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That sounds like a shopping list
Islam is the Key to paradise but without practice it won't open the gates.
Nice.
[size=10]I feel I'm gonna move on back down south
you know where the water tastes like cherry wine[/size]
May Allah curse the Israelites
And since that's your attitude you needn't be playing victim, or representing the Palestinians that way. Israelite and Israeli being two different things, you are starting out with prejudice rather than responding with truth.
[size=10]I feel I'm gonna move on back down south
you know where the water tastes like cherry wine[/size]
Soldiers don't get "kidnapped", they get captured. The Israelis have been very clever to label it as a kidnapping, as if their soldiers were going out for a leisurely walk and were abducted.
Media Coverage:
[url=http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&lr=&rls=ITVA,ITVA:2006-24,ITVA:en&ct=t... Approves Wave of Lebanon Air Strikes ...[/url]
Collective punishment = pure evil
Captured human capital in return for demands being met = kidnapped hostages.
[size=10]I feel I'm gonna move on back down south
you know where the water tastes like cherry wine[/size]
Using the term "Israelites" in such a context is anti-Semitic.
Keep it to the IDF or Israeli gov. This way you wont be being anti-Semitic but criticising the actions of the Israeli gov and IDF.
It’s ironic the Israelites, Israeli past and presence governments, IDF, all those filthy serpents have taken on all the traits of the Nazi
Amazing that the world doesn’t know of daily human right abuses handed out to the Palestinians by the Nazi disguised in IDF uniforms- call them terrorist, IDF= the army of Shaytan
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3275195,00.html
The Israelis and Palestinians are at a tipping point in this conflict, and the roadmap is all but dead, the world needs to get involved again like with the Oslo accords and force a more serious settlement again.
So far the Israelis have bombed:
A power station,
Several towns,
and Airport
and a [url=http://www.cnn.com/]Highway[/url] filled with civilians fleeing the bombing of their town.
How is that defensible?! These are blatant warcimes with the excuse of rescuing soldiers as pretexts to just do whatever!
I can't believe the world is letting this happen with their silent commentary on the sideline
International community are impotent.
Only USA can do anything to stop this mess, no other nation or group of nations will have any real effect on what Israel is doing.
I’m not holding my breath for them to act. Bush looked like a rabbit trapped in the headlights last night. Shocked, dazed and unable to move.
No Dave, as the post above shows, the Israeli view is not getting into all these BBC articles. If you attack me and mine, Dave, I will do absolutely whatever is necessary to stop that, and that is how your list is defensible. Indefensible is the Hamas, Hizbollah, Syria and Iran escalating matters from afar and everyone making out that Israel is stoking the flames. Today dozens more Israelis were injured and killed by rockets fired at Israel, and the BBC won't mention it. What the hell do you expect?
I will be really clear: If the hostages are released, Israel calls off its offensive. If the hostages are not released and more rockets are fired, Israel will intensify both its defensive and offensive actions.
[size=10]I feel I'm gonna move on back down south
you know where the water tastes like cherry wine[/size]
How do you know what will happen?
I'm guessing it will end with a prisoner exchange.
It certainly won't end with Hezbollah giving up the prisoners for nothing or their rescue by Israel or the Lebanese army.
If the Palestinians release their hostages, the Israelis will call off the offensive. There are no other conditions. If the international community or America can arrange it, good. I doubt they can.
I have told you the Israeli policy, consistent with pretty much all comment from right, left and centre. Hamas took hostages. For this they will not receive any reward. For now I have to go. Shabbat Shalom to everybody.
[size=10]I feel I'm gonna move on back down south
you know where the water tastes like cherry wine[/size]
I assume you meant "Hezbollah took hostages".
Really?
http://www.israelnewsagency.com/idfisraelfuneral10052.html
If the Israelis stop blitzing the hell out of Lebanon and Gaza and release the women and children they hold in their jails/dungeons then the chances for peace would increase.
Israel’s brutal collective revenge on innocent civilians is despicable.
How many more dead Arabs before Israel’s blood lust is sedated?
US Government are cowards.
Lebanon have been more than patient, it's about time....
Fascist state has no limit to its brutality all derived from Talmud bible- Zionist wish to expand it’s current boarders and thus plant the seeds of another generation wishing destruction on Israel.
Israel is bombing the whole country and they expect Lebanon not to defend itself.
