Mohamed Ali Harrath, Islam Channel

Hardtalk, a 30 minute interview program by the BBC, interviews Mohamed Ali Harrath, Islam Channel chief.

As someone who has been looking closely at Islam, it is quite clear that he is lying throughout. The interviewer, who to be fair must have to cover an awful lot of topics, does not know enough about Islam to do a good job.

Related news story about him being arrested at the end of January on terror charges.

This is the guy who claims to reach 2m Muslims in the UK. Not a power for moderation huh?

I don't want the channel, so I cannot comment on it.

Besides, since when do businesses need to be representative?

I will watch that show now to see what he says.

"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.

Tread Softly wrote:
Related news story about him being arrested at the end of January on terror charges.

I think it is exceedingly easy for Muslims especially to be held under anti terror legislation in the UK, so this means nothing really.

"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.

Just to add - first few words of the show are "integration or separation".

I find that a false dichotomy. I think there is a limit to how far integration should go.

Multiculturalism requires there to be incomplete integration. We are not the borg.

"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.

You wrote:
I think it is exceedingly easy for Muslims especially to be held under anti terror legislation in the UK, so this means nothing really.

I think you'll find there's a bit more to it.

I think any Sharia takeover would get violent, so the perpetrators can claim violent jihaad rules and grab war booty....all those juicy just-menstruating 10 year old girls to be taken as slaves huh? If you think that remark is out of context then see what this guy was planning in Tunisia.

So here we have an urbane mild mannered Muslim, feted by politicians etc, allowed to broadcast, adviser to the police, and......he wants to implement Sharia in a country by force. What an horrific example to shake middle England out of their sleep.

In your mind do Tunisians have the right to take part in the politics in their own country?

rrath insists that the organisation was a non-violent political party set up to oppose what he regarded as Tunisia’s one-party rule.

Do you disagree with the military junta in Burma? Do the peop-le there have a right to oppose it?

"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.

Of course, we shall see what the Courts find out. He may be innocent.

Best way.

EDIT - the magistrate has dismissed the charges according to a link in the aggregator.

"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.

He is clearly being disingenuous in the interview though, for instance, speaking as if 'muslimahs not being allowed out of their house without their husband's permission' was a marginal looney belief, rather than a widespread belief.

I have to say a few times he was made to quirm in that interview.

More, he could have been more eloquent as some answers were superficial at best.

But none of that showed any malice to me.

"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.

Tread Softly wrote:
He is clearly being disingenuous in the interview though, for instance, speaking as if 'muslimahs not being allowed out of their house without their husband's permission' was a marginal looney belief, rather than a widespread belief.

oh yes that. and the other time he played ignorant on something (I don't remember what). It came off extremely poorly.

The thing not mentioned in the interview (mainly because it would have come across poorly tooo) was probably one of production values. The channel would not have as high production values as mainstream/big media companies.

That can allow for all sorts of things to happen and if any of the presenteers are also on a voluntary basis, learning on the job, there can be issues, especialy when matters are not dealt with proiperly and with enough detail to make sure people get a proper understanding.

Disclaimer: SInce I do not watch the channel, I cannot say that the channel is not evil. I just doubt it is. I also doubt the viewing figures. way way way too inflated - they would require almost all Muslims in the UK to have sky and watch the channel. Close to 100% coverage.

"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.

ive watched islam channel specially in early days with yvonne ridley slot. is that the same channel ur on about?

how is this an evil or dangerous channel?

and whats this nonsense about muslimahs only being allowed to leave home or not?

“O my people! Truly, this life of the world is nothing but a (quick passing) enjoyment, and verily, the hereafter that is the home that will remain forever.” [Ghafir : 39]

Hajjar wrote:
how is this an evil or dangerous channel?

If you meant me - I was just covering for the fact that I was defending a channel and a person that I have never watched.

"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.

no you i'm referring to tread softly i want to know how it is such an abhorrent channel.

“O my people! Truly, this life of the world is nothing but a (quick passing) enjoyment, and verily, the hereafter that is the home that will remain forever.” [Ghafir : 39]

Hi Hajjar, I have no idea what the questions in your last two posts refer to, I think you need to swot up on your reading comprehension.

I get the feeling you have not even watched the program I provided a link to: where do I say anything about the channel let alone that it is evil, dangerous or abhorrent?

Maybe before posting you should read the original post and click the links, it usually helps.

One other thing is one of absolutes and timelines.

There was a time where (I hear) Anwar Awlaki was not nutty - he was warning against extremism etc. (I also hear he was mostly ignored at the time). Then he was incarcerated in some Yemeni prison, after which his sermons went down a spiral.

It was only recently that he supported such as those failed plane bombings.

Even if the TV channel had promoted him at some point (which he says they didn't), then that could still have valid reasons.

(I had only heard of anwar Awlaki in the past year, where I found it amusing that he looked like "the jewel" in jewel of the nile. [Should I feel emarrased for having seen that?])

Since the actual "promotion" was an external advert for some book store which had him as one of the people they sell media of, I doubt that can be directly linked to the output of Islam Channel.

I would argue that some of his answers were not fluent etc due to him not being fluent/poetical. Some people have more style than others. Other bits however... maybe he was flustered.

"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.

maybe i will if you show some basic manners tread softly whats with your attitude, its pretty abhorrent

“O my people! Truly, this life of the world is nothing but a (quick passing) enjoyment, and verily, the hereafter that is the home that will remain forever.” [Ghafir : 39]