Submitted by Hajjar on 11 August, 2009 - 10:11 #61
Beauty is not confined to one ethnic background. It doesn't take a genius to know beauty is a very subjective thing. Allah has created variety in all His creation and in this there is beauty to be appreciated by everyone depending on their individual taste.
I think you were implying saudi women are superficial and devoid of a personality because they are known for wearing extensive make up. But that is a false assertion. Just as there are those who wear make up there are many who do not. Also for every Saudi wearing make up, sorry to burst your bubble there are Pakistani women to match that ( and other ethnic backgrounds of course). You cannot take make up alone as a basis for judging someones personality, it's pretty shallow thing to do. Yes it can reveal something about an individual but it hardly highlights their entire personality.
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“O my people! Truly, this life of the world is nothing but a (quick passing) enjoyment, and verily, the hereafter that is the home that will remain forever.” [Ghafir : 39]
I think you were implying saudi women are superficial and devoid of a personality because they are known for wearing extensive make up.
But that is a false assertion.
Just as there are those who wear make up there are many who do not.
Also for every Saudi wearing make up, sorry to burst your bubble there are Pakistani women to match that ( and other ethnic backgrounds of course).
You cannot take make up alone as a basis for judging someones personality, it's pretty shallow thing to do. Yes it can reveal something about an individual but it hardly highlights their entire personality.
I am not saying that they are ugly BECAUSE they wear makeup.
No.
Think about it:
They wear make up to LESSEN THE SHOCK of their ugliness.
I know of many pretty women who wear makeup. But they do so to enhance their beauty.
But Saudis do so to hide themselves.
Why do they even bother.
I think a simple cloth [nekab] would have done the job.
What you mean to say is that you find them ugly. Otherwise, humans/mankind has also been created in the best of forms according to a verse the Qur'an.
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"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
Since this thread has changed from its original topic, would you mind creating a new thread and shifting the ugly material there from page 1.
I just remembered that I stopped being the forum police over a year ago.
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"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
Otherwise, humans/mankind has also been created in the best of forms according to a verse the Qur'an.
Then why does God create handicapped and disabled babies?
If God can make retards, then, creating ugly Saudi women is not a major issue.
Therefore, its not just that I personally see Arab women as ugly.
No. Its not a matter of taste.
Saudi girls are made mingers.
Just as some kids are born with disability.
Submitted by Hajjar on 26 August, 2009 - 17:25 #69
assalamu alaikum]
That's the most disgusting thing you've ever said. I hope you never end up with a disabled child, Allah gives what He wills to whom ever He wishes. Disabled or able bodied, disfigured or not as muslims we are not supposed to abort, or look upon that child as a disgusting thing that should never have been born.
your comment clearly reflects your disdain not just for anyone who does not fit your criteria of "beauty" but also your disdain for ppl who are for what ever reason Allah knows best born with a disability that makes life a big enough challenge from day one, then they have bullies like you to contend with too.
I have a cousin who has Progeria go look it up, sit back and laugh if you wish,. It is a very rare condition, he may look like a teen but he is beyond his years and extremely intelligent. He can intellectually challenge an adult over the age of 30 and he runs his own business, and is entering uni. The joy he has bought his family exceeds the sad moments with his constant operations.
Physical beauty is not everything, you seem quite fixated on it. yes it matters, but if that is the primary deciding factor in the spouse you marry, children you have, friends you have then you are a very ugly soul indeed. Btw my cousin and millions of disabled ppl out there are not retards only retard around here is you, you've got verbal diarrhoea fix it this Ramadan insha'Allah!
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“O my people! Truly, this life of the world is nothing but a (quick passing) enjoyment, and verily, the hereafter that is the home that will remain forever.” [Ghafir : 39]
We all realise that Omrow doesnt find Saudi's to be pretty and yes i agree the insults he has thrown at them are disgusting but nowhere did he say disabled people are ugly!!!
and tbf whether he was using retard as a slang term or not "retards" do exist. :/
I think that comparison was just to show everyone isnt born "perfect", "normal" or even "good looking"
thats what i understood from the post anyway, hope i ddnt misunderstand it - that would be embarrasing! lol
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"How many people find fault in what they're reading and the fault is in their own understanding" Al Mutanabbi
Sister with the Power has understood me correctly.
