Taj Mahal

Anyone seen the taj mahal?

Whats its full history, what do you think about it.

Do you think it was a waste of money, an empty gesture or is it full of meaning?

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Taj Mahal stands on the bank of River Yamuna, which otherwise serves as a wide moat defending the Great Red Fort of Agra, the center of the Mughal emperors until they moved their capital to Delhi in 1637. It was built by the fifth Mughal emperor, Shah Jahan in 1631 in memory of his second wife, Mumtaz Mahal, a Muslim Persian princess. She died while accompanying her husband in Burhanpur in a campaign to crush a rebellion after giving birth to their 14th child. The death so crushed the emperor that all his hair and beard were said to have grown snow white in a few months.

When Mumtaz Mahal was still alive, she extracted four promises from the emperor: first, that he build the Taj; second, that he should marry again; third, that he be kind to their children; and fourth, that he visit the tomb on her death anniversary. He kept the first and second promises. Construction began in 1631 and was completed in 22 years. Twenty thousand people were deployed to work on it. The material was brought in from all over India and central Asia and it took a fleet of 1000 elephants to transport it to the site. It was designed by the Iranian architect Ustad Isa and it is best appreciated when the architecture and its adornments are linked to the passion that inspired it. It is a "symbol of eternal love".

'tis a beauty indeed

The Lover is ever drunk with love;
He is free, he is mad,
He dances with ecstasy and delight.

Caught by our own thoughts,
We worry about every little thing,
But once we get drunk on that love,
Whatever will be, will be.

ɐɥɐɥ

"Med" wrote:
Anyone seen the taj mahal?

Whats its full history, what do you think about it.

Do you think it was a waste of money, an empty gesture or is it full of meaning?

I haven't seen it, but thing thats most common about is that it is a symbol of love for shah Jahan for his wife, the story that I have heard is that, Shah Jahan got the palace built as a symbol of love for his wife (I think thats where she is buried now) and once Taj Mahal was made he cut the hand of the person who made it/or designed it so that that person could never make such a thing again (don't know how true this).

I don't know about the waste of money, but it looks beautiful and I guess when you think of love Taj Mahal does come ones mind.

THROUGH LOVE all that is bitter will be sweet.
Through Love all that is copper will be gold.
Through Love all dregs will turn to purest wine.
Through Love all pain will turn to medicine.
Through Love the king will turn into a slave!

interesting post med

THROUGH LOVE all that is bitter will be sweet.
Through Love all that is copper will be gold.
Through Love all dregs will turn to purest wine.
Through Love all pain will turn to medicine.
Through Love the king will turn into a slave!

"Amber" wrote:
and once Taj Mahal was made he cut the hand of the person who made it/or designed it so that that person could never make such a thing again (don't know how true this).

I heard something similar, except I heard that Emperor ShahJahan had the hands of ALL the artisans cut off so they couldnt build anything remotely similar to it.

Having said that, I also read somewhere that Shah Jahan intended Taj Mahal as Mumtaz Mahal's tomb, and that opposite it there was to be built his own tomb. Her tomb was to be white marble, and his in black. If that was the case then I dont see how or why the artisans would have their hands chopped before completing the second tomb. It is noteworthy that Shah Jahan was imprisoned before his own tomb could be built. So Im inclined to think the handchopping is a bit of a fable.

Ya ALLAH Madad.
Haq Chaar Yaar

"Med" wrote:
Anyone seen the taj mahal?

Whats its full history, what do you think about it.

Do you think it was a waste of money, an empty gesture or is it full of meaning?

Quote:
Taj Mahal stands on the bank of River Yamuna, which otherwise serves as a wide moat defending the Great Red Fort of Agra, the center of the Mughal emperors until they moved their capital to Delhi in 1637. It was built by the fifth Mughal emperor, Shah Jahan in 1631 in memory of his second wife, Mumtaz Mahal, a Muslim Persian princess. She died while accompanying her husband in Burhanpur in a campaign to crush a rebellion after giving birth to their 14th child. The death so crushed the emperor that all his hair and beard were said to have grown snow white in a few months.

When Mumtaz Mahal was still alive, she extracted four promises from the emperor: first, that he build the Taj; second, that he should marry again; third, that he be kind to their children; and fourth, that he visit the tomb on her death anniversary. He kept the first and second promises. Construction began in 1631 and was completed in 22 years. Twenty thousand people were deployed to work on it. The material was brought in from all over India and central Asia and it took a fleet of 1000 elephants to transport it to the site. It was designed by the Iranian architect Ustad Isa and it is best appreciated when the architecture and its adornments are linked to the passion that inspired it. It is a "symbol of eternal love".

