7cgen - who are they?
Posted on Saturday, 8th September 2007 @ 12:43pm
And why are they called that?
It is supposed to be "seventh century generation Muslims" or something. No idea where the seventh century bit came from.
They have a website (its in showkat's signature which really do struggle to navigate), even an official video!
And someone has suggested to me that we have lost a lot of posters to them.
24 June 2005
10 hours 18 min
Showkat is a HT member. Alot of people on the 7gen forum have HT avatars.
It could, could, be a HT front.
24 June 2005
11 min 48 sec
And how have they got their name? 7th century generation? what is that?
(if we are following Islamic years, we would be in the 15th would we not?)
Yarr!
24 June 2005
10 hours 18 min
It's a symptom of the fact that extremism/radicalism among Western Muslims is a modern phenomenon driven almost wholly by issues around the identity and integration of the children of immigrants.
The name "Seventh Century Generation" purports to be a reflection of the first generation of Muslims from the time of the Prophet
. However, that generation lived in the 7th century according only to the Western Christian calendar.
If the 7cgen website was "Islamic" it would have taken account of the Islamic calendar. But because it has been created by people caught up in the identity politics of 20/21st century Western Europe it subconsciously defines itself in those terms.
11 October 2006
12 weeks 1 day
The majority of people on that forum have no group affiliation.
7cgen.com is an Islamic forum where the rules of Islam especially adhaab are strictly maintained.
People will always join a forum which is Islamic by nature and not just by name where great discussions take place in a warm and brotherly atmosphere free from name calling and insults.
7cgen.com, the place to be
24 June 2005
6 days 21 hours
Seems they've created a thread about us discussing them, discussing us.... etc:
http://www.7cgen.com/index.php?showtopic=15065
I can handle clouds, but cant fight with an eclipse.
24 June 2005
10 hours 18 min
We should have a thread discussing their thread about our thread about them.
BTW Salaam people from the 7th Century. If you have questions about our forum don't hesitate to sign up and ask.
No you didn't. I asked you some qs which you still haven't answered.
Oh and I don't dislike you. What gave you that idea? If I created a thread in your style it's to honour you, not mock you.
26 June 2005
13 weeks 5 days
I think its a great community mashAllah.. got some very intelligent brothers on there.
I wouldn't say its a HT only site tho.
Tell you why I haven't been posting there much Showkat, every single time I go on there, I'm there for ages going through the discussions..
There is a very strong sense on of unity on that board, and I agree from what I've seen adhaab is strictly maintained on there.
Round and round the Ka'bah,
Like a good Sahabah,
One step, Two step,
All the way to jannah
8 September 2007
1 year 10 weeks
Assalamu Alaikum, what's the purpose of this thread?
BarakAllahu Feek
8 September 2007
1 year 10 weeks
salam people
just joined the forum and i totally love the revival magazines
anywayz i thought id ask:
what do you think of 7CGEN ? have any of you heard any of Blak-stone's albums ?
24 June 2005
11 min 48 sec
I had never heard of them before too long ago. I still did not pay attention in the "learn who people are" class, so I thought I will take a short cut, and just ask.
I am not too bothered that people have moved on from here. That is their prerogative.
This topic is not meant to slander anyone in any way.
PS I don't think it is enough to cast doubt on anyone solely based on their affiliations. (and who decides what is a *good* affiliation? We can all only talk about ourselves).
To those reading from across the trenches, I have no intention to cause trouble. I was just curious.
and if you wanna cross the trench, we will welcome you will open arms. But be aware that personally I am on the side of less moderating comments (other Mods disagree though).
This forum - the members make it what it is. Want a little rioting? well, it will be your job to get a response. Want it to remain mellow and chilled out, well just join in in all the peaceable topics.
Yarr!
24 June 2005
11 min 48 sec
I still have no idea.
However, now I DO know where the name comes from. That is a WIN I'd say.
Who/what is BLAK-stone?
Yarr!
2 August 2007
19 hours 55 min
I suggested that posters from this forum have followed the link there in Showkat's signature and his threads, which I find insidious, especially given that he posts them all over a variety of forums amounting to a campaign. I also find it depressing to find that people with whom I have both agreed and disagreed have shifted over to a forum that encourages far more radical political views and allegiances, whereas this forum even welcomes the opinions of Jews and Christians and doesn't reject moderate politics. Being a forum, they can of course claim to have no overwhelming stance or ideology, a claim that would be undermined by the content and general acceptance of views such as Showkat's - ie the west conspires against Islam and the answer is a khilafah. Within that narrow lens there is of course some room for debate as to how to accomplish this and whether, for instance, Osama bin Laden should be the leader.
