Pakis go to them if someone done nazar on them I fink. They think they will sort thier problems out but we can only rely on Allaah to do this... so going to peers can b a form of shirk.
Come on ppl we're choosing big topics and not doing them justice.
A Peer or a Shaykh is a spiritual teacher. He has to be a fully qualified scholar who has also mastered the art of Tasawwuf (spiritualism) from his shaykh. He has to have Ijaza to give give religious and spiritual advice from his Shaykh.
The Peer/ Shaykh helps you to become a better and practising Muslim by guiding you on carrying out extra prayers/ forms of worship etc to increase your Imaan and to fight your ego.
An Aalim will increase your knowledge, a Peer/Shaykh will increase your spirituality and take your level of nafs(ego) from the lowest ego to a higher one which is more obedient to Allah (swt).
Today alot of peers are dodgy and have turned the role in to a business. But genuine ones do exist, its a matter of finding them.
TheRevivalEditor He has to be a fully qualified scholar
Well, considering that the prophet (God the Exalted bless him and give him peace) was never formally educated, I don't think this is a requirement at all. In fact ,t here is no doubt about it.
TheRevivalEditor He has to be a fully qualified scholar
Well, considering that the prophet (God the Exalted bless him and give him peace) was never formally educated, I don't think this is a requirement at all. In fact ,t here is no doubt about it.
Yeah but the prophet was... the last prophet (pbuh) you'd expect him to know his stuff.
Everyone else needs to be qualifed.
So has it been written so shall it be.
member of my fam recently took 'bayth' from a peer.
Basically what it is supposed to mean is that that "peer" will help him become a better Muslim. Now it depends on the "pir" and the person as to what will happen. Some people just do it out of symbolism.
@Berachia - knowledge is very important. The prophet ﷺ may not have been taught by man, but he was taught by Allah (swt).
If a "pir" does not have the knowledge to guide, he may cause more harm than good.
TheRevivalEditor He has to be a fully qualified scholar
Well, considering that the prophet (God the Exalted bless him and give him peace) was never formally educated, I don't think this is a requirement at all. In fact ,t here is no doubt about it.
Yeah but the prophet was... the last prophet (pbuh) you'd expect him to know his stuff.
Everyone else needs to be qualifed.
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Alisha Fri, 23 Nov 2007 - 13:11
Pirs.
Peer guidance wallah type person ? :S
Pakis go to them if someone done nazar on them I fink. They think they will sort thier problems out but we can only rely on Allaah to do this... so going to peers can b a form of shirk.
^^ Thats what I know about peers :S
Sajid Iqbal Fri, 23 Nov 2007 - 14:27
Pirs.
Come on ppl we're choosing big topics and not doing them justice.
A Peer or a Shaykh is a spiritual teacher. He has to be a fully qualified scholar who has also mastered the art of Tasawwuf (spiritualism) from his shaykh. He has to have Ijaza to give give religious and spiritual advice from his Shaykh.
The Peer/ Shaykh helps you to become a better and practising Muslim by guiding you on carrying out extra prayers/ forms of worship etc to increase your Imaan and to fight your ego.
An Aalim will increase your knowledge, a Peer/Shaykh will increase your spirituality and take your level of nafs(ego) from the lowest ego to a higher one which is more obedient to Allah (swt).
Today alot of peers are dodgy and have turned the role in to a business. But genuine ones do exist, its a matter of finding them.
Berachia Fri, 23 Nov 2007 - 17:08
Pirs.
Well, considering that the prophet (God the Exalted bless him and give him peace) was never formally educated, I don't think this is a requirement at all. In fact ,t here is no doubt about it.
Oldham_Lad25 Fri, 23 Nov 2007 - 17:55
Pirs.
oh ok thats cool. A member of my fam recently took 'bayth' from a peer. what does that mean?
I do apologise about my ignorance or lack of knowledge...im on the path back to my religion Inshallah...takin everytin 1 step at a time.
Seraphim Fri, 23 Nov 2007 - 18:57
Pirs.
Yeah but the prophet was... the last prophet (pbuh) you'd expect him to know his stuff.
Everyone else needs to be qualifed.
So has it been written so shall it be.
He took a bath with a peer?... lol... 😂 okayyyyy
Noor Fri, 23 Nov 2007 - 19:01
Pirs.
bayah - allegiance/oath
You Fri, 23 Nov 2007 - 19:48
Pirs.
Basically what it is supposed to mean is that that "peer" will help him become a better Muslim. Now it depends on the "pir" and the person as to what will happen. Some people just do it out of symbolism.
@Berachia - knowledge is very important. The prophet ﷺ may not have been taught by man, but he was taught by Allah (swt).
If a "pir" does not have the knowledge to guide, he may cause more harm than good.
Funzo Fri, 23 Nov 2007 - 21:31
Pirs.
you read my mind lol.
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