This hajjar guy is getting all red for nothing.
Disabled people are not ugly.
In fact, at the University, I was very attracted to this girl in a wheel chair. So what if she was legless. She just couldnt walk. Everything else was fine. She was truly beautiful as well as highly intelligent.
But you have call a thing what it is.
A retard is a retard.
A leper is a leper.
A spastic is a spastic.
Deaf is deaf.
An ugly girl is an ugly girl.
A pretty chick is a pretty chick.
Saudis are ugly.
Turkey girl are pretty.
British ladies are beautiful.
Pakis are absolutely stunning.
Italians are not bad either.
Dubai women are mingers.
and face it-he's entitled to it as much as we're entitled to ours.
It's all about preference.
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#Before you look at the thorns of the rose , look at it's beauty. Before you complain about the heat of the sun , enjoy it's light. Before you complain about the blackness of the night, think of it's peace and quiet... #
Is that a biased view you express only because they are muslims, or are you
honestly describing your accurate observations.
Remember this is Ramadan.
So, just dont.
the latter but i should ad "most" into my statment but thats kinda obvious.
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"How many people find fault in what they're reading and the fault is in their own understanding" Al Mutanabbi
Submitted by The Lamp on 28 August, 2009 - 16:37 #78
Well Omrow's entitled to his opinion but I think all girls (except the cruel ones) are beautiful in their own way. Hey, but please avoid being shallow in Ramadan, thank you!
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“Before death takes away what you are given, give away whatever there is to give.”
Well Omrow's entitled to his opinion but I think all girls (except the cruel ones) are beautiful in their own way.
romeo! romeo!
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"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
Well if you must know, in terms of attractiveness, i'm least attracted to (in my age range) teenage asian dudes.
I don't like the style of young asian guys.
I hate that greasy looking spiky hairstyle and the way they think they're all that because they walk with an imaginary limp, jeans half hanging.
But of course, i'm not shallow enough to only care about what they look like. If they seem decent and capable of a conversation that goes a little further than " wagwaaaan, my mate wants your number innit" then i'll give 'em a chance (:
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#Before you look at the thorns of the rose , look at it's beauty. Before you complain about the heat of the sun , enjoy it's light. Before you complain about the blackness of the night, think of it's peace and quiet... #
I hate that greasy looking spiky hairstyle and the way they think they're all that because they walk with an imaginary limp, jeans half hanging.
that is disgusting!, but its not only asians who do the jeans half hanging thing.
But seriously, do people actually find that attractive? o.0
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#Before you look at the thorns of the rose , look at it's beauty. Before you complain about the heat of the sun , enjoy it's light. Before you complain about the blackness of the night, think of it's peace and quiet... #
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
yhhh, most of the gurls i know around oldham loveee that kind of thing
please say you don't do that.
that originated from prison.
nope am pleased to tell you i dont! i dress like a well civilised person
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"ThiS WoRlD Iz A PrIsOn 4 A BeLiVeR AnD PaRaDiSe 4 A NoN-BeLiVeR.........."
Submitted by Hajjar on 29 August, 2009 - 21:53 #90
To the Power of Silence,
Just to clarify a mistake you made, Omrow did actually ridicule disabled ppl, he not only made a comparison between them and so called "ugly" ppl/Saudis but also disabled ppl.
You can defend him if you wish i never thght he would stoop so slow.
I dont see this as light hearted banter anymore, it's overstepped the mark.
Omrow wrote:
You wrote:
Come on Omrow, that is wrong.
What you mean to say is that you find them ugly.
Otherwise, humans/mankind has also been created in the best of forms according to a verse the Qur'an.
Then why does God create handicapped and disabled babies?
If God can make retards, then, creating ugly Saudi women is not a major issue.
Therefore, its not just that I personally see Arab women as ugly.
No. Its not a matter of taste.
Saudi girls are made mingers.
Just as some kids are born with disability.
—
“O my people! Truly, this life of the world is nothing but a (quick passing) enjoyment, and verily, the hereafter that is the home that will remain forever.” [Ghafir : 39]
Beauty is not confined to one ethnic background. It doesn't take a genius to know beauty is a very subjective thing. Allah has created variety in all His creation and in this there is beauty to be appreciated by everyone depending on their individual taste.
