Those in primary schools are probably too young to cope with these long fasts, so I don't see much of an issue over this.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
For me, this isn't a question about allowing children to fast in schools or not. This is more about schools controlling/deciding/DICTATING what Muslim children can and cannot do and eliminating the factor of choice. That's where the issue lies.
As the majority of us know, reaching puberty obligates fasting and if a child who is in primary school has reached puberty, then they should be fasting and will be held accountable for not doing so. This is upon the CHILD. For children who haven't hit puberty, they should have a choice of whether they want to fast or not during the weekdays.
Simply put, I don't think schools should have a say in this matter unless they feel that by fasting, a child might die or become severly malnourished.
What a joke! ......
I started to fast since before i could remember I didn't even know why i was fasting because i was so young by the time i was five years of age i was having competitions with my uncle's to see who could keep the most fasts this year.
My parents never asked me to keep a fast as a kid and the fact was if the fast ever got to much for us we just break it and start again the next day. The whole culture and tradition of this month the month of Ramadan just gave you a buzz when your a little kid who's been running around in the heat all day and your lips are dry as anything you come home five minutes before the iftari just in time to open your fast and in front of you got all the food and fizzy pop and then it's time to open your fast when you open it there's no way of describing that buzz!..
It's a natural high th...e closest feeling must be to that of taking Crystal meth or though I can't say for sure because I've never tried Crystal meth but i think I've illustrated my point. ...Ramadan has been a big part of my childhood I wouldn't change that part my life for anything it was one of the best parts of my life!
By the time i got high school I was keeping more fasts than kid's who were older than me. ....
30 years later my kids have the same passion without me even asking or telling them to fast my oldest son hasn't missed a obligatory fast since the age of 7 Alhamdulillah and my son Abdul Ghany is already excited for Ramadan I told him you only keeping fasts on the weekends this year he was so upset about it.When I look at policies of this retarded government i feel like they are robbing not just my kids but this whole nation they robbing children's childhoods all because of stupid Islamophobia! ..
Tell me what's fasting got to do with foreign policy?...
In reality all this means is when we go in and say our kid's want to keep a fast it gives the teachers an excuse to report our kid's on suspicion or the possibility that may be being "Radicalised "
Muslim have their children under the age of puberty fast half a day or a few hours, but kids will and try to fast all day, fasting does not cause harm to your body their a more then one study on how fasting is good for your body and helps with some illness. Children don't pass out from fasting or even Adults unless they are in heat all day or tough physical activity, I hope that the school has cooling then it will be no harm on the child. Islamically, a person isn't even obligated to fast unless they've hit puberty (and even then, a person doesn't fast if they're menstruating, pregnant, breastfeeding, or physically unable to (i.e. diabetic, ill, etc.)) Most of the time parents don't make their children fast; rather, children see the people around them fasting, and want to take part in it too. Many parents actually discourage young children from fasting
Non-Muslim teachers have no right to tell Muslim children what to do during the month of Ramadan. It is the responsibility of their parents to decide about their children. It is a crime against humanity to send Muslim children to state or church schools with non-Muslim teachers. There should be a positive co-relation between home and school, otherwise, the child would be lost in Western Jungle.
A Muslim child needs a state funded Muslim school with Muslim teachers as role models during his/her developmental period. There is no place for a non-Muslim child or a teacher in a Muslim school. I am willing to bet there are lots of Brits who have jumped through hoops to get their children into high performing Catholic or C of E schools yet claim to be atheist. I am also willing to bet they would be the first to complain if their children were offered a place at a school with a high proportion of Muslim children. Faith schools are popular with families across denominations and none. If there was a 'don't like' message they would want a place. The whole problem with the "Trojan Horse" schools was that they were providing the education that parents wanted. Speaking to a head of one of the inspected schools it turns out that one of the failed six schools failed because of negative answers given by pupils. The following question was crucial. " Have you been told that it is morally ok for lesbians and gay men to have same sex relationships?" If pupils answered in the negative this was taken as evidence that the school had not taught tolerance and therefore didn't safeguard against extremist views. I heard a parent of a child at one of the Birmingham schools on News night say something like "as 90% of the children here are Muslim, the school should cater for their needs as Muslims".
Muslim children in state schools with non-Muslim teachers are not in a position to develop positive self-confidence and self-esteem. Muslim children need state funded Muslim schools with Muslim teachers as role models during their developmental periods. There is no place for a non-Muslim child or a teacher in a Muslim school.
Muslim community would like to protect their children from the evils of the western society. You better educate your children and let Muslim community educate their children according the needs and demands of the parents.
Muslim schools teach Muslim children that sex outside marriage is a sin. Homosexuality is also a sin. Sex before marriage and homosexuality are western values and Muslims are not supposed to adopt them.
British values, which are said to include respect for legally protected characteristics such as homosexuality, religion, gender change, disability, race and marital status. what a warping of British values, the British values I was taught are respect for the institution of marriage, freedom of religious pursuit, freedom of speech, respect for the monarch. respect for others.
Indiscipline, incivility, binge drinking, drug addiction, gun and knife crimes, teenage pregnancies and abortion are part and parcel of British schooling. These are the reasons why majority of Muslim parents would like to send their children to Muslim schools with Muslim teachers as role models during their developmental periods. Only less than 5% attend Muslim schools and more than 95% keep on attending state and church schools to be mis-educated and de-educated by non-Muslim monolingual teachers.
The British establishment is wrong in thinking that Imams are to blame for extremism. Imams are not solution to the problem for extremism. Extremism is nothing to do with Imams. Extremism is not created from abroad, it is coming from within. Britain fails to help Muslim communities feel part of British society. Race trouble is being predicted by the Daily Express, because of an ethnic boom in UK major cities. Muslim communities need imams for the solutions of their needs and demands in their own native languages. Muslim parents would like to see their children well versed in Standard English and to go for higher studies and research to serve humanity. The fact is that majority of Muslim children leave schools with low grades because monolingual teachers are not capable to teach Standard English to bilingual Muslim children.
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