The Israeli government is more stupid than I thought.
[color=blue][b]Deadly Hezbollah attack on Haifa[/b][/color]
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Rockets fired by Hezbollah militants in Lebanon have killed at least nine people and wounded dozens of others in the coastal Israeli city of Haifa.
Meanwhile, Israeli jets have hit targets in the south of the Lebanese capital Beirut, including Hezbollah's al-Manar TV and a power station.
At least 100 Lebanese, most of them civilians, have been killed in five days of Israeli air strikes.
The Israeli air raids began after Hezbollah seized two Israeli soldiers.[/color]
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Cars abandoned[/b][/color]
[color=indigo]The rocket attack on Haifa is the worst attack on Israel since hostilities with Lebanon broke out, and Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert has warned it could have "far-reaching consequences".
"Our government is determined to do everything necessary to reach our objectives. Nothing will prevent us," Mr Olmert said.
It is the second time Haifa has been hit by Hezbollah rockets in recent days.
In a first salvo at least 13 rockets were reported to have landed in the city. The majority of those killed and injured were at a train station which was hit.
According to Israel Radio a second wave of four rockets then hit, one landing in city street. People driving on the roads in Haifa reportedly abandoned their cars as they fled from the onslaught.
The BBC's Bethany Bell in Jerusalem says that until now it had been thought that towns like Haifa, which is some 30km (19 miles) south of the Lebanese border and, Tiberias, on the Sea of Galilee, which was attacked on Saturday, had been out of range of Hezbollah's rockets.
More than 400 rockets have been fired into Israel by Hezbollah since Wednesday and, with the rockets penetrating ever further into the country, Israelis living all the way south to Tel Aviv have now been told to be on the alert, says the BBC's Mike Wooldridge in Jerusalem.
The militant group has claimed responsibility for the attack, saying it was retaliation for the deaths of Lebanese civilians and the destruction of the country's infrastructure during the Israeli air raids.[/color]
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[color=blue]TV appeal[/color]
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The BBC's Ian Pannell in Beirut says that there have already been a number of Israeli air strikes against Lebanese targets on Sunday. In the southern suburbs of Beirut, Hezbollah's al-Manar TV was attacked.
The station's Foreign Editor Ibrahim al-Moussawai said that staff there had now taken precautions to move keep their new broadcasting location from the Israelis.
A major power station in Beirut was also attacked. Our correspondent in the city says that the fire engines sent to put out the burning power station ran out of water and there was an appeal on Lebanese TV for local people to go and assist.
There was also a raid in the eastern city of Baalbek, where local Hezbollah leaders were believed to have gathered.
Foreign nationals have been leaving Lebanon to escape the violence. Our correspondent says that at first they were joined by a small number of locals who opted to stay with relatives in areas that were not being targeted or cross the border into Syria.[/color]
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[color=blue]City exodus[/color][/b]
[color=indigo]As the violence has escalated the number of locals attempting to flee has grown, but with the Israelis targeting the border areas and nearby roads, this has become increasingly difficult. On Saturday, Lebanon's Prime Minister Fouad Siniora made an emotional appeal for a UN-supervised ceasefire to end the Israeli raids.
However, the current president of the UN Security Council, French ambassador Jean-Marc de La Sabliere, said there would be "no agreement tonight" on a truce statement following a closed-door session late on Saturday.
Lebanese diplomats blamed the US for blocking the ceasefire move.
Lebanese representative Nouhad Mahmoud said he was "very disappointed" and that this would "send a very wrong signal not only to the Lebanese people, but to Arab people".[/color]
[url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5184428.stm][b]BBC News[/b][/url]
[b][color=DeepPink]O you who believe, If you help (in the cause of) Allah, He will help you, and make your foothold firm[/color][color=DeepSkyBlue] {Surah Muhammad7}[/color][/b]
ALLAHummunsur ikhwaananal Mujahideen fee sabilika fee kulli makaan.
ALLAHummunsurhum ala adduwika wa adduwihim.
Oh ALLAH assist our Mujahideen Brothers in Your Path in all places.
Oh ALLAH assist them against Your enemies and their enemies.
ameen.
Beautiful dua.
Ya ALLAH Madad.
Haq Chaar Yaar
Some canadians were just killed... you can't even flee Lebanon now
Yup, 8 Canadians.