I think you were implying saudi women are superficial and devoid of a personality because they are known for wearing extensive make up. But that is a false assertion. Just as there are those who wear make up there are many who do not. Also for every Saudi wearing make up, sorry to burst your bubble there are Pakistani women to match that ( and other ethnic backgrounds of course). You cannot take make up alone as a basis for judging someones personality, it's pretty shallow thing to do. Yes it can reveal something about an individual but it hardly highlights their entire personality.
“O my people! Truly, this life of the world is nothing but a (quick passing) enjoyment, and verily, the hereafter that is the home that will remain forever.” [Ghafir : 39]
So which is it then?
Were the comments also deliberately controversial or not?
Before I consider your reaction, you've got to first tell us that.
I am not saying that they are ugly BECAUSE they wear makeup.
No.
Think about it:
They wear make up to LESSEN THE SHOCK of their ugliness.
I know of many pretty women who wear makeup. But they do so to enhance their beauty.
But Saudis do so to hide themselves.
Why do they even bother.
I think a simple cloth [nekab] would have done the job.
Why waste money?
Who are they trying to fool.
Come on Omrow, that is wrong.
What you mean to say is that you find them ugly. Otherwise, humans/mankind has also been created in the best of forms according to a verse the Qur'an.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
Edit.
Boss, you have introduced a new controversial issue.
I think we should talk about this issue in a new thread?
Therefore, one request to YOU Boss:
Since this thread has changed from its original topic, would you mind creating a new thread and shifting the ugly material there from page 1.
There, we can talk about the beauty of the British females and good looks of Paki ladies.
We shall also address there whether ugliness in some foreign lands in accidental or Designed by the Divine.
I just remembered that I stopped being the forum police over a year ago.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
Then why does God create handicapped and disabled babies?
If God can make retards, then, creating ugly Saudi women is not a major issue.
Therefore, its not just that I personally see Arab women as ugly.
No. Its not a matter of taste.
Saudi girls are made mingers.
Just as some kids are born with disability.
assalamu alaikum]
That's the most disgusting thing you've ever said. I hope you never end up with a disabled child, Allah gives what He wills to whom ever He wishes. Disabled or able bodied, disfigured or not as muslims we are not supposed to abort, or look upon that child as a disgusting thing that should never have been born.
your comment clearly reflects your disdain not just for anyone who does not fit your criteria of "beauty" but also your disdain for ppl who are for what ever reason Allah knows best born with a disability that makes life a big enough challenge from day one, then they have bullies like you to contend with too.
I have a cousin who has Progeria go look it up, sit back and laugh if you wish,. It is a very rare condition, he may look like a teen but he is beyond his years and extremely intelligent. He can intellectually challenge an adult over the age of 30 and he runs his own business, and is entering uni. The joy he has bought his family exceeds the sad moments with his constant operations.
Physical beauty is not everything, you seem quite fixated on it. yes it matters, but if that is the primary deciding factor in the spouse you marry, children you have, friends you have then you are a very ugly soul indeed. Btw my cousin and millions of disabled ppl out there are not retards only retard around here is you, you've got verbal diarrhoea fix it this Ramadan insha'Allah!
“O my people! Truly, this life of the world is nothing but a (quick passing) enjoyment, and verily, the hereafter that is the home that will remain forever.” [Ghafir : 39]
We all realise that Omrow doesnt find Saudi's to be pretty and yes i agree the insults he has thrown at them are disgusting but nowhere did he say disabled people are ugly!!!
and tbf whether he was using retard as a slang term or not "retards" do exist. :/
I think that comparison was just to show everyone isnt born "perfect", "normal" or even "good looking"
thats what i understood from the post anyway, hope i ddnt misunderstand it - that would be embarrasing! lol
"How many people find fault in what they're reading and the fault is in their own understanding" Al Mutanabbi
Sister with the Power has understood me correctly.
This hajjar guy is getting all red for nothing.
Disabled people are not ugly.
In fact, at the University, I was very attracted to this girl in a wheel chair. So what if she was legless. She just couldnt walk. Everything else was fine. She was truly beautiful as well as highly intelligent.
But you have call a thing what it is.