Not a waste of money at all, he loved her.

...a little concerned he only kept promises one and two though, not visiting every year is a little shallow but not being kind to their children is a little... oh what's the word...

unparentlike?

What happened to em?!

heard enuf folk tales about taj mahal....dunno whats true what aint,

all i can say tiz a beautiful palace....wouldnt mind visiting such a beauty!

"Constantine" wrote:

What happened to em?!

I dunno. Mughal history is literally littered with family feuding and family struggles for power.

Even Aurangzeb Alamgir, the great saint Emperor, imprisoned his heretic father and had to deal with his pampered brothers.

Ya ALLAH Madad.
Haq Chaar Yaar

"Med" wrote:
I dunno. Mughal history is literally littered with family feuding and family struggles for power.

Even Aurangzeb Alamgir, the great saint Emperor, imprisoned his heretic father and had to deal with his pampered brothers.

Isn't that what happened in Turkey too?

the Taj Mahal is also symmetrical (or however its spelt)

"naj" wrote:

all i can say tiz a beautiful palace....wouldnt mind visiting such a beauty!

shah jahan was an emperor, he could make these grand gestures to show he loved his queen, what can we mere normal people do?

I cant build a palace for my wife, not fair.

Ya ALLAH Madad.
Haq Chaar Yaar

"Constantine" wrote:
"Med" wrote:
I dunno. Mughal history is literally littered with family feuding and family struggles for power.

Even Aurangzeb Alamgir, the great saint Emperor, imprisoned his heretic father and had to deal with his pampered brothers.

Isn't that what happened in Turkey too?

I cant say bruv, I knw virtually nothing abt the uthmani dynasty.

Ya ALLAH Madad.
Haq Chaar Yaar

"Med" wrote:
shah jahan was an emperor, he could make these grand gestures to show he loved his queen, what can we mere normal people do?

I cant build a palace for my wife, not fair.

I used to be an Emperor ~ it was no fun, I had to step aside because my subjects tried to overthrow me.

Trust me it's way better being a commoner

"Med" wrote:
"naj" wrote:

all i can say tiz a beautiful palace....wouldnt mind visiting such a beauty!

shah jahan was an emperor, he could make these grand gestures to show he loved his queen, what can we mere normal people do?

I cant build a palace for my wife, not fair.

hmmmmm intention does the job...LET her know even if u dnt mean it lol

"Constantine" wrote:
"Med" wrote:
shah jahan was an emperor, he could make these grand gestures to show he loved his queen, what can we mere normal people do?

I cant build a palace for my wife, not fair.

I used to be an Emperor ~ it was no fun, I had to step aside because my subjects tried to overthrow me.

Trust me it's way better being a commoner

lol, yeh the most a commoner can do is buy her a semidetached house in a leafy suburb. Thats pathetic, compared to taj mahal.

Ya ALLAH Madad.
Haq Chaar Yaar

"Med" wrote:
lol, yeh the most a commoner can do is buy her a semidetached house in a leafy suburb. Thats pathetic, compared to taj mahal.

lol you'd be surprised how far "I love you" can take you.

Besides girls are sentimental creatures - the perfect memory is sometimes greater than any monument to them.

You could spend weeks working on some grand display and she'll forget it in a year, and while you are sulking she'll crack a smile and ask if you remember the time you rented a hotel room just for her, left her favorite book and dinner and then left her alone so she could have a break from you and the rest of the world for a day or so.

At which point in time you bash your head against the door because project 1 costed comparatively way too much money and was a total waste of time.

Honestly if you look at the story of the Emperor he built her this grand mausoleum, but I think if she lived she would have been more impressed had he kept [i]all[/i] his promises to her.

Any any man, Emperor or commoner can do that

"Constantine" wrote:
"Med" wrote:
lol, yeh the most a commoner can do is buy her a semidetached house in a leafy suburb. Thats pathetic, compared to taj mahal.

lol you'd be surprised how far "I love you" can take you.

Besides girls are sentimental creatures - the perfect memory is sometimes greater than any monument to them.

You could spend weeks working on some grand display and she'll forget it in a year, and while you are sulking she'll crack a smile and ask if you remember the time you rented a hotel room just for her, left her favorite book and dinner and then left her alone so she could have a break from you and the rest of the world for a day or so.

At which point in time you bash your head against the door because project 1 costed comparatively way too much money and was a total waste of time.

Honestly if you look at the story of the Emperor he built her this grand mausoleum, but I think if she lived she would have been more impressed had he kept [i]all[/i] his promises to her.

Any any man, Emperor or commoner can do that

hmmm some wise words.

But what if she never points out that u did such and such a thing, and it was soo great? then means u aint doing it right innit?

Ya ALLAH Madad.
Haq Chaar Yaar

"Med" wrote:
hmmm some wise words.

But what if she never points out that u did such and such a thing, and it was soo great? then means u aint doing it right innit?

lol it probably (and unfortunately) means she didn't care.

That's okay try again, if youre married you have a lifetime of opportunities to make her happy and show her you love her.

And if you married her because you love her that's precisely what you will enjoy doing.

[b]Can we stop turning every thread into one that discusses love, or Med's future wife. Any further posts that are off-topic will be deleted ---- NewModOnTheBlock[/b]

Ahhh new mod... off topic is my middle name (just ask the old mods).

It's not so much intention... its just what I do. ~ But i'll give you a firm "i'll try"

I think all this going through effort to impress women is really a negative thing.

Its all a result of feminist influence in my opinion. The idea that it might be a woman's fault that a marriage experiences problems is never considered. Its always a mans fault for not paying enough attention to his wife.

valid point

The Lover is ever drunk with love;
He is free, he is mad,
He dances with ecstasy and delight.

Caught by our own thoughts,
We worry about every little thing,
But once we get drunk on that love,
Whatever will be, will be.

ɐɥɐɥ

"salaf" wrote:
I think all this going through effort to impress women is really a negative thing.

Its all a result of feminist influence in my opinion. The idea that it might be a woman's fault that a marriage experiences problems is never considered. Its always a mans fault for not paying enough attention to his wife.

why, what have you done now?

:twisted:

It takes two to tango. We know that.

"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.

"Med" wrote:
"naj" wrote:

all i can say tiz a beautiful palace....wouldnt mind visiting such a beauty!

shah jahan was an emperor, he could make these grand gestures to show he loved his queen, what can we mere normal people do?

I cant build a palace for my wife, not fair.

You need a palatial symbol of eyternal love? gimme a shout i love making things,

just ask Hayder about the time I stayed up with while he was on the revival so i got bored and made my knig mask entirely out of masking tape a newspaper,

the best bit was next morning when hois brother looked at me quizzically and said did you wake me up for Fajr with..'something' on your face? Lol

Gentleness and kindness were never a part of anything except that it made it beautiful, and harshness was never a part of anything except that it made it ugly.

Through cheating, stealing, and lying, one may get required results but finally one becomes

Can you make med a giant palatial symbol of his love entirely out of newspaper and masking tape?!

THAT's a symbol of eternal devotion right there.

I would [b]love[/b] to.

Gentleness and kindness were never a part of anything except that it made it beautiful, and harshness was never a part of anything except that it made it ugly.

Through cheating, stealing, and lying, one may get required results but finally one becomes

Salam

Taj Mahal at Agra, India. Nearly 400 years old.

UN had offically declared it the most beautiful building on Earth.

Its only a tomb.

Sign of a man going mad over a woman.

Omrow

"salaf" wrote:
I think all this going through effort to impress women is really a negative thing.

Its all a result of feminist influence in my opinion. The idea that it might be a woman's fault that a marriage experiences problems is never considered. Its always a mans fault for not paying enough attention to his wife.

I agree.

There's many simpler ways to express ones love. There’s no need to go OTT…

Its the simple, genuine things that hold more weight in my eyes.

..However, I don't agree with the second point you've raised. I don't think the man is always blamed when the marraige fails....in many cases the man IS to blame when the marriage fails.

"MuslimSister" wrote:
in many cases the man IS to blame when the marriage fails.

and in many cases the woman IS to blame when the marriage fails.

Ya ALLAH Madad.
Haq Chaar Yaar

and in some cases there were three in the marriage...

the man, the woman, and the media. or in our culture, nosy relatives.

"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.

who cares who's to blame

at diff times-diff people are to blame

here we're discussing how lame it is to build a palace to express ur love :roll:

"MuslimSisLilSis" wrote:

here we're discussing how lame it is to build a palace to express ur love :roll:

actually i dont think its lame...i understand why this person would go to such an extent to do that.

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