The past is an old armchair in the attic, the present an ominous ticking sound, and the future is anybody's guess.
James Thurber
26 June 2005
13 weeks 5 days
Whats this about stealing members. Lets be sensible now. I've had a few members off this site join my site as well.
As for welcoming the points of views of non-muslims, I think there are some great pieces of dialogue on 7CGEN. You guys should read some.
But Admin, way i see it, if you want to find about a community, you don't go and ask people who dont have a clue, you ask the community direct. Its like if you wanted to find out about Christians you wouldn't go upto a Jew would you? I say lets keep the unity, we're all Muslim brothers, Sign up on 7CGEN, ask any questions you have.
Round and round the Ka'bah,
Like a good Sahabah,
One step, Two step,
All the way to jannah
5 February 2006
13 weeks 6 days
I don't know whether this is referring to me or not, but one thing i can say, just merely being a member of a particular forum, doesn't mean that member agrees with everything being discussed on that forum.
This is Mr Honey/100 man right?One thing i rate you for is never giving up on a discussion, i know there were several discussions going on, on the revival and you may have not agreed with everything, but that didn't stop you from trying to convince people of your views/ideas, and you would battle your view out right till the end, and that's one thing i liked/like about you.
If you feel your beliefs/views are under attack, then maybe you can post your views etc so people can see the other side of the argument too. I know i for one, appreciate all your views and comments and i understand it takes a lot of time and effort and may even get frustrating at times.
Anyways, hope everyone is doing good here.
O you who believe, If you help (in the cause of) Allah, He will help you, and make your foothold firm {Surah Muhammad7}
8 September 2007
1 year 10 weeks
Blak-Stone is an Islamic hip hop/rap band. All their rap songs are about Islam and politics. After the release of their first album Dark Dayz they got some media attention and have appeared on 2 interviews, one of them conducted by the British Islam Channel. Blak-Stone are a band that want to spread their message through music to the youth because most of the youth around the world listen to music so they thought of music as an idea to spread their message across about Islam and the politics surrounding the world.
they have also released a second album called "palestine the album"..all the money raised from this album goes to interpal (100% of it ! mashallah, alhamdullillah)
the members of this group are:
Waleed Gubara (WG), AWAW, DPZ, J-Key
wasalam
24 June 2005
11 min 48 sec
Any samples of their work? What are their distribution policies? (creative commons? copyleft? public domain or normal copyright? (if you don't know, it is no problem. This is something for a side project))
@Khan - I am not worried about where people go. Others may be because they would not dare to follow. That is not something anyone can control, or try to IMO.
Yarr!
8 September 2007
1 year 10 weeks
recently the album "dark dayz" has been avalable at the forum for "free download" i would give you the link but the download link is currently down
im not too sure about copyright though, ill try to find out
wasalam
21 November 2006
3 hours 21 min
hey! their smiley's are better than ours....
and someone COMPLETELY misunderstood Beast's joke post that took the mick out of Showkat's endless lists of 'dilemmas' etc.
but then again many people on this message board did too...
it REALLY dismays me to think that SO many Muslims didn't realise that Beast was joking, i worry about what opinions they have about 'evil kafir ways of life etc' (i.e. my family etc).
2∞&➔
21 November 2006
3 hours 21 min
if you believe a poll on their website 25% of them agree with the 9/11 bombers
i like stirring
2∞&➔
24 June 2005
11 min 48 sec
25% of what? 5 people? 10? not really getting the full view.
9/11 should be laid to rest. It is now not much more than a historical fact that is used to gain readership/emotional attachment.
Yarr!
21 November 2006
3 hours 21 min
2∞&➔
24 June 2005
11 min 48 sec
I read that. I ignored it. Or before I got that far. I think it was the former.
Yarr!
8 September 2007
1 year 10 weeks
look again
come on bro, its not even an accurate figure since not everyone in the forum votes
yeah i agree it should be laid to rest, just like dianaz car crash
wasalam
10 September 2007
1 year 10 weeks
What's up cool kids? Don't you guys just hate fundamentalist terroristic extremists? Why do those types of Moslems live in caves. Eww!
24 June 2005
11 min 48 sec
Carpeting could be a major issue IMO.
Yarr!