A retard is a retard.
A leper is a leper.
A spastic is a spastic.
Deaf is deaf.
An ugly girl is an ugly girl.
A pretty chick is a pretty chick.
Saudis are ugly.
Turkey girl are pretty.
British ladies are beautiful.
Pakis are absolutely stunning.
Italians are not bad either.
Dubai women are mingers.
etc etc.
Why do you lot keep going around in circles?
Clearly, his opinion won't change
and face it-he's entitled to it as much as we're entitled to ours.
It's all about preference.
#Before you look at the thorns of the rose , look at it's beauty. Before you complain about the heat of the sun , enjoy it's light. Before you complain about the blackness of the night, think of it's peace and quiet... #
i did try telling them that before :/
"How many people find fault in what they're reading and the fault is in their own understanding" Al Mutanabbi
And why are you two not telling us about yours.
Who do you find pretty; and who do you find ugly?
Dont be shy now.
LOL
I think Arab's are pretty.:)
Maybe I've only seen those rare Arab's you talk about.
"How many people find fault in what they're reading and the fault is in their own understanding" Al Mutanabbi
Is that a biased view you express only because they are muslims, or are you
honestly describing your accurate observations.
Remember this is Ramadan.
So, just dont.
the latter but i should ad "most" into my statment but thats kinda obvious.
"How many people find fault in what they're reading and the fault is in their own understanding" Al Mutanabbi
Well Omrow's entitled to his opinion but I think all girls (except the cruel ones) are beautiful in their own way. Hey, but please avoid being shallow in Ramadan, thank you!
“Before death takes away what you are given, give away whatever there is to give.”
Mawlana Jalal ud Din Rumi
romeo! romeo!
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
(I just realised Omrow asked who i preffered but my reply was mainly to say that i dont think Arabs are ugly.)
"How many people find fault in what they're reading and the fault is in their own understanding" Al Mutanabbi
Very funny, Admin! LOL! ;P
“Before death takes away what you are given, give away whatever there is to give.”
Mawlana Jalal ud Din Rumi
Well if you must know, in terms of attractiveness, i'm least attracted to (in my age range) teenage asian dudes.
I don't like the style of young asian guys.
I hate that greasy looking spiky hairstyle and the way they think they're all that because they walk with an imaginary limp, jeans half hanging.
But of course, i'm not shallow enough to only care about what they look like. If they seem decent and capable of a conversation that goes a little further than " wagwaaaan, my mate wants your number innit" then i'll give 'em a chance (:
#Before you look at the thorns of the rose , look at it's beauty. Before you complain about the heat of the sun , enjoy it's light. Before you complain about the blackness of the night, think of it's peace and quiet... #
that is disgusting!, but its not only asians who do the jeans half hanging thing.
"How many people find fault in what they're reading and the fault is in their own understanding" Al Mutanabbi
"ThiS WoRlD Iz A PrIsOn 4 A BeLiVeR AnD PaRaDiSe 4 A NoN-BeLiVeR.........."
But seriously, do people actually find that attractive? o.0
#Before you look at the thorns of the rose , look at it's beauty. Before you complain about the heat of the sun , enjoy it's light. Before you complain about the blackness of the night, think of it's peace and quiet... #
yhhh, most of the gurls i know around oldham loveee that kind of thing
"ThiS WoRlD Iz A PrIsOn 4 A BeLiVeR AnD PaRaDiSe 4 A NoN-BeLiVeR.........."
So *that's* where I have been going wrong!
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
please say you don't do that.
that originated from prison.
nope am pleased to tell you i dont! i dress like a well civilised person
"ThiS WoRlD Iz A PrIsOn 4 A BeLiVeR AnD PaRaDiSe 4 A NoN-BeLiVeR.........."
To the Power of Silence,
Just to clarify a mistake you made, Omrow did actually ridicule disabled ppl, he not only made a comparison between them and so called "ugly" ppl/Saudis but also disabled ppl.
You can defend him if you wish i never thght he would stoop so slow.
I dont see this as light hearted banter anymore, it's overstepped the mark.
“O my people! Truly, this life of the world is nothing but a (quick passing) enjoyment, and verily, the hereafter that is the home that will remain forever.” [Ghafir : 39]
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