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awlia wrote:
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@Awlia - the Prophet Sallallahu Alaihi Wa Sallam (Peace and Blessings be upon him) did not do it every night, as as for it being an innovation or not, I would leave that decision to hadhrat Umar (ra) himself, who did think it was one.

whether he did it every night or not, theirs nothing wrong with doing it every night is it, muhammad SAW didnt always perform the zuhr nafal, but if a person was to do so theirs nothing wrong with that is it.

you're the one that is arguing elsewhere that going and doing things not exactly like the Prophet Sallallahu Alaihi Wa Sallam (Peace and Blessings be upon him) did, or doing it more is a bid'ah, not me.

"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.

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awlia wrote:

The type of innovation that is haram is innovation in religion, which sufis do, like milad un nabi, the huwa huwa thing and other.

in your huwa thing you quoted that there was no harm in it, thus it obviously cannot be haraam, proven by YOUR OWN POST.

As for mawlid, Shaykh ibn taymiyyah said there is no harm in it, so it also cannot be haraam, if he did not think there was any harm/sin in it.

(@ everyone-including-me: please can we debate in other topics and not this one? this one is just for welcoming people)

when did i say their is no harm in doing huwa huwa, i said their is no harm in doing normal dhikr like saying subhanallah 33 times, but huwa huw is haram as its a innovation,a action not done by muhammad SAW or his sahabas or nayone.

as fr miladun nabi, even he ibn tamiyah concluded in hisbook saying its a incorrect ijtihad ad he doesnt agree with it.

awlia wrote:

when did i say their is no harm in doing huwa huwa, i said their is no harm in doing normal dhikr like saying subhanallah 33 times, but huwa huw is haram as its a innovation,a action not done by muhammad SAW or his sahabas or nayone.

as fr miladun nabi, even he ibn tamiyah concluded in hisbook saying its a incorrect ijtihad ad he doesnt agree with it.

- it is quoting from your post. You have ignored responding to that post - which I assume is by accident?

"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.

ive done my thing as usual, given the correct evidence, and had tocorrect your false fabrication as usual

you have? where? I can't see anything...

ibn taymiyyah may have said it was incorrect ijtihad, but he did not say it was wrong and bad or haraam, did he? He said there was no benefit, and no harm.

"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.

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you have? where? I can't see anything...

ibn taymiyyah may have said it was incorrect ijtihad, but he did not say it was wrong and bad or haraam, did he? He said there was no benefit, and no harm.

incorrect itjihaad, meaning it was wrong, disagreed with milad un nabi, meaning he rejected it, believed it was wrong.

And if ibn tamiyyah didnt say things directly about it, thousands of other shcoalrs of HIS time, before him after him clearly said it was haram, muhammad SAW hadith clearly shows its haram, which is the biggest evidence of them all.

awlia wrote:
...muhammad SAW hadith clearly shows its haram, which is the biggest evidence of them all.

Please carry this on , as I am interested in reading these ahadith.

"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.

asalamualaikum

this is awlia, back again, this time im not sure how long i'll be here, but while im here i'll destroy that shia here, time tp expose that fake thing that ali RA personally called dumb blind and deaf.

Welcome back.

No need to "destroy" him (or anyone else) - just honest discussion should be enough to prove your point. That way you also use hikmah.

"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.

is that Medieval?

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Welcome aboard.

No its not - people move on. Sometimes ghosts are just shadows.

"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.

Just a suggestion
maybe there should be a tab (like a section) where people can read a mini bio of each other, because half way through this it became a discussion which isn't so great in a 'hello new members' post =S

Jihad of the Nafs (The Struggle of the Soul)

Just a suggestion
maybe there should be a tab (like a section) where people can read a mini bio of each other, because half way through this it became a discussion which isn't so great in a 'hello new members' post =S

Jihad of the Nafs (The Struggle of the Soul)

Truth's_Razors wrote:
Just a suggestion
maybe there should be a tab (like a section) where people can read a mini bio of each other, because half way through this it became a discussion which isn't so great in a 'hello new members' post =S

You can read other people's bio - if they've chosen to write one. I was gna edit mine the other day when i was bored but then i thought forget it lol.

If you click on the username it should come up on their "profile page" where they may have written a little bit about themselves

a good example :

"How many people find fault in what they're reading and the fault is in their own understanding" Al Mutanabbi

hows it going my dear sufi brothers and sisters, your beloved and favourtie member awlia here long time no see, what happend here its not as active as it was when i was here.

Anyway not here to start anything just wanna see how my dear brothers and sisters here are doing, brother "you" no contact from you despite all the discussion we went through which i always won (no offence) just kidding, anyway hows things here not much seems to be going on here, but good to see/here from you again.

asalamualaikum

Hy Awlia good to see you back....hmm i guess its not as active mybe,lol a few new topics might change that tho Wink lol just kiddin,,

Suhail wrote:
Hy Awlia good to see you back....hmm i guess its not as active mybe,lol a few new topics might change that tho Wink lol just kiddin,,

hahaha nope no more new topics, maybe one or two, not ones that will have any attacks or anyhting but i'll see what i can come up with

hudhafah wrote:
which i always won (no offence)

victory is in the eye of the beholder (I didn't think you had any points that stood up to scrutiny - and I did not even go out of my way to challenge them, just simple things).

