Poll:Islam-West rift widens- Do you agree?
Posted on Tuesday, 22nd January 2008 @ 11:57pm
Islam-West rift widens, poll says
Most people in Muslim countries and the West believe divisions between them are worsening, a Gallup poll for the World Economic Forum (WEF) suggests.
The poll also suggested that most Europeans thought more interaction with Islam would be a threat - though most Americans disagreed.
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7200514.stm
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SO DO U AGREE THAT THE GAP BETWEEN ISLAM & THE WEST IS WIDENING & WORSENING OR ARE ISLAM & THE WEST CLOSER THAN EVER BEFORE?
DO MUSLIMS & NON MUSLIMS HAVE MORE IN COMMON OR MORE DIFFERENCES?
ARE MUSLIM & NON MUSLIMS COMPATIBLE TO EACH OTHER?
DO YOU GET ON WITH NON MUSLIMS IN THE UK & HOW DO THEY PERCEIVE YOU?
24 June 2005
12 hours 4 min
Am I "Islam" or am I "west"?
It’s a brand new day
And the sun is high
All the birds are singing
That you’re gonna die
21 November 2006
10 hours 39 min
You are You.
2∞&➔
28 October 2005
8 hours 5 min
I think muslims are too westernised if thats a word in the wrong ways some of us tend to think what would the west think of me? rather than what would allah swt think of me?
I think islam and the west are getting closer but the media publicity islam gets portrays the opposite picture. The media as we all know play a huge part in public opinion and this portrayal is inaccurate.
Indeed Allah and His angels send blessings on the Prophet; O People who Believe! Send blessings and abundant salutations upon him. Al ahzab [33,56]
4 April 2006
1 hour 20 min
Getting worse.
Way too many differences.
Nope.
Yah, very well actually.
MQI
Ya muqallib al Quloob, thabbit qalbee alaa deenik
O turner of the hearts, establish my heart upon your deen (Tirmidhi)
2 August 2007
18 hours 17 min
As far as I'm concerned you're another human being and an equal. If you want to identify as a Muslim also that's fine.
Those that define their neighbours in unpleasant terms, such as by referring demeaningly to "westerners" or "kafirs" as distinct from "Muslims" or vice versa, or, for that matter, "goyim" as distinct from "Jews", "whites" distinct from "muds, yids, pakis, niggers" etc, "believers" distinct from "unbelievers" or who distinguish themselves through any other such arrogant and offensive dichotomy, are a bunch of arseholes. We oughtn't mind distinguishing ourselves from a bunch of arseholes.
The past is an old armchair in the attic, the present an ominous ticking sound, and the future is anybody's guess.
James Thurber
2 August 2007
18 hours 17 min
So how is that possible?
The past is an old armchair in the attic, the present an ominous ticking sound, and the future is anybody's guess.
James Thurber
21 November 2006
10 hours 39 min
2∞&➔
2 August 2007
18 hours 17 min
Quality answer. Change a few personal details and I could say the same thing.
The past is an old armchair in the attic, the present an ominous ticking sound, and the future is anybody's guess.
James Thurber
24 June 2005
12 hours 4 min
You seen "Team America"? A certain speech comes to mind. (There are three types of people...)
I agree with most of what you said - the only ones that are opposites in that lists are "believers" and "unbelievers". The rest (even race) can co-exist in the same person and are in most cases there just to divide.
It’s a brand new day
And the sun is high
All the birds are singing
That you’re gonna die
4 April 2006
1 hour 20 min
oh, i mean yes. i had the west in mind when i said no.. i think.
MQI
Ya muqallib al Quloob, thabbit qalbee alaa deenik
O turner of the hearts, establish my heart upon your deen (Tirmidhi)
2 August 2007
18 hours 17 min
Respect, thanks for clarifying.
The past is an old armchair in the attic, the present an ominous ticking sound, and the future is anybody's guess.
James Thurber
21 November 2006
10 hours 39 min
that is truly a wonderful speech!
not repeatable on here, unfortunately...
2∞&➔
24 June 2005
12 hours 4 min
Yes that is unfortunate. We have gone too strict with moderating policies, but even in lax times that would be pushing it quite far.
It’s a brand new day
And the sun is high
All the birds are singing
That you’re gonna die
2 August 2007
18 hours 17 min
Um, thanks for reminding me. lol.
