Adultery is forbidden in Muslim countries and under Islamic sharia law, the penalty can range from flogging to stoning to death. The Koran says a 100 lashes for the men and women who commit adultery, some argue that they are symbolic lashes but most say they are severe lashes. Because of the number of times “God is merciful” is written in the Koran I am inclined to believe with the minority of Muslims that say the lashes are symbolic…
I’ve always disagreed with capital punishment, but I do believe it should only be reserved for murderers…
According to a Jewish mate of mine stoning to death for adultery was originally a Jewish tradition and it was copied by the Muslims, stoning women to death for adultery is not written in the Koran and I have NEVER come across it in a hadith, not even in the really weird, dodgy, weak ones. It is a cultural custom in most Muslim countries which is mistaken for a religious law.
I don’t believe all Jews follow the belief of stoning women to death for adultery but my mate is one of those really strict [and weird] Orthodox Jews and their beliefs are barbaric (if you ever go on one their sites you should see the stuff they say about Muslims :shock:). They are only a minority [i think]. Even though he is a weird Jew brought up to hate Muslims (you should hear the stuff his parents say maaan) he is still one of mi best mates and if we ever cuss each others religion, its nothing personal and we don’t see it as a big deal.
I do think he could be right to say that the Muslims copied it from the Jews, because retarded scholars in the past have used the bible to try and interpret the Koran coz interpreting the Koran is very difficult, even a professor in the Arabic language would find interpreting the Koran challenging. And there are a few other misconceptions about Islam and the root to the problems was ppl copying the beliefs of strict, weird Christian and Jewish sects, but I don’t want to go into that problem……yet.
Yesterday at Mosque I had this argument with mi imam about stoning to death for adultery. He claims it was ordered by God, yet he failed to give me any quotes to suggest this was true. I told him I reckon it was copied off a strict Jewish sect as told by mi Jewish mate. The freak said I should never talk to Jews and Christians because they are both friends with each other and will do everything they can to turn me against mi religion :roll: …. and he also said discussing Islam with me was like discussing it with the devil :roll:
So what do you guys think about stoning women to death for adultery. I wont insult you if you disagree with me coz I would hate stoop down to your level but if you do agree with stoning to death for adultery don’t forget to tell me how you would feel if it happened to you…
oh how true
The Lover is ever drunk with love;
He is free, he is mad,
He dances with ecstasy and delight.
Caught by our own thoughts,
We worry about every little thing,
But once we get drunk on that love,
Whatever will be, will be.
ɐɥɐɥ
Do u agree with stoning to death for adultery?
What you put in the hearts of others; is what goes back into your own heart…
why not?
After all Islam has made divorce very easy.
If you are not happy in marriage, you can divorce.
However you cannot ruin the sanctity of marriage.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
So u agree with stoning to death?
What you put in the hearts of others; is what goes back into your own heart…
I'd love to stone you to death
The Lover is ever drunk with love;
He is free, he is mad,
He dances with ecstasy and delight.
Caught by our own thoughts,
We worry about every little thing,
But once we get drunk on that love,
Whatever will be, will be.
ɐɥɐɥ
Lol
Mr. Admin do you really believe it is right?
What you put in the hearts of others; is what goes back into your own heart…
no it hasn't...
Saying "I divorce you" 3 times is not actully counted....
it totally contradicts the teachings of the Koran.
What you put in the hearts of others; is what goes back into your own heart…
Salaam
The following are ahadiths from Sahih Muslim. It is obvious from the ahadith below that stoning for adultery existed at the time of the Prophet (pbuh) and carried out by the Prophet (pbuh) himself. Islamic law is based on primarily Quran AND Sunnah:
[b]Chapter 3: PRESCRIBED PUNISHMENT FOR AN ADULTERER AND AN ADULTERESS [/b]
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Book 017, Number 4191:
'Ubada b. as-Samit reported: Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: Receive (teaching) from me, receive (teaching) from me. Allah has ordained a way for those (women). When an unmarried male commits adultery with an unmarried female (they should receive) one hundred lashes and banishment for one year. And in case of married male committing adultery with a married female, they shall receive one hundred lashes and be stoned to death.
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Book 017, Number 4192:
'Ubada b. as-Samit reported that whenever Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) received revelation, he felt its rigour and the complexion of his face changed. One day revelation descended upon him, he felt the same rigour. When it was over and he felt relief, he said: Take from me. Verily Allah has ordained a way for them (the women who commit fornication),: (When) a married man (commits adultery) with a married woman, and an unmarried male with an unmarried woman, then in case of married (persons) there is (a punishment) of one hundred lashes and then stoning (to death). And in case of unmarried persons, (the punishment) is one hundred lashes and exile for one year.
