Iran's presidential election

Noor —

both mousavi and ahmadinejad are declaring victory.

i don't know why i'm interested in this but i want ahamadinejad to win.

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You — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 - 22:48

Link to above news.

Question is what does this mean for the people. Having a new/different face in office may help avoid conflict as people can claim that there is a new regime in office... harder to slur Iran with the words of the previous president.

That is the theory - Ahmedinejad's words were generally twisted and that could happen to the next guy too.

You — Sun, 14 Jun 2009 - 16:18

ok, this could get interesting.

Ahmedinejad won by quite a margin. The opposition is screaming foul. Unfortunately, that is traditional in much of the world, so no idea if there is actually a wolf, or just losers being sore.

The new outlets are running stories with the word "disputed". That is a bad word as it can allow for things to be done to liberate the people from tyranny.

Were the elections rigged? No idea, but there are atleast some who suggest that the expectation put on the opposition may have been wishful thinking at best.

You — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 - 02:42

So, the results are massively disputed (aren't they always) and there are massive protests with at least one fatality.

Is this a new Iranian revolution? Which way will they go now?

You — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 - 19:56

Story so far: People riot over a stolen election that may actually not have been stolen and there is much violence resulting in some death.

So what do people think? Was the election stolen? was there fraud? should we even care? After all it was the meddling of the foreigners that resulted in the current regime.

You — Wed, 17 Jun 2009 - 17:38

wednesdaySunni Shia conflict?

How is that relevant here?

The voters were (predominantly) shia, the establishment is shia, the contenders were shia.

You — Wed, 17 Jun 2009 - 17:45

Because they disagree. If you want icecream and your sister wants chocolate... it does not have to be that one is sunni and one is shia.

1R4M — Wed, 17 Jun 2009 - 20:06

YouBecause they disagree. If you want icecream and your sister wants chocolate... it does not have to be that one is sunni and one is shia.

eh???

You — Wed, 17 Jun 2009 - 21:38

Weds was (I think) asking if both are shia how can they have disagreements. I was just showing (in a slightly condescending manner? sorry) that other things matter too.

Replace icecream and chocolate with opposing views on any subject. Replace siblings with any two people. Disagreement is something that happens everywhere.

You — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 - 00:20

Actually, no (I will assume for this post that the election was not rigged - which is an outside possibility).

From what I have read, the people want a change to the political system. Those same people believe that Ahmedinejad is the person to give it to them.

There is another group that also wants change to the political system - this also has legitimacy in the eyes of the people because it is also lead by some ayatollahs who are not huge fans of Ayatollah khamenei.

One of the latter group is Rafsanjani, a former president and currently on the legislative and another council so he has his hands in both the big pots - laws and also who the next grand leader will be.

Ahmedinejad in the election campaign accused him of corruption, and many people agree and him actually saying it in public has won him much support too - his supported see him as the outsider trying to reform the system, but the new guy who they see as part of the corrupt establishment.

Saying all that, it will be interesting to know if the elections were rigged and how badly.