As for believers and unbelievers, the issue is not with the fact that the distinction is real, but with holding a grudge over it.
The past is an old armchair in the attic, the present an ominous ticking sound, and the future is anybody's guess.
James Thurber
24 June 2005
12 hours 4 min
oh. I agree fully then.
It’s a brand new day
And the sun is high
All the birds are singing
That you’re gonna die
7 January 2006
19 hours 18 min
Kaafirs news sources are lying again.
They always twists things to scare people.
West and Islam are not against each other. They are coming closer and closer.
I have no problem with western people. I was born in west. It is Allah's earth. We all live on it. Muslims and non-Muslims do have some issues but that does not mean most of us hate each other.
Most Muslims love non-Muslims and most non-Muslims love Muslims.
That is fact. Dont listen to propaganda on media. Kaafir evils news.
Ayatullah Khomeini rightly declared America as the Greatest Satan. www.tehrantimes.com
28 October 2005
8 hours 5 min
You do realise by calling someone kafir you risk the possibility of becoming one yourself?
Indeed Allah and His angels send blessings on the Prophet; O People who Believe! Send blessings and abundant salutations upon him. Al ahzab [33,56]
11 May 2006
11 hours 57 min
Unless they are a kafir.
24 June 2005
12 hours 4 min
@irfan/funzo: no need to go all PC. Too many people are already afraid of telling the truth.
If someone is clearly not a muslim, it is not an insult to say that. It is only the case of a munafiq -where someone claims to be a Muslim, claims to believe and act on the same principles but may not really do so that you have to be careful.
It’s a brand new day
And the sun is high
All the birds are singing
That you’re gonna die
28 October 2005
8 hours 5 min
I didnt say it was a done deelio, just simply saying there is the possibility of becoming one yourself.
Indeed Allah and His angels send blessings on the Prophet; O People who Believe! Send blessings and abundant salutations upon him. Al ahzab [33,56]
12 August 2006
12 weeks 3 days
Actually for once Funzo got a point, this really pious sufi women who came to give a talk here said.That if you called someone a kafir , and later that kafir "disbeliever" became a Muslim you would take their place as a disbeliever.
A rose protects its beauty with thorns..a woman protects hers with a veil
11 May 2006
11 hours 57 min
That doesn't make sense. Kafir literally means non-Muslim, and you are referring to the present time, not the future.
So if someone calls a non-Muslim a kafir, they are a kafir, that's a fact. If they however embrace Islam then you cannot call them a kafir anymore.
It's like let's not call a Muslim, Muslim, just incase they apostate and turn away from Islam so they are no longer a Muslim and are a kafir so by calling them a Muslim, I have wronged because I shouldn't have called them that because they are now are a kafir and not a Muslim so I should've just kept my big mouth shut and avoid using the word Muslim or kafir.
What I've heard is that, you shouldn't call a Muslim, whatever sin he might have or is committing a kafir, but I've never heard/read that you shouldn't call a kafir a kafir.
12 August 2006
12 weeks 3 days
no need to attack me, all i'm saying is what that sufi women said. What she said made sense ,
A rose protects its beauty with thorns..a woman protects hers with a veil
11 May 2006
11 hours 57 min
Not attacking you but it's just I've never heard that before.
12 August 2006
12 weeks 3 days
fair doose
A rose protects its beauty with thorns..a woman protects hers with a veil
21 November 2006
10 hours 39 min
no it didn't!
But MB is wrong, Kafir doesn't mean 'non-Muslim', in Arabic its more linked with notions such as pride, arrogance and actively rejecting the truth.
Good book is dictionary of the quran/quranic arabic. It describes in great detail the meanings and implications of certain words.
e.g. instead of 'Rahma = Mercy' (like in a standard translation) there is about 2 pages on the meaning of the word Rahma.
2∞&➔
11 May 2006
11 hours 57 min
Oh, I thought it meant non-Muslim = non believer.
21 November 2006
10 hours 39 min
Where is that definition from? An expert in Classical Arabic?
No, google.
2∞&➔
11 May 2006
11 hours 57 min
Ok, you win
12 August 2006
12 weeks 3 days
I'm sure I'm not making this up, but I remember at a talk Shaykh Hamza Yusuf saying that the word Kafir or some word with a similar pronunciation to that means farmer in Arabic.
A rose protects its beauty with thorns..a woman protects hers with a veil