The roads leaving it have been destroyed. So has the airport. And there is a sea blockade.
All to free two soldiers.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
I doubt that. I suspect this has more to do with the ego of Olmert than anything else - he's a brand new Prime Minister out of nowhere and he needs to show he's not weak.
I expect as much from this area of the world honestly - they all hate each other and the only thing keeping them from killing each other off is the fact we'd shun them forever or intervene.
But oh wait... we're not intervening - why shouldn't Israel attack everyone in the area, they can, they want to - and nobody is going to stop them.
It's total insanity - this is the world's fault for not doing anything.
As I understand it (probably not very clearly):
Syria nurtures Hizbullah in Lebanon against the desires of The Lebanese people. The Lebanese want Hizbullah to leave their country or make South Lebanon their independant state. Israel would take on Syria as punishment for Hizbullah's Rockets/attacks but they aren't strong enough. They would get wasted so instead they attack South Lebanon to try and get hits on Hizbullah as much as possible. They would prefer not to hit Lebanon but have to make some sort of hit so Hizbullah can take some form of punishment.
Anyone else praying for peace?
Gentleness and kindness were never a part of anything except that it made it beautiful, and harshness was never a part of anything except that it made it ugly.
Through cheating, stealing, and lying, one may get required results but finally one becomes
I'll pray for peace but I doubt it will ever happen, God loves us enough to let us chart our own way even into horrendous mistakes.
It's not God we need to count on, it's us.
Something like 40% of lebanon is shi'a - the hizbullah party has the biggest party in the lebanese government. To try and cut them off from the people of lebanon is not true based on the facts.
Ya ALLAH Madad.
Haq Chaar Yaar
That's not right. What are your sources? Your sources must be really compromised if that's what they're telling you. Israel is invariably the aggressor - if anyone tells you any diferent they are misinformed, biased or just plain lying.
Hizbullah started out after Israel invaded Lebanon during the 1980s.
The Lebanese don't want Hezbollah to leave. Hezbollah [i]are[/i] Lebanese. They started out as a resistence movement and are now a legitimate political party.
Hezbollah probably does get some funding from Iran and Syria. But that doesn't make them an arms of Iran or Syria. Iran and Syria are united by their enmity towards Israel. Otherwise they'd have nothing to do with each other.
Israel is a heavily militarised state. It would whoop Syria's behind in a war. It's Syria that is afraid of Israel - not the other way around.
Israel is the only country in the region with nukes. That's why it doesn't want Iran to get it's own nukes. Israel is trying tp pressure the US into a war on Iran for this reason. That's why we are hearing Iran being mentioned so often in the reporting on the current crisis.
The Israelis don't mind attacking Lebanon - they've done it many many times in the past. (Read [url=http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/0192801309/202-8089234-4119055?v=glan... the Nation[/url].) If they were really trying to target Hezbollah, they wouldn't have hit an airport, a village, power stations and apartment blocks. What have 8 Canadians got to do with Hezbollah?
Anything fired into Israel is nowhere near as powerful as the missiles Israel fires into Lebanon and Palestine. Further, rockets that are fired into Israel rarely hit any real targets - they are imprecise and many get fired into open fields. Israel's missiles invariably destroy lives, homes, and infastructure - and they're supposed to be precision strikes.
Get new sources for your info. Start with these:
http://electronicintifada.net/new.shtml
http://www.jkcook.net/
http://www.juancole.com/
http://www.chomsky.info/
http://www.hrw.org/doc/?t=mideast
http://www.btselem.org/English/index.asp
http://www.normanfinkelstein.com/
http://www.imemc.org/
Beast,
"Your sources must be really compromised if that's what they're telling you. Israel is invariably the aggressor - if anyone tells you any diferent they are misinformed, biased or just plain lying."
I suggest having seen your sources that they are as partisan as mine, and the above statement certainly is. I find your post jaundiced in the extreme, not least your reading of the relationship between Hizbullah, Iran and Syria.
Med,
Christians make up about 40% of Lebanon, Shia 30%, Sunni 20%, Druze 5%, Alawi 1% and other religions 4%. It is clearly incorrect that most of the population is Shia and pro-Hizbullah.
What Dawud wrote reflects my understanding also.
This is presently all I have time for and I'll be substantial tomorrow.
[size=10]I feel I'm gonna move on back down south
you know where the water tastes like cherry wine[/size]
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