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Well that back-fired! I was trying to be all nochalant like 'You' and get a decent answer out of Wednesday but she wasn't taking the bait so I'll have to post something myself.
SubhanAllah! You've come along way Ya'qub...and as a convert I sort of expected that would happen eventually. Carry on travelling, as Sheryl Crow points out, the road may be long and winding but you "get a little bit closer."
Gentleness and kindness were never a part of anything except that it made it beautiful, and harshness was never a part of anything except that it made it ugly.
Through cheating, stealing, and lying, one may get required results but finally one becomes
An eye for an eye. Wow omg i feel soo sorry for her i cant imagine being blind! and the guy is so ugh!!! seriously i just feel like screaming! and definitely she should do that to him!! I would! An eye for an eye.
The knowledge that the person has paid for what they did? the knowledge that people will know that doing something as such will get them serious punishment?
I read online (so it must be true) that the "eye for an eye" principle is one of replacement...
... So if someone did this act to you and as a punishment you could get your eyes "swapped" with those of the aggressor, would you?
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
Maybe, a short lasting feeling of that feeling that comes with doing revenge.
He doesn't have to because the plight of the woman who IS BLIND is enough for him to evoke the sensation. I'm not attacking you s.b.f in fact I'm glad you're so mercy-centered, we need more folk like you. However, I happen to feel that this guy committed a barbaric crime and punishment is required for redress.
He's in prison and one could argue that that is sufficient punishment. He could be forced to pay blood money which again could be argued to be sufficient punishment. However justice is based on the redress of hurt. And the person who was hurt was neither you nor me. It was the woman. If she says I want an "eye for an eye" then I feel that both me and you should support her on the principle that it is her right to ask it, and so long as she remains within the sacred constraints of the law it is her perogative to seek healing for her hurt.
About Revenge
I gave a link that defined revenge as "retaliation: action taken in return for an injury or offense." I was expecting people to say, "No that's the definition of justice. Revenge is something else"
Well for me revenge is something else. Something below the standard of loft morals. For just as Jealousy differs from admiration in that jealousy additionally requires an aspect of ill feeling towards its object, revenge differs from justice in that it also requires ill feeling towards its object.
Justice is redress for a wrong, that heals the hurt and acts within the constraints of the law. Revenge is also born from a desire to heal the hurt, however its primary goal is to fulfil its purpose through inflicting hurt upon the person who first caused you pain. Justice is understood to be synonymous with balance, it seeks only to fulfil itself up to the degree of the original wrong.
Note that with this definition of justice shows that its primary concern is with the physical damage caused and not so much the emotional damage. This demonstrates the superiority of benevolence over justice in that justice will only create a vista for your emotional hurt to be healed. The act of healing the heart must in the end come from the qualities of the heart. I.e. even after justice is done, personal benevolence is required to complete the work of justice.
Also note that we are human and sometimes its so hard to bear the pain that we "must have satisfaction (revenge)." This also applies to observers of justice, I was in a tigerish mood when I previously posted. My hippie levels have since returned to normal.
Gentleness and kindness were never a part of anything except that it made it beautiful, and harshness was never a part of anything except that it made it ugly.
Through cheating, stealing, and lying, one may get required results but finally one becomes
No i wouldnt swap with the guys eyes! no way! However i would do that to make him feel what it feels like not to have eyes! But then again on the day ill probably pull a eastender and say i dont want him to lose his eyes.
I haven't actually taken any sides to this case.
An eye for an eye just leaves the entire world blind.
Better to just execute them.
Back in BLACK
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
I honestly don't know what I'd do in this situation. I'd like to think that knowing that he'd be locked up for life - inshallah would be enough. And then knowing that would prevent him from doing the same to anyone else would be good I think. If on the other hand the sentence was hardly nothing and he wasn't at all remorseful at the end of it... I don't know. It all seems very angry and bitter to me, which is a scary thing.
This lady should do what she feels like doing as long as it's within law. I think 'an eye for an eye' is a very good and effective deterrent though. But it takes guts I think.
Would I want his eyes, absolutely no.
And as for blood money, again no. Anything I spent the money on would just remind me of him. I don't understand how that would possibly help in anyway.
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"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
In the original article first posted on here she says she doesn't want to do this for revenge. But after having seventeen operations she is desperate for revenge.
Both the attack on her and the punishment for the attacker are gruesome.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
Astaghfirullah :S
"How many people find fault in what they're reading and the fault is in their own understanding" Al Mutanabbi
I know shes had a lot going on. But I wonder if she at all will feel any guilt for what shes about to do? at all.
i dont think i could ever do it, i understand how she must be feeling but i dont think i could do that to someone else after having it done to myself, but then again i havnt been put in that position and she really must want the revenge.
"How many people find fault in what they're reading and the fault is in their own understanding" Al Mutanabbi
Have you seen the picture in the link I have? and if that is the case after SEVENTEEN corrective surgeries etc, it must have been horrendous to start off with.
As for being able to deliver such a thing, I doubt many people can.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
From an Islamic point of view, what is the best thing to do, in her situation?
But is it justice or revenge?
Revenge is a dish best served cold....
Back in BLACK
Islamically, she has a right to demand equal treatment, but there is also the principle that forgiveness is normally better.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
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Can be both.
In that case, this case could be a clear example/warning to people who consider carrying out acid attack on someone.
Are women the majority who seem to be the victims to acid attack?
Horrendous.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
The video?
the attack more than the video itself. the video was not that bad.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
wierd. Why did you randomly write the word: 'Horrendous' after like so many posts?
Ya Allah!
are you thinking 'horrendous' too?
But if she justifies it to herself that she is warning others that if they do the same crime, there will be grave consequences, maybe that will make her feel all warm and fuzzy?
I asked this question on Tribune once... just imagine she she decided not to take this approach, the person was sentenced to a long prison sentence, but ten years down the line was released, either due to end of sentence or "good behaviour", and then ended up attacking someone else, would she not feel guilty for not stopping him when she could have?
Besides, from the reports, the guy did not feel remorse was was toying with her even in he court hearings. Evil.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
Or what if he IS blinded and then, because of his anger at this, throws acid onto one of her children! Extreme, I know. But things CAN keep yo-yoing until the fight becomes less about the original offence/injustice and more about the fact of 'getting even'.
Don't just do something! Stand there.
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