deliberate ignorance, your intellectual debasement, blows my mind.


The article gives some very good reasons why the Tories are staying away. Good for them, and good for Tahir ul-Qadri, and let the government not try to do what he is doing because they cannot.[/quote]


[quote=You]

Empty words.

[/quote]


I don't think that's something you can accuse me of there.


Yaser88 (not verified) — Thu, 28 Oct 2010 - 21:38

Sheikh Hakim Murad was at his eloquent best, and summed up everything - the event and the World in its current state - in His invigorating style during such a short period.


We need more like Him and Insha'Allah He is preserved for longevity and becomes the face for British [European/Western] Muslims.


RI_RS — Thu, 28 Oct 2010 - 22:44

[quote=Joie de Vivre]Your deliberate ignorance, your intellectual debasement, blows my mind.


The article gives some very good reasons why the Tories are staying away. Good for them, and good for Tahir ul-Qadri, and let the government not try to do what he is doing because they cannot.[/quote]


Woahhh, whats THAT all about?!


Joie de Vivre — Thu, 28 Oct 2010 - 23:25

[quote=MakeMeRawr_8TeenF][quote=Joie de Vivre]Your deliberate ignorance, your intellectual debasement, blows my mind.


The article gives some very good reasons why the Tories are staying away. Good for them, and good for Tahir ul-Qadri, and let the government not try to do what he is doing because they cannot.[/quote]


Woahhh, whats THAT all about?![/quote]

It's not meant as an ad hominem, no matter his humility Admin is someone with intelligence and this thread opened with a tabloid-style, rabble-rousing, debased misinterpretation. Admin is respected here and his views are steering views, and the fairly widespread attitude that repositions the Conservative party as if they were the BNP or neo-Nazi is an out-and-out smear, one I didn't expect from him. I really was that disappointed. It matters specifically because that view is essentially extremist agitprop. That's all. On reflection I understand Admin's own disappointment over the issue and perhaps I could have phrased that response with better goodwill. And then, we don't have to agree.


RI_RS — Fri, 29 Oct 2010 - 01:49

[quote=Joie de Vivre][quote=MakeMeRawr_8TeenF][quote=Joie de Vivre]Your deliberate ignorance, your intellectual debasement, blows my mind.


The article gives some very good reasons why the Tories are staying away. Good for them, and good for Tahir ul-Qadri, and let the government not try to do what he is doing because they cannot.[/quote]


Woahhh, whats THAT all about?![/quote]

It's not meant as an ad hominem, no matter his humility Admin is someone with intelligence and this thread opened with a tabloid-style, rabble-rousing, debased misinterpretation. Admin is respected here and his views are steering views, and the fairly widespread attitude that repositions the Conservative party as if they were the BNP or neo-Nazi is an out-and-out smear, one I didn't expect from him. I really was that disappointed. It matters specifically because that view is essentially extremist agitprop. That's all. On reflection I understand Admin's own disappointment over the issue and perhaps I could have phrased that response with better goodwill. And then, we don't have to agree.[/quote]


Thanks for explaining, I was really shocked when I saw that first point, I thought I Musssttt have misunderstood.


And I did (:


Yeah, I find it annoying when people are like "conservatives BOO remember margaret thatcher?!" It's like as IF it's the same as That conservativism.


You — Fri, 29 Oct 2010 - 17:56

[quote=MakeMeRawr_8TeenF]Yeah, I find it annoying when people are like "conservatives BOO remember margaret thatcher?!" It's like as IF it's the same as That conservativism.[/quote]


It may not be the same Conservative party, but that is when Cameron "grew up" and looking around him at the politicial situation in the UK, he thought "This Tory party... it is something I want to be a part of", so there is some truth to it.


(I am not saying that Thatcher was bad. I have not realy studied it and maybe what she did was necessary...)


RI_RS — Fri, 29 Oct 2010 - 18:01

[quote=You][quote=MakeMeRawr_8TeenF]Yeah, I find it annoying when people are like "conservatives BOO remember margaret thatcher?!" It's like as IF it's the same as That conservativism.[/quote]


It may not be the same Conservative party, but that is when Cameron "grew up" and looking around him at the politicial situation in the UK, he thought "This Tory party... it is something I want to be a part of", so there is some truth to it.


(I am not saying that Thatcher was bad. I have not realy studied it and maybe what she did was necessary...)[/quote]


True, it has to be called the same thing for a reason.


But it's obviously a more refined version