wednesday wrote:

Seraphim wrote:

Young Anonymous Muslimah wrote:

'A series of Unfortunate events'? Nah!!

It happens, trust me. Its when a load of crap happens at the same time, and people turn and blame God for it. And say things like how could God allow such a thing etc etc they get mad and as a way of striking back they give up on their faith.

The fear of loss is a path to the darkside.

the concept of accpeting the occurance of BAD alongside GOOD

tears always follow from laughter... or good days always follow on from the bad days (how ever you want to phrase it... you can put smile before a sad face or a sad face before a smile, samething but the order is different which shouldn't matter because it's a cycle!)... it's just how HUMANS work... that's their niche

basically, 'after hardship comes ease' ALWAYS. even if ease comes in the form of death.

wednesday wrote:

Noor wrote:

wednesday wrote:

Noor, But that doesn't mean we can blame the shaiytan for making us disbelieve on the day of judgement!

definitely not but he can place doubts.

and we are to 'fight' it i believe?

insha'Allah

Young Anonymous Muslimah wrote:

wednesday wrote:

Seraphim wrote:

Young Anonymous Muslimah wrote:

'A series of Unfortunate events'? Nah!!

It happens, trust me. Its when a load of crap happens at the same time, and people turn and blame God for it. And say things like how could God allow such a thing etc etc they get mad and as a way of striking back they give up on their faith.

The fear of loss is a path to the darkside.

the concept of accpeting the occurance of BAD alongside GOOD

tears always follow from laughter... or good days always follow on from the bad days (how ever you want to phrase it... you can put smile before a sad face or a sad face before a smile, samething but the order is different which shouldn't matter because it's a cycle!)... it's just how HUMANS work... that's their niche

basically, 'after hardship comes ease' ALWAYS. even if ease comes in the form of death.

i wish for death a lot. sometimes it seems the only way out.

Seraphim wrote:

Noor wrote:

Seraphim wrote:

Young Anonymous Muslimah wrote:

'A series of Unfortunate events'? Nah!!

It happens, trust me. Its when a load of crap happens at the same time, and people turn and blame God for it. And say things like how could God allow such a thing etc etc they get mad and as a way of striking back they give up on their faith.

Aawwww, noor did that upset you?

there there little one.

it'll be okay.

all the none believers will eventually burn in hell

:roll:

wednesday wrote:

Young Anonymous Muslimah wrote:

Seraphim wrote:

Young Anonymous Muslimah wrote:

'A series of Unfortunate events'? Nah!!

It happens, trust me. Its when a load of crap happens at the same time, and people turn and blame God for it. And say things like how could God allow such a thing etc etc they get mad and as a way of striking back they give up on their faith.

The fear of loss is a path to the darkside.

Soz, i meant the books.
twas a joke. :oops:

lol, you like em too? I LOVED readin em! and the movie, Sunny being the best character

Nah, i read them all, but i kinda felt there was a deeper meaning there that i wasn't reachin, either that or it was just the style of writin. movie was o.k if you didn't read all the books.( i have that thing with book movies!) :?

Seraphim wrote:

Funzo wrote:

And somebody(wednesday) said there was no good discussion going on lol.

lol, why do you think i started this topic?

and thats why your jedi.

Noor wrote:

Young Anonymous Muslimah wrote:

wednesday wrote:

Seraphim wrote:

Young Anonymous Muslimah wrote:

'A series of Unfortunate events'? Nah!!

It happens, trust me. Its when a load of crap happens at the same time, and people turn and blame God for it. And say things like how could God allow such a thing etc etc they get mad and as a way of striking back they give up on their faith.

The fear of loss is a path to the darkside.

the concept of accpeting the occurance of BAD alongside GOOD

tears always follow from laughter... or good days always follow on from the bad days (how ever you want to phrase it... you can put smile before a sad face or a sad face before a smile, samething but the order is different which shouldn't matter because it's a cycle!)... it's just how HUMANS work... that's their niche

i heard a hadith about that cant remember now.
basically, 'after hardship comes ease' ALWAYS. even if ease comes in the form of death.

i wish for death a lot. sometimes it seems the only way out.

