Aid to Gaza

With the increasing tensions in the middle East and an increase in Israeli military activity. It is unlikely that the international community will break the blockade of Gaza. What is likely, is the increased aid from mainstream NGO's and the UN to the people of Gaza.

I was wondering what this forum's thoughts were for sending aid to Gaza through an already established and respected charity instead of handing aid over to Hamas.

Hamas has declared that it is their mission to kill all Jews, not just Israelis! It has taken the book "Protocols of the Elders of Zion" and endorsed it within their charter, an anti-Semitic fabrication produced by Christian and czarist extremists and adopted by the Nazis to support their agenda.

So, would you provide food and medicane to such an organisation, helping to augment their power. Or would you send this aid to another group that is not racist or rooted in extremist ideology?

Does anyone actually hand aid over to Hamas?

I doubt that is the case really...

what is important is helping the people of Gaza. The exact means to be used are less important - but if cutting out Hamas means that the people are not helped, then I will be against that.

As for Hamas's charter requiring the death of all Jews, 1) I will need a link to the charter proving that, 2) hamas did offer "multi-year peace" in order for the blockade to be lifted. the offer was rejected. I think Hamas can be flexible in their demands if they are given a big enough carrot.

"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.

Even then, Hamas is more than "quick lob something over the wall" - the resistance is only one aspect of the movement.

Classing it all as one is what allowed Israel to blow up public/official buildings, police stations etc.

If you can get the aid to Gaza whilst bypassing Hamas, then do it. If not, Hamas should not be considered a deal breaker. It is/was the officially elected representative of the people.

"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.

You wrote:

As for Hamas's charter requiring the death of all Jews, 1) I will need a link to the charter proving that, 2) hamas did offer "multi-year peace" in order for the blockade to be lifted. the offer was rejected. I think Hamas can be flexible in their demands if they are given a big enough carrot.

This contains the following...

Article 7 of the Hamas Covenant provides the following quotation, attributed to Mohammed:

"The Day of Judgement will not come about until Moslems fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Moslems, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only the Gharkad tree, (evidently a certain kind of tree) would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews."

You wrote:

If you can get the aid to Gaza whilst bypassing Hamas, then do it. If not, Hamas should not be considered a deal breaker. It is/was the officially elected representative of the people.

My point is that by providing Aid to Hamas then we strengthen their support as the people think this aid was provided to them from Hamas, whereas the majority of the World regard Hamas with disdain and would rather deal with people not so keen to kill innocent Women and Children.

On the other hadn the Hamas PM Isma'il Haniyeh is on record saying that Hamas would accept the 1967 borders:

The Hamas leader in Gaza, Ismail Haniyeh, said on Saturday his government was willing to accept a Palestinian state within the 1967 borders.

The Hamas leader spoke at a meeting with 11 European parliamentarians who sailed from Cyprus to the Gaza Strip to protest Israel's naval blockade of the territory. Haniyeh told his guests Israel rejected his initiative.

Clare Short, who served in the cabinet of former British prime minister Tony Blair, asked Haniyeh to repeat his offer. He said the Hamas government had agreed to accept a Palestinian state that followed the 1967 borders and to offer Israel a long-term hudna, or truce, if Israel recognized the Palestinians' national rights.

The recorded hadith quoted there is one of events after the arrival of the Mahdi, and return of Prophet Isa (ra) where the other religions' followers would have converted to Islam once confronted with the truth. Only the obstinate war mongers would be left.

(another explanation offered is that that will not be a global war and does not have global context - instead of mentioning Muslims Vs someone, it specifically mentions arabs vs someone.)

"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.