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Book 017, Number 4193:
This hadith has been reported on the authority of Qatada with the same chain of transmitters except with this variation that the unmarried is to be lashed and exiled, and the married one is to be lashed and stoned. There is neither any mention of one year nor that of one hundred.
[b]Chapter 4: STONING OF A MARRIED ADULTERER [/b]
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Book 017, Number 4194:
'Abdullah b. 'Abbas reported that 'Umar b. Khattab sat on the pulpit of Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) and said: Verily Allah sent Muhammad (may peace be upon him) with truth and He sent down the Book upon him, and the verse of stoning was included in what was sent down to him. We recited it, retained it in our memory and understood it. Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) awarded the punishment of stoning to death (to the married adulterer and adulteress) and, after him, we also awarded the punishment of stoning, I am afraid that with the lapse of time, the people (may forget it) and may say: We do not find the punishment of stoning in the Book of Allah, and thus go astray by abandoning this duty prescribed by Allah. Stoning is a duty laid down in Allah's Book for married men and women who commit adultery when proof is established, or it there is pregnancy, or a confession.
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Book 017, Number 4195:
This hadith has been narrated on the authority of Zuhri with the same chain of transmitters.
[b]
Chapter 5: HE WHO CONFESSES HIS GUILT OF ADULTERY [/b]
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Book 017, Number 4196:
Abu Huraira reported that a person from amongst the Muslims came to Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) while he was in the mosque. He called him saying: Allah's Messenger. I have committed adultery. He (the Holy Prophet) turned away from him, He (again) came round facing him and said to him: Allah's Messenger, I have committed adultery. He (the Holy Prophet) turned away until he did that four times, and as he testified four times against his own self, Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) called him and said: Are you mad? He said: No. He (again) said: Are you married? He said: Yes. Thereupon Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said: Take him and stone him. Ibn Shihab (one of the narrators) said: One who had heard Jabir b. 'Abdullah saying this informed me thus: I was one of those who stoned him. We stoned him at the place of prayer (either that of 'Id or a funeral). When the stones hurt him, he ran away. We caught him in the Harra and stoned him (to death). This hadith has been narrated through another chain of transmitters.
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Book 017, Number 4197:
This hadith has been narrated on the authority of Abu Huraira through other chains of transmitters.
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Book 017, Number 4198:
Jabir b. Samura reported: As he was being brought to Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) I saw Ma'iz b. Malik-a short-statured person with strong sinews, having no cloak around him. He bore witness against his own self four times that he had committed adultery, whereupon Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said: Perhaps (you kissed her or embraced her). He said: No. by God, one deviating (from the path of virtue) has committed adultery. He then got him stoned (to death), and then delivered the address: Behold, as we set out for Jihad in the cause of Allah, one of you lagged behind and shrieked like the bleating of a male goat, and gave a small quantity of milk. By Allah, in case I get hold of him, I shall certainly punish him.
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Book 017, Number 4199:
Jabir b. Samura reported that there was brought to Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) a short-statured person with thick uncombed hair, muscular body, having a mantle around him and he had committed adultery. He turned him away twice and then made pronouncement about him and he was stoned. Then Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said: We set out for Jihad in the cause of Allah and one of you lagged behind and shrieked like the bleating of a male goat and one of then (goats' gave a small quantity of milk. In case Allah gives me power over one of them, I will punish him (in such a way that it may have a deterrent effect upon others). In another narration transmitted on the authority of Sa'id b Jubair (the words are), that He (the Holy Prophet) turned him away four times."
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Book 017, Number 4200:
This hadith has been narrated on the authority of Jabir b. Samura through another chain of transmitters with the difference that along with the mentioning (of the fact) that he (the Holy Prophet) turned him away twice, or thrice.
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Book 017, Number 4201:
Ibn Abbas reported that Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) said to Ma'iz b. Malik: Is it true what has reached me about you? He said: What has reached you about me? He said: It has reached me that you have committed (adultery) with the slave-girl of so and so? He said: Yes. He (the narrator) said: He testified four times. He (the Holy Prophet) then made pronouncement about him and he was stoned (to death).
