salaam
interesting post yuit,
i suppose most of us only read the western media, so it makes a change to hear something different from teh media on this issue.
i think everyone has got their own views and issues about the taliban.
I know shaykh hamza yusuf was very critical of the taliban and i kind of agreed with what he was saying.
wasalaam

Yeah, I am in no doubt that most of the afghani who came to the Uk who ain't religious hated the Taliban, that understandable. But, I was always interested to hear from the more religious one. They too were not fond of the Taliban as well and they didn't agree with everything they done, but they were much more critical of teh muslims generally worldwide, and they stated that they felt rejected. Because too many muslims countries were quick to cut off ties with them on the say so of other, leaving the people to suffer.

I think that there was too much of a one sided view given to the world about the Taliban and that was due to the fact they didn't do much PR, which cost them in the end. It seem that some of the info given was false about the Taliban, we only need to realise what Blair said about the fact that getting rid of herion was another good reason to go after the Taliban, when we all knew what teh Taliban done with Drugs, also Yvvone Ridley case is another very interesting one on the subject as well, which also goes against what we heard in the media here. Here another interesting article on the Taliban.

http://www.beautifulislam.net/taliban/canada_physician.htm

Yvonne Ridley was captured by them talibans yeh?

did she become a muslim later?

"Medievalist" wrote:

Yvonne Ridley was captured by them talibans yeh?

did she become a muslim later?

yep shes on islam channel a lot

"Medievalist" wrote:

Yvonne Ridley was captured by them talibans yeh?

did she become a muslim later?

You can see her on Islam Channel.....but im afraid you can hear her voice

maybe i can switch on islam channel, put a cloth over the tv screen and put it on mute and then see what she has to say and watch her programme?

"Medievalist" wrote:

maybe i can switch on islam channel, put a cloth over the tv screen and put it on mute and then see what she has to say and watch her programme?

astigfirallah you shouldnt even be talkin bout Yvonne, shame on you!!

"Medievalist" wrote:

maybe i can switch on islam channel, put a cloth over the tv screen and put it on mute and then see what she has to say and watch her programme?

go ahead.

let us know what you learn.

O my word! cant even make a joke yeh without you lot going on the offensive.

I was trying to add a bit of humour to what you think of me, but seems to have backfired.

"Medievalist" wrote:

O my word! cant even make a joke yeh without you lot going on the offensive.

I was trying to add a bit of humour to what you think of me, but seems to have backfired.

Looks like the so called master of sarcasim doesnt even himself understand when sum1 else is being sarcy :roll:

"Medievalist" wrote:

O my word! cant even make a joke yeh without you lot going on the offensive.

I was trying to add a bit of humour to what you think of me, but seems to have backfired.

Or did it?

A smiley is not always needed.

They are a burden.

lol Yvonne Ridley is a classic case of Stockholm Syndrome.

She described Abu Hamza as a "sweet guy," I seriously call her sanity into question.

"Judda" wrote:

pardon my stupidity but whats "Stockholm Syndrome".

she sounds like a nutcase.

the retards "one of them"

in fact so is every1 in da forum

I reckon they hypnotised the women.

I can't understand y some girls support oppression 4 women :shock:

It's a psychological disorder in which a person due to extreme emotional stress and dependency on their captor for survival - becomes attached to their cause, or in some cases person.

The classic example is Patty Hearst who was captured by the Symbionese Liberation Army and ended up working for them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome

I don't think there will ever be any serious investigation into whether or not she has stockholm syndrome - she would never consent, and muslims would rightfully find it somewhat insulting.

However if you look at the total 180 she did and given the circumstances it's definitely conducive to Stockholm Syndrome.

Describing Hamza as a "sweet guy" is downright peculiar.

Hye, politeness is an extremely sought after virtue!

You will be surprised at how polie alot of Muslim scolars are.

Now if the dark side also uses this trait, they will still be polite, even when cursing people to death.

Huh?

Was that directed at me?

"Judda" wrote:

Admin I is not polite but I haven't got a black heart....

"Constantine" wrote:

I don't think there will ever be any serious investigation into whether or not she has stockholm syndrome - she would never consent, and muslims would rightfully find it somewhat insulting.

insulting?

wud u B offended if an athiest that got captured by the KKK and then later started working for them was taken to a phyciatrist?

only sum1 that supports them wud be offended.

2 b a muslim u CANNOT reject hadith and sunnah

but it is perfectly acceptable to reject gods book the koran..... THE BEST HADITH.... which god even described with his own attributes...

Well there is a possibility it could intimate that people who convert to Islam aren't right in the head.

Given the gravity of the situation is not so compelling to society as to warrant such a breach of her privacy and the embarassment it might cause to muslims it's better to leave it alone.

.... exactly how many marshmallows were in your lucky charms this morning?

haha - I hope somebody out there gets that.

Twas clever