Prophet SAW made from Noor?

Salaam all.

As you can see im new and this is my first topic(and post). I was told about this forum by sister on another forum. She had also gave me info and help on such things as Milad un nabi and salaaming/touching peoples feet out of love/respect. Although some of those things are still unclear to me for various reasons, this is another issue which is somewhat unclear to me.

Id appreciate it if someone could bring some evidences forward to prove this or prove it isnt true.

JazzakAllah for your help and apologies in advance if iv said anything rude or offensive.

sorry to be a spoilt support but as we have no scholars on the forum its best to ask this Q to a scholar or I can ask a scholar for you. Personal views from ppl here will just create misguidance.

so only post a link of an answer from a scholar pls.... no personal views as this issue is for ulema to debate and discuss.

I thought people could post up hadiths or something which could indicate some sort of an answer, which is what happened on another forum. But yes if you could ask a scholar for me id very much appreciate it.

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Have you lot read up on wave-particle duality?

Take an electron. Treat it as a wave and it behaves as a wave. Treat it as a particle and it behaves like a particle.

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You wrote:
Have you lot read up on wave-particle duality?

Take an electron. Treat it as a wave and it behaves as a wave. Treat it as a particle and it behaves like a particle.

Yeah...pretty mind-blowing stuff.

Here is a video that explains it quite well:

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There are countless places where it tells u the Propeht Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him is noor..

Surah 5:15: Verily there has come to you a light (the Prophet Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him) and a clear book(the holy Qur'aan)

Thats one clear verse from the Qur'aan which tell us that the Prophet Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him is noor. =)

The Holy Prophet Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him says
"There is a polish for everything that takes away rust; and the polish for the heart is the remembrance of Allah."
(Bukhari)

Ya Ali Madaad!

We Shia Muslims are taught by our Ayatollahs that there is one hadith in which Prophet Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him said that before he and Imam Ali were created by Allah from Divine Light before everything else.
Prophet said he and Imam Ali were created from same light. They are first of Allah's creation.

This is my belief.

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Lol.. dont want to like be rude..

but everywhere it says the Prophet Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him was the first to be created from noor.. in Jannah, on every leaf, on every door, it says Muhammad Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him.. where has Hazarat Ali (ra) come from?

The Prophet Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him's status and Hazarat Ali's status are very very VERY different.. i dont understand why people of the Shia sect think Hazarat Ali is an equal of the Propeht Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him..

The Holy Prophet Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him says
"There is a polish for everything that takes away rust; and the polish for the heart is the remembrance of Allah."
(Bukhari)

Who said Imam Ali is equal to Prophet?

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malik wrote:
Who said Imam Ali is equal to Prophet?

well dats what could be perceived by your earlier post ...

Infinite number of square waves make up a sine wave

love to live but living to die wrote:
malik wrote:
Who said Imam Ali is equal to Prophet?

well dats what could be perceived by your earlier post ...

yep =]

The Holy Prophet Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him says
"There is a polish for everything that takes away rust; and the polish for the heart is the remembrance of Allah."
(Bukhari)

xSmurfy786x wrote:
There are countless places where it tells u the Propeht Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him is noor..

Surah 5:15: Verily there has come to you a light (the Prophet Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him) and a clear book(the holy Qur'aan)

Thats one clear verse from the Qur'aan which tell us that the Prophet Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him is noor. =)

Err...

I'm not one to interpret, but couldn't that be taken to mean that the Prophet Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him 'lights the way to Allah (swt)' by giving us guidance to live our lives by, not necessarily 'Divine Light'

By the way, I don't understand the difference between Noor/normal light.

Is there any? Surely all light is from Allah (swt), whether it comes from the sun or a pocket torch. Any info?

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u mean Divine light and sun light? the names give away a little... BUT you could ask here: if the sun is Allah's creation then will it be divinely inspired?

you've just reminded me of a qustion i always get stuck on... if anything is Allah's creation then are WE divinely inspired? if not then what is divinely inspired ... something that we haven't seen but have blind faith in? (O thats FAITH!)

Infinite number of square waves make up a sine wave

the most comprehensive article i have come across on this isue is as follows, pls read all then comment. first remember ulema have ikhtilaaf on this issue.

good read:
http://www.sunnah.org/aqida/light_of_the_prophet_sall.htm

Ya'qub wrote:
xSmurfy786x wrote:
There are countless places where it tells u the Propeht Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him is noor..

Surah 5:15: Verily there has come to you a light (the Prophet Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him) and a clear book(the holy Qur'aan)

Thats one clear verse from the Qur'aan which tell us that the Prophet Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him is noor. =)

Err...

I'm not one to interpret, but couldn't that be taken to mean that the Prophet Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him 'lights the way to Allah (swt)' by giving us guidance to live our lives by, not necessarily 'Divine Light'

By the way, I don't understand the difference between Noor/normal light.

Is there any? Surely all light is from Allah (swt), whether it comes from the sun or a pocket torch. Any info?

The story of when the prophet Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him asked jibra'il (as) how old he was? and he replied i dont know but all i can remember when i was created i saw a light and then the prophet Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him that light was me.

Indeed Allah and His angels send blessings on the Prophet; O People who Believe! Send blessings and abundant salutations upon him. Al ahzab [33,56]

malik wrote:
Ya Ali Madaad!

We Shia Muslims are taught by our Ayatollahs that there is one hadith in which Prophet Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him said that before he and Imam Ali were created by Allah from Divine Light before everything else.
Prophet said he and Imam Ali were created from same light. They are first of Allah's creation.

This is my belief.

Hadhrat Adam (AS) when asking for forgiveness said to ALLAH swt that forgive me for the sake of Muhammad Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him and ALLAH swt enquired where did you find that from and Hadhrat Adam (as) replied i saw on your throne it said there is no god except ALLAH swt and muhammad Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him is his messenger, and from that i realised muhammad Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him must be significant.
If as you believe that imam ali where created in the same light and there names together surely hadhrat adam (as) would have said forgive me for the sake of muhammadPeace and Blessings of Allah be upon him and ali(ra)?

Indeed Allah and His angels send blessings on the Prophet; O People who Believe! Send blessings and abundant salutations upon him. Al ahzab [33,56]

Funzo - stop it.

You are extremely sectarian.

But just to answer your question, read qur'an 7:12. There was a covenant made with all souls before our current "existence", so that indicated that souls already existed.)

It’s a brand new day
And the sun is high
All the birds are singing
That you’re gonna die

You wrote:
Funzo - stop it.

You are extremely sectarian.

How so?

Indeed Allah and His angels send blessings on the Prophet; O People who Believe! Send blessings and abundant salutations upon him. Al ahzab [33,56]