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Book 017, Number 4202:
Abu Sa'id reported that a person belonging to the clan of Aslam, who was called Ma, iz b. Malik, came to Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) and said: I have committed immorality (adultery), so inflict punishment upon me. Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) turned him away again and again. He then asked his people (about the state of his mind). They said: We do not know of any ailment of his except that he has committed something about which he thinks that he would not be able to relieve himself of its burden but with the Hadd being imposed upon him. He (Ma'iz) came back to Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) and he commanded us to stone him. We took him to the Baqi' al-Gharqad (the graveyard of Medina). We neither tied him nor dug any ditch for him. We attacked him with bones, with clods and pebbles. He ran away and we ran after him until he came upon the ston ground (al-Harra) and stopped there and we stoned him with heavy stones of the Harra until he became motionless (lie died). He (the Holy Prophet) then addressed (us) in the evening saying Whenever we set forth on an expedition in the cause of Allah, some one of those connected with us shrieked (under the pressure of sexual lust) as the bleating of a male goat. It is essential that if a person having committed such a deed is brought to me, I should punish him. He neither begged forgiveness for him nor cursed him.
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Book 017, Number 4203:
Dawud narrated the hadith with the same chain of transmitters (and the words are): Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) stood tip (to address the audience) in the evening and praised Allah, glorified Him and then said: What about the people, that as we set out on an expedition, one of you remained behind us and he shrieked like the bleating of a male goat? But he did not mention (these words): People connected with us."
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Book 017, Number 4204:
This hadith has been narrated on the authority of Dawud with the same chain of transmitters but with this variation that in the hadith narrated by Sufyan (the words are):" He made a confession of having committed adultery, thrice."
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Book 017, Number 4205:
Sulaiman b. Buraida reported on the authority of his father that Ma, iz b. Malik came to Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) and said to him: Messenger of Allah, purify me, whereupon he said: Woe be upon you, go back, ask forgiveness of Allah and turn to Him in repentance. He (the narrator) said that he went back not far, then came and said: Allah's Messenger, purify me. whereupon Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said: Woe be upon you, go back and ask forgiveness of Allah and turn to Him in repentance. He (the narrator) said that he went back not far, when he came and said: Allah's Messenger, purify me. Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) said as he had said before. When it was the fourth time, Allah's Messenger (may, peace be upon him) said: From what am I to purify you? He said: From adultery, Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) asked if he had been mad. He was informed that he was not mad. He said: Has he drunk wine? A person stood up and smelt his breath but noticed no smell of wine. Thereupon Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said: Have you committed adultery? He said: Yes. He made pronouncement about him and he was stoned to death. The people had been (divided) into two groups about him (Ma'iz). One of them said: He has been undone for his sins had encompassed him, whereas another said: There is no repentance more excellent than the repentance of Ma'iz, for he came to Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) and placing his hand in his (in the Holy Prophet's) hand said: Kill me with stones. (This controversy about Ma'iz) remained for two or three days. Then came Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) to them (his Companions) as they were sitting. He greeted them with salutation and then sat down and said: Ask forgiveness for Ma'iz b. Malik. They said: May Allah forgive Ma'iz b. Malik. Thereupon Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said: He (Ma'iz) has made such a repentance that if that were to be divided among a people, it would have been enough for all of them. He (the narrator) said: Then a woman of Ghamid, a branch of Azd, came to him and said: Messenger of of Allah, purify me, whereupon he said: Woe be upon you; go back and beg forgiveness from Allah and turn to Him in repentance. She said: I find that you intend to send me back as you sent back Ma'iz. b. Malik. He (the Holy, Prophet) said: What has happened to you? She said that she had become pregnant as a result of fornication. He (the Holy Prophet) said: Is it you (who has done that)? She said: Yes. He (the Holy Prophet) said to her: (You will not be punished) until you deliver what is there in your womb. One of the Ansar became responsible for her until she was delivered (of the child). He (that Ansari) came to Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) and said the woman of Ghamid has given birth to a child. He (the Holy Prophet) said: In that case we shall not stone her and so leave her infant with none to suckle him. One of the Ansar got up and said: Allah's Apostle, let the responsibility of his suckling be upon me. She was then stoned to death.
