Would You Work For The British Secret Services?

WOULD YOU WORK FOR THE BRITISH SECRET SERVICE?

Interesting article here:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7112190.stm

Its good money

You're helping your country

you're fighting the 'bad guys'

Whats wrong with that

Anyone convinved lol

ok may be the question i swhy dont Muslims join MI5 or MI6?

pls discuss...

TheRevivalEditor wrote:
WOULD YOU WORK FOR THE BRITISH SECRET SERVICE?

maybe I already do???

Winter is the Springtime of the Muslim. Because Allah (swt) has made the nights long for worship, and the days short for fasting!

never.

nft

i think spying on other Muslims is haram isn't it?

I'm not sure if it makes a difference what the context is.

Isn't it even haram to pretend you're someone else?

Winter is the Springtime of the Muslim. Because Allah (swt) has made the nights long for worship, and the days short for fasting!

You can help your country and fight the 'bad guys' without having to work for the MI5.. Personally, i dont think my conscience would let me.. i really dont like the idea of lying, deceiving and spying on anyone, Muslim or non-Muslim..

May Allah shine sweet faith upon you this day and times beyond. May your heart be enriched with peace, and may your home be blessed always. Ameen.

I would like to do that but i dislike the idea of lying and the secrecy, its totally against islam.

People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid.

Would I get a double "O"? and an Aston Martin?

For Queen and Country people, Queen and Country.

The enemy of my enemy is my... enemy.

Well you got a double zero at the begining of your iq they might give you that for your name to Laughing
as for the aston martin, well how does a second hand ford mondeo sound?

People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid.

A decent job, decent money, a place where you can make a difference.

Ofcourse id take it.

I can handle clouds, but cant fight with an eclipse.

What about the constant lying, spying on other muslims etc?

People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid.

Funzo wrote:
What about the constant lying, spying on other muslims etc?

What about it?

I can handle clouds, but cant fight with an eclipse.

Surely thats going against islam or your commiting sin for it.

People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid.

I absolutely love spooks, so if it’s anything like that, then of course I’d take the job!

Well you obviously wouldnt start off like that; the idea is pretty cool but the things that come with can be drawbacks.

People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid.

Funzo wrote:
Surely thats going against islam or your commiting sin for it.

Its better to be in a position where you can make a difference and save many. Than it is to remain ignorant and powerless. Without power your no use to anyone.

I can handle clouds, but cant fight with an eclipse.

Funzo wrote:
the idea is pretty cool but the things that come with can be drawbacks.

That can be said for pretty much everything. If you've got the skills etc, I don't see why you can't work from the top.

Then why not go in politics? or even a normal police officer?

People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid.

Funzo wrote:
Then why not go in politics? or even a normal police officer?

Because that may not interest you, duh.

Funzo wrote:
Then why not go in politics? or even a normal police officer?

Politics is a dirty game and i dont want to get into it.

the police are a mere tool... nothing more than grunts. My asperations are a little higher.

I can handle clouds, but cant fight with an eclipse.

Noor wrote:
Funzo wrote:
the idea is pretty cool but the things that come with can be drawbacks.

That can be said for pretty much everything. If you've got the skills etc, I don't see why you can't work from the top.

People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid.

Seraphim wrote:
Funzo wrote:
Then why not go in politics? or even a normal police officer?

Politics is a dirty game and i dont want to get into it.

the police are a mere tool... nothing more than grunts. My asperations are a little higher.

Wouldnt be a m15 agent a dirty game too?

People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid.

Funzo wrote:
Seraphim wrote:
Funzo wrote:
Then why not go in politics? or even a normal police officer?

Politics is a dirty game and i dont want to get into it.

the police are a mere tool... nothing more than grunts. My asperations are a little higher.

Wouldnt be a m15 agent a dirty game too?

The lines are more clearly drawn.

I can handle clouds, but cant fight with an eclipse.

Look i dont want this to sound rude but your starting to talk utter rubbish, lines are more clearly drawn?

People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid.

Funzo wrote:
Look i dont want this to sound rude but your starting to talk utter rubbish, lines are more clearly drawn?

let me put it more simpler.

its a less dirty game than politics.

Thats all you need to know.

I can handle clouds, but cant fight with an eclipse.

Can I ask for a reference for where it says we are not allowed to spy on Muslims? (and Muslims only.)

I have heard this a lot ("But you will spy on a Muslims..."), but have no idea where it is founded from. I would have assumed that the first bit was the problem, not the second.

I guess what I am asking is why is it worse to spy on Muslims than Non-Muslims.

The enemy of my enemy is my... enemy.

Seraphim wrote:
Funzo wrote:
Look i dont want this to sound rude but your starting to talk utter rubbish, lines are more clearly drawn?

let me put it more simpler.

its a less dirty game than politics.

Thats all you need to know.

You think im slow? i dont understand? i understood alright, think about it, it doesnt matter if its dirtier or not. I do take into account there isnt an easy way into politics where m15 agent for asians is pretty easy. If i research this and see that islam does approve of this i might take it up.

People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid.

You wrote:
Can I ask for a reference for where it says we are not allowed to spy on Muslims? (and Muslims only.)

I have heard this a lot ("But you will spy on a Muslims..."), but have no idea where it is founded from. I would have assumed that the first bit was the problem, not the second.

I guess what I am asking is why is it worse to spy on Muslims than Non-Muslims.

O you who believe, you shall avoid any suspicion, for even a little bit of suspicion is sinful. You shall not spy on one another, nor shall you backbite one another; this is as abominable as eating the flesh of your dead brother. 49:12

Funzo wrote:
Seraphim wrote:
Funzo wrote:
Look i dont want this to sound rude but your starting to talk utter rubbish, lines are more clearly drawn?

let me put it more simpler.

its a less dirty game than politics.

Thats all you need to know.

You think im slow? i dont understand? i understood alright, think about it, it doesnt matter if its dirtier or not. I do take into account there isnt an easy way into politics where m15 agent for asians is pretty easy. If i research this and see that islam does approve of this i might take it up.

You think getting into mi5 is easier? Laughing

You're right... your not slow. Your just not moving at all.

I grow tired of this.

I can handle clouds, but cant fight with an eclipse.

Well the level of influence in politics; a local councillor isnt really going to change nation wide views is he? Where as the m15 can help by preventing crimes on a large scale. So it probably is easier compared to a high authority politcal job compared to a low m15 job.

People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid.

You think Mi5 is considered to be a 'low job'? Laughing

Tune into Spooks tomorrow, BBC 1, 9pm sharp Wink

I didnt say it was a low job; i said a low level in m15, you cant get right at the top level straight away like in spooks can you now.

People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid.