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Yeah what he said.
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Thats why i love this forum because too many discussions like this would make it boring not enough would make it dull.
Those who danced were thought to be quite insane, by those who couldn't hear the music...
not really...
Do it anyway lol.
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no. it'll get me thinking and when i start thinking theres no stopping
because its too hot
lol
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cz you'll be too busy burning!
Aaaawwww, poor noory
There there. You dont hav to if you dont want to.
Your such a good lil girl... yes you are... yes you are... there you go... good girl... good girl.
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you're so annoying, did you know that? well you do now.
LOL, sorry.... cant help it.
cant exactly turn it off.
but for you, i will turn it down a lil.
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i think hes funny
Those who danced were thought to be quite insane, by those who couldn't hear the music...
would i be classed as an oldie on this forum?
Those who danced were thought to be quite insane, by those who couldn't hear the music...
off topic!
I dunno... theres soo few of us left anymore.
I think the people who were on here when we had the original green proboards (brings back memories) are classed as oldies. Me, MS, MslilSis, Angel, Omrow, Admin, Ed are the only ones left.
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just answer the question three years on the forum in a week!
Those who danced were thought to be quite insane, by those who couldn't hear the music...
by the way the last post was for noor.
Those who danced were thought to be quite insane, by those who couldn't hear the music...
ok no drifting any further please
I think im coming onto 7/8 years on here now.
The others ofcourse were here before even I.
but i think... i would now start classifying you as an oldie.
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Apologies sis.
Pls continue
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Shut up!!! lol
Those who danced were thought to be quite insane, by those who couldn't hear the music...
and which ones a girls best friend?
{runs a quick hand through his hair}
lol
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Sure sure
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Sid chill... im not putting a ring on your finger.
lol
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lol. i hate gold too, dimond, i love
ahem... off topic
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That was my polite way of saying take this jewellery conversation else where (i.e. the no topic thread)
Instead of littering this thread.
tut tut women :roll:
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Wow...Four pages of sensible conversation. Well, three pages of sensible conversation and half a page of idle chit-chat, but well done to everyone, anyway!
Unfortunately a lot of what many people wrote was very...err... weird?
Can I just say something about atheism (as a former atheist): Atheism is NOT a religion, and Atheists don't see 'science' as a religion either. Get this out your heads. 90% of Muslims I've met say something similar to this, and it is utterly misleading and does not help you 'understand' them either.
Also, atheism is NOT a belief in 'nothing', or not having a belief at all. And Agnosticism is when someone is unsure about whether God (or 'a god') exists or doesn't exist.
And Free Will... of course we have Free Will. If we didn't have Free Will then the existence of Enternal Punishment would be grossly, GROSSLY unfair, and would render Allah (swt) nothing more than a sadist (astaghfiruallah).
People say that because the 'book is closed and the ink is dry', then we all already have our 'Final Destination' mapped out for us. This is only true in-so-much that Allah (swt) exists outside of time. In a way, He has 'already seen' our final resting place, or more accurately, He knows what it 'will be', because He knows everything. But in all talk of Allah's (swt) knowledge and foresite, we have to realise that a human mind can only understand this concept through metaphor, because we can never get close to understanding His (swt) knowledge AT ALL.
The fact that He has written out our life already does not mean that we don't make our own choices, or that we aren't responsible. If you see a blind man walking along a road towards a hole, you might 'know' that he will fall into the hole, and you might write it in a book. But would this mean for a second that you were the one who pushed him into the hole? Of course not.
And I have been spending whole nights talking to my housemates about punishment/reward. I was, for a long time, uncomfortable with the fact that people who have no knowledge or belief in Allah (swt) would be punished, simply because they didn't believe. Even if they had been an honest person with good morals who hadn't stolen in their life, or been selfish, or even committed ANY other sin (other than disbelief). WHY is Kufr the biggest of all sins? Why is it worse than murder, worse than rape?
But now I realise something. EVERYTHING in existence points towards the existence of a creator. If you look at the stars in the sky at night, or the changing of the seasons, or even at the smile on a babies face (I know these are cliches, but they have become cliches for a good reason: they really ARE amazing).
Nobody can be fully blind to the beauty of creation, NO one can be deaf to the call of Allah (swt). It is barely relevant whether they have had access to the Qur'an, because all that Allah (swt) asks is that someone acknowledges His existence (as Noor posted, anyone who has an atom's weight/mustard seed's worth of Eeman will enter Jannah).
The only reason why someone can live in this world and NOT believe in Allah (swt), is if they have taken something else as their 'god'. This could be their own selfish desires: They 'refuse' to acknowledge they are dependant on some-One else for their own existence and sustenance (even though they 'know' that they are, deep down inside their heart). If they ignore their internal call - their Fitrah, then they utterly deserve punishment, because we all know that 'Mankind and Jinn have ONLY been created to worship Allah (swt)' (as it says in Surah al-Baqarah).
I apologise for the low quality of how I've expressed this, it would take hours (or more likely days) to adequately express my opinions on this. Can I ask everyone here to pray that my family sees the Truth before its too late. Jazak'Allah.
Don't just do something! Stand there.
Ameen. Inshallah. Bilal Philips learnt that the "silver bullet" may be to be the best son, brother, cousin or friend you can to the people concerned. Inshallah that'll work for you.
Chin up, mate! Life's too short.
Salam
When the Angels of God see you carry out an act of terrorism,
it is then too late for you to be saved from the Fire of Hell.
And, as you all know, according to Prophet Mohammed's teachings,
you considered as one of them when you are seen helping those who
commit an evil act of terrorism.
Helpers of evil people are also evil. They too will burn in Hell.
That is the real Islam which most people still do not know.
Omrow
Ameen.
Very elequently and beautifully put, I thought. Thank you for that post, its been niggling at me for a while.
May Allah shine sweet faith upon you this day and times beyond. May your heart be enriched with peace, and may your home be blessed always. Ameen.
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