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Book 017, Number 4206:
'Abdullah b. Buraida reported on the authority of his father that Ma'iz b. Malik al-Aslami came to Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) and said: Allah's Messenger, I have wronged myself; I have committed adultery and I earnestly desire that you should purify me. He turned him away. On the following day, he (Ma'iz) again came to him and said: Allah's Messenger, I have committed adultery. Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) turned him away for the second time, and sent him to his people saying: Do you know if there is anything wrong with his mind. They denied of any such thing in him and said: We do not know him but as a wise good man among us, so far as we can judge. He (Ma'iz) came for the third time, and he (the Holy Prophet) sent him as he had done before. He asked about him and they informed him that there was nothing wrong with him or with his mind. When it was the fourth time, a ditch was dug for him and he (the Holy Prophet) pronounced judg- ment about him and he wis stoned. He (the narrator) said: There came to him (the Holy Prophet) a woman from Ghamid and said: Allah's Messenger, I have committed adultery, so purify me. He (the Holy Prophet) turned her away. On the following day she said: Allah's Messenger, Why do you turn me away? Perhaps, you turn me away as you turned away Ma'iz. By Allah, I have become pregnant. He said: Well, if you insist upon it, then go away until you give birth to (the child). When she was delivered she came with the child (wrapped) in a rag and said: Here is the child whom I have given birth to. He said: Go away and suckle him until you wean him. When she had weaned him, she came to him (the Holy Prophet) with the child who was holding a piece of bread in his hand. She said: Allah's Apostle, here is he as I have weaned him and he eats food. He (the Holy Prophet) entrusted the child to one of the Muslims and then pronounced punishment. And she was put in a ditch up to her chest and he commanded people and they stoned her. Khalid b Walid came forward with a stone which he flung at her head and there spurted blood on the face of Khalid and so he abused her. Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) heard his (Khalid's) curse that he had huried upon her. Thereupon he (the Holy Prophet) said: Khalid, be gentle. By Him in Whose Hand is my life, she has made such a repentance that even if a wrongful tax-collector were to repent, he would have been forgiven. Then giving command regarding her, he prayed over her and she was buried.
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Book 017, Number 4207:
Imran b. Husain reported that a woman from Juhaina came to Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) and she had become pregnant because of adultery. She said: Allah's Apostle, I have done something for which (prescribed punishment) must be imposed upon me, so impose that. Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) called her master and said: Treat her well, and when she delivers bring her to me. He did accordingly. Then Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) pronounced judgment about her and her clothes were tied around her and then he commanded and she was stoned to death. He then prayed over her (dead body). Thereupon Umar said to him: Allah's Apostle, you offer prayer for her, whereas she had committed adultery! Thereupon he said: She has made such a repentance that if it were to be divided among seventy men of Medina, it would be enough. Have you found any repentance better than this that she sacr ficed her life for Allah, the Majestic?
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Book 017, Number 4208:
This hadith has been transmitted on the authority of Yahya b. Abu Kathir.
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Book 017, Number 4209:
Abu Huraira and Zaid b Khalid al-Juhani reported that one of the desert tribes came to Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) and said: Messenger of Allah, I beg of you in the name of Allah that you pronounce judgment about me according to the Book of Allah. The second claimant who was wiser than him said: Well, decide amongst us according to the Book of Allah, but permit me (to say something). Thereupon Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon ham) said: Say. He said: My son was a servant in the house of this person and he committed adultery with his wife. I was informed that my son deserved stoning to death (as punishment for this offence). I gave one hundred goats and a slave girl as ransom for this. I asked the scholars (if this could serve as an expiation for this offence). They informed me that my son deserved one hundred lathes and exile for one year. and this woman deserved stoning (as she was married). Thereupon Allah's Messenger (may peace he upon him) said: By Him in Whose Hand is my life. I will decide between you according to the Book of Allah. The slave-girl and the goats should be given back, and your son is to be punished with one hundred lashes and exile for one year. And, O Unais (b. Zuhaq al-Aslami), go to this woman in the morning, and if she makes a confession, then stone her. He (the narrator) said: He went to her in the morning and she made a confession. And Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) made pronouncement about her and she was stoned to death.
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Book 017, Number 4210:
This hadith has been narrated on the authority of Zuhri with the same chain of transmitters.
Salam
Come on Boss, answer the question.
Jedda asked you again whether or not you agree with stoning a 16 year old girl to death.
He means that to make a girl stand in the open field and keep stoning her until she bleeds to death.
Do you agree with that type of punishment or dont you !!
Omrow
i agree with quran and sunnah, nothing more. if quran and sunnah allow it then so do i . if quran and sunnah dont then i dont.
simple as that- lets not bring logic or emotion in to it.
Do you question Quran and sunnah? I dont.
if im wrong then i'm wrong...all i was pointing out was that the abundance of hadith above makes it clear than stoning to death is what the Prophet(saw) ordered when it comes to adultery.