Noor wrote:

Young Anonymous Muslimah wrote:

wednesday wrote:

Seraphim wrote:

Young Anonymous Muslimah wrote:

'A series of Unfortunate events'? Nah!!

It happens, trust me. Its when a load of crap happens at the same time, and people turn and blame God for it. And say things like how could God allow such a thing etc etc they get mad and as a way of striking back they give up on their faith.

The fear of loss is a path to the darkside.

the concept of accpeting the occurance of BAD alongside GOOD

tears always follow from laughter... or good days always follow on from the bad days (how ever you want to phrase it... you can put smile before a sad face or a sad face before a smile, samething but the order is different which shouldn't matter because it's a cycle!)... it's just how HUMANS work... that's their niche

i heard a hadith about that cant remember now.
basically, 'after hardship comes ease' ALWAYS. even if ease comes in the form of death.

i wish for death a lot. sometimes it seems the only way out.

I remember hearing a hadith about this.

Funzo wrote:

Noor wrote:

Young Anonymous Muslimah wrote:

wednesday wrote:

Seraphim wrote:

Young Anonymous Muslimah wrote:

'A series of Unfortunate events'? Nah!!

It happens, trust me. Its when a load of crap happens at the same time, and people turn and blame God for it. And say things like how could God allow such a thing etc etc they get mad and as a way of striking back they give up on their faith.

The fear of loss is a path to the darkside.

the concept of accpeting the occurance of BAD alongside GOOD

tears always follow from laughter... or good days always follow on from the bad days (how ever you want to phrase it... you can put smile before a sad face or a sad face before a smile, samething but the order is different which shouldn't matter because it's a cycle!)... it's just how HUMANS work... that's their niche

i heard a hadith about that cant remember now.
basically, 'after hardship comes ease' ALWAYS. even if ease comes in the form of death.

i wish for death a lot. sometimes it seems the only way out.

I remember hearing a hadith about this.

i no. astagfirullah

I used to say i did'nt mind if i died now, but now i'm really scared!
if you wish to die you must be really sure of your Imaan.

Seraphim wrote:

Funzo wrote:

I remember hearing a hadith about this.

share with the group.

its not nice to just say that and not share

we shouldn't ask for death but a long life instead.

Honestly i cant remember and i dont think i should give you a guess, i thought somebody else would know *ehem* noor *ehem*.

Seraphim wrote:

Funzo wrote:

Honestly i cant remember and i dont think i should give you a guess, i thought somebody else would know *ehem* noor *ehem*.

She does... she just pointed it out above
and it was pretty much what i had already said... and i didnt even knw about that hadith.
are we all caught up now?

no i was expecting quote plus commentary on it and it wasnt that hadith.

Seraphim wrote:

What confuses me, is that alot of the time you think "fantastic, Allah (swt) has made sooo many ways and excuses to get us into heaven. That its gotta be a sure deal."
but then there are times when it appears that even the littlest of things can stop you from getting in.

Does that seem fair to you?

yes.

Funzo wrote:

Seraphim wrote:

Funzo wrote:

Honestly i cant remember and i dont think i should give you a guess, i thought somebody else would know *ehem* noor *ehem*.

She does... she just pointed it out above
and it was pretty much what i had already said... and i didnt even knw about that hadith.
are we all caught up now?

no i was expecting quote plus commentary on it and it wasnt that hadith.

The Prophet (blessings and peace be upon him) said, " None of you should wish for death because of a calamity befalling him; but if he has to wish for death, he should say: "O Allah! Keep me alive as long as life is better for me, and let me die if death is better for me.' "

Sahih Al-Bukhari Hadith 7.575 Narrated by Anas bin Malik (r.a.)

Seraphim wrote:

What confuses me, is that alot of the time you think "fantastic, Allah (swt) has made sooo many ways and excuses to get us into heaven. That its gotta be a sure deal."
but then there are times when it appears that even the littlest of things can stop you from getting in.

Does that seem fair to you?

the slightest thing can get you in to heaven and vice versa with hell

example of a story of two brothers one live upstairs was religious did his duties the other not religious didnt read namaz did all the bad things etc
one day the brother upstairs thought that my brother is having so much fun i wanna join him by sinning
the other brother thought what is this life getting me? and he realised that he was getting nothing so he wanted to go upstairs to his brother
one of them slipped while going down the stairs on to the one going up the stairs and they both died
the sinner went to heaven and the good one went to hell, it shows you just based on there intentions there fate was decided. I wouldnt say its unfair because if god wanted we wouldnt have a life we would be dead and we are given immortality if we follow a set of rules which arent that hard when realistically we do nothing to deserve it.

Noor wrote:

Funzo wrote:

Seraphim wrote:

Funzo wrote:

Honestly i cant remember and i dont think i should give you a guess, i thought somebody else would know *ehem* noor *ehem*.

She does... she just pointed it out above
and it was pretty much what i had already said... and i didnt even knw about that hadith.
are we all caught up now?

no i was expecting quote plus commentary on it and it wasnt that hadith.

The Prophet (blessings and peace be upon him) said, " None of you should wish for death because of a calamity befalling him; but if he has to wish for death, he should say: "O Allah! Keep me alive as long as life is better for me, and let me die if death is better for me.' "

Sahih Al-Bukhari Hadith 7.575 Narrated by Anas bin Malik (r.a.)

thats the noor i know

wednesday wrote:

Noor wrote:

Funzo wrote:

Seraphim wrote:

Funzo wrote:

Honestly i cant remember and i dont think i should give you a guess, i thought somebody else would know *ehem* noor *ehem*.

She does... she just pointed it out above
and it was pretty much what i had already said... and i didnt even knw about that hadith.
are we all caught up now?

no i was expecting quote plus commentary on it and it wasnt that hadith.

The Prophet (blessings and peace be upon him) said, " None of you should wish for death because of a calamity befalling him; but if he has to wish for death, he should say: "O Allah! Keep me alive as long as life is better for me, and let me die if death is better for me.' "

Sahih Al-Bukhari Hadith 7.575 Narrated by Anas bin Malik (r.a.)

O did everyone see the manner and politeness that a death is? That is a VERY clever link to Qadr, hence leaving it to Allah's will alone!

well the prophet did say it

Seraphim wrote:

What confuses me, is that alot of the time you think "fantastic, Allah (swt) has made sooo many ways and excuses to get us into heaven. That its gotta be a sure deal."
but then there are times when it appears that even the littlest of things can stop you from getting in.

Does that seem fair to you?

yes, its all about perspective, but sometimes its exactly that, that throws me. It feels like its contradictory...? :?

wednesday wrote:

Funzo wrote:

wednesday wrote:

Noor wrote:

Funzo wrote:

Seraphim wrote:

Funzo wrote:

Honestly i cant remember and i dont think i should give you a guess, i thought somebody else would know *ehem* noor *ehem*.

She does... she just pointed it out above
and it was pretty much what i had already said... and i didnt even knw about that hadith.
are we all caught up now?

no i was expecting quote plus commentary on it and it wasnt that hadith.

The Prophet (blessings and peace be upon him) said, " None of you should wish for death because of a calamity befalling him; but if he has to wish for death, he should say: "O Allah! Keep me alive as long as life is better for me, and let me die if death is better for me.' "

Sahih Al-Bukhari Hadith 7.575 Narrated by Anas bin Malik (r.a.)

O did everyone see the manner and politeness that a death is? That is a VERY clever link to Qadr, hence leaving it to Allah's will alone!

well the prophet did say it

hence clever!

exactly but you said it as if you were suprised.

Young Anonymous Muslimah wrote:

Seraphim wrote:

What confuses me, is that alot of the time you think "fantastic, Allah (swt) has made sooo many ways and excuses to get us into heaven. That its gotta be a sure deal."
but then there are times when it appears that even the littlest of things can stop you from getting in.

Does that seem fair to you?

yes, its all about perspective, but sometimes its exactly that, that throws me. It feels like its contradictory...? :?

it seems contradictory because we assume we deserve a chance of heaven and just the chance of us going to hell seems unfair when in reality its unfair were allowed to go to heaven.