This time I hope you are here to take part as a member of the community and not simply here on a crusade - the latter is not conducive to sight seeing or seeing what people really think.

"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.

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hudhafah wrote:
which i always won (no offence)

victory is in the eye of the beholder (I didn't think you had any points that stood up to scrutiny - and I did not even go out of my way to challenge them, just simple things).

This time I hope you are here to take part as a member of the community and not simply here on a crusade - the latter is not conducive to sight seeing or seeing what people really think.

if we get the third party in to judge we know who theyll pick i had both evidence and conclusion but lets forget that, as i said just here to check how things are going on here not for another arguement if i was then i wouldve attacked the shia not that i will i'll get this fact straight.

[actually, I had both evidence and conclusion on my side (which was evidenced by the fact you started to attack the very people who were trying to help or back you up).]

But as you say, bygones be bygones.

"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.

i heard that last quote somewhere

Salaam, new member here! (that's what this thread is here for right...lol...i totally feel like im intruding/interrupting something! :oops: )

So. Yeah. Intro-ing me. I'm a 22year old student from Wales, currently in my final year of uni doing Religious Studies and Philosophy, due to be done and dusted in less than a month..eek!

I've only ever read one issue of the revival magazine, which I think had a drugs article and related picture shown on the cover, and my sister called it 'stoned magazine' for the longest time (lol). I think I was looking up Muslim youth magazines for research one time, and that's how I came accross the site a while back, I read a thread about eastenders and syed and whatnot, and never came back. Ok,erm, it's not how it sounds. I just didnt bother to come back, but intended to, forgot about it for a while...and finally returned to join :D.

So research, what research?! Basically I'm doing my dissertation on British Asian Muslims, and how dual cultural heritages contribute to one's identity and practice of Islam, and cultural conflicts between generations, generally about being British and Asian and Muslim...etc. So I figured I could roam the forums, find any discussions (if there are already threads on the topic, pointers are more than welcome :)), start some discussions...and stuff.
As it stands, I like to waste my time on forums and reading things online rather than actually doing my work (procrastinator extrordinaire, unfortunately :()

Yeh, so, uh. sorry for rambling. That's how I roll.

Oh and Pepsi, cola.....neither (*gasp*). H2o man, original classic.
Favorite icecream- Ben and Jerry's Choc Chip Brownie ice-cream. one of the most beautiful substances on the planet.
Nutter/moody/other balanced one that i forgot:....eh...semi normal, bit random?

So....see you around...? Smile
Wasalaam
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erm...as you were...

Asalaamu Alaikum Everyone,

Im 'MyDeenThenMyLife' From West Yorkshire. Im a student at University. The first time I cam across Revival was when I picked up a copy of Revival Magazine at the Prayer Room at my University. Really liked it!!!

May Allah (swt) bless you all and may we benefit from each other Ameen.

JazakAllah Khair

Welcome, Salaams and all that stuff.

Make yourself at home - write blogs, take part in forum topic or comment on articles among other things.

And more importantly, who would win in a fight - a Jaffa cake or a jammy dodger?

"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.

oo i never saw this forum when i first started Sad lol !

I VOTE JAFFA CAKE.

 

jammy dodgers will definatly win...jaffa's are too weak...and chocolatey...

Is it true? Is it kind? Is it necessary?

Jammy Dodgers for President!

"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.

YES!!!!

Is it true? Is it kind? Is it necessary?

Shah wrote:
Salaam, new member here! (that's what this thread is here for right...lol...i totally feel like im intruding/interrupting something! :oops: )

So. Yeah. Intro-ing me. I'm a 22year old student from Wales, currently in my final year of uni doing Religious Studies and Philosophy, due to be done and dusted in less than a month..eek!

I've only ever read one issue of the revival magazine, which I think had a drugs article and related picture shown on the cover, and my sister called it 'stoned magazine' for the longest time (lol). I think I was looking up Muslim youth magazines for research one time, and that's how I came accross the site a while back, I read a thread about eastenders and syed and whatnot, and never came back. Ok,erm, it's not how it sounds. I just didnt bother to come back, but intended to, forgot about it for a while...and finally returned to join :D.

So research, what research?! Basically I'm doing my dissertation on British Asian Muslims, and how dual cultural heritages contribute to one's identity and practice of Islam, and cultural conflicts between generations, generally about being British and Asian and Muslim...etc. So I figured I could roam the forums, find any discussions (if there are already threads on the topic, pointers are more than welcome :)), start some discussions...and stuff.
As it stands, I like to waste my time on forums and reading things online rather than actually doing my work (procrastinator extrordinaire, unfortunately :()

Yeh, so, uh. sorry for rambling. That's how I roll.

Oh and Pepsi, cola.....neither (*gasp*). H2o man, original classic.
Favorite icecream- Ben and Jerry's Choc Chip Brownie ice-cream. one of the most beautiful substances on the planet.
Nutter/moody/other balanced one that i forgot:....eh...semi normal, bit random?

So....see you around...? Smile
Wasalaam
..................................
erm...as you were...

Smile

welcome to all the newbies

"How many people find fault in what they're reading and the fault is in their own understanding" Al Mutanabbi

Hi I'm Mary Smith always new member of this site
I'm completed graduation. I've only ever issue of revival magzine.and reserch in how dual cultural heritages contribute to one's identity and practice of Islam.

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