Do you not believe or accept the list of ahadith from Sahih Muslim?
I cant add anymore on that.
wasalaam
Any married person can get a divorce.
It IS as easy as saying I divorce you. Once will suffice if it is not canceled in the time limit.
The woman can also divorce. By returning the mahr, and askign the husband to divorce her, or going to court.
If a 16 year old is married, and commits adultery, then the punishment is the same, wether its a male, or female.
Remember for the main punishment, there need to be four actual and credible and believed eye witnesses to the act of adultery.
If the individual is so unhappy, get a divorce.
A 16 year old can get a divorce aswell. If she was force married, the marriage is not islamically accepted anyway, so no excuses.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
I is digusted! :x
What you put in the hearts of others; is what goes back into your own heart…
you would be cos you dont follow sunnah and reject hadith. You dont follow Islam. You follow another religion. Actually we're all disgusted with you. Poor brainwashed kid who follows a false religion.
Nah ur just making assumtions...
Haven't i told u not to judge mi by mi bother?????
What you put in the hearts of others; is what goes back into your own heart…
we just judge you by the rubbish you come out with
r u telling me this is not barbaric?
What you put in the hearts of others; is what goes back into your own heart…
Have u ever thought that islam may have been spread by the sword?
What you put in the hearts of others; is what goes back into your own heart…
so for you islam is backward and barbaric? Astagfirullah! Ask for forgiveness and find proper scholars....because at the moment only Allah (swt) knows if you are still a Muslim known. Many of your beliefs are acts of Kufr. To reject any part of Quran or Sunnah is act of Kufr.
have you ever thought you are brainwashed by the submitters and the media....and that you are off topic.
no i is only asking a Q.
What you put in the hearts of others; is what goes back into your own heart…
Do you think Islam was 'spread by the sword'?
Who told you this?
Mr Admin said Google was his friend....
I checked there....
I thought about it and mabey it is true :shock:
What you put in the hearts of others; is what goes back into your own heart…
when did i say islam was backwards? and whats wrong wid bilal philips?
What you put in the hearts of others; is what goes back into your own heart…
Yo Mr editor u have been on-line for ages answer mi Q
What you put in the hearts of others; is what goes back into your own heart…
i dont answer little, naieve, uneducated ,arrogant, perverted, misguided, trouble-making, loud mouth, waste of time 14 year old kids!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You insult islam time and time again
You deny hadith
you deny sunnah
you agree with a man who claims to be a messenger
you disagree with headscarfs for women
you deny hadith regarding stoning ot death
you call stoning to death barbaric
you accuse almost everyone on this forum of grave worshipping
you dont believe in the teachings of islam
you follow som eother teachings
so kid...i dont wanna waste my time on you...
do some homework or summat
play with some toys
watch some cartoons...
anything....but dont discuss things you know jack about
if you are serious, then learn your deen, dont get involved with debates which are beyond you.
I aint 'perverted'
Liar!!!!!!!!!!!
Other ppl have similar interpretations of the koran as him, u dont know arabic so u know fuck all
I never denied it I just don't like it :!:
They implore dead ppl, that is grave worshipping
Bullshit. Unlike u I understand the Koran...
What you put in the hearts of others; is what goes back into your own heart…
your language is definitely of the quran.
You have been sussed out!
I rest my case.
Good Bye
huh???
What you put in the hearts of others; is what goes back into your own heart…
well actually the submitters don't believe in headscarf, they believe saying it was decreed by God is shirk. When it comes to ppl telling u guys about comitting shirk the Submitters are the experts, they beat the whabis by far, according to mi bro everything i do is shirk :roll:
All I said was a headscarf or a niqab will NOT stop me from chatting up/eyeing up a girl, and i said some girls still look pretty with a headscarf on...
What you put in the hearts of others; is what goes back into your own heart…
I REALLY hope that was not from google, I have NEVER EVER read anything like that in the holy koran.... i REFUSE to follow it, it is pure evil.
Tell me where abouts in the koran it is written if it is actully written there, quite frankly it is disgusting and if i EVER read something like that in the holy koran or a in a popular hadith it would make me physically sick, i know in muslim countries it only ever happens to girls, but just imagine if u were a girl, tell me how u would feel if it happened to u....
The koran says a 100 lashes for adultery, no other punishment is mentioned :!: Check 4 ur self if u don't beleive me :!:
What you put in the hearts of others; is what